Don't worry, it isn't the vaccine but it's STROKE SEASON!

https://twitter.com/thevivafrei/status/1616825564802826241?s=20&t=u-b7JbHVzNu90Ymi1pKGLA

CBC Canada just reminding you that even though you, your physician, and all your friends and family never noticed it before, there's a STROKE season that just so happens to occur right after you've had the flu (and about four COVID vaccine shots.)

Don't worry too much though. The observations are merely morning talk show news and anecdotal at this point.

Why I'm old enough to remember when Regis and Kathy Lee would.....wait... um... stroke season?

Serious at this point can you not figure out WTF is going on people. How many happy go lucky gaslighting urgent care physicians giving you the "aw shucks, bet you didn't know this..." will it take before you start questioning the narratives out there being put out by various governments, Big Pharma and other major corporate players.

If not don't worry too much but please stay tuned because...aw shucks, perhaps you didn't remember it but right after stroke season comes summertime you suddenly died from a heart attack season! It's good clean family friendly fun!

 

What I have figured out is you think you are a genius educating the masses with your gift of inference not to mention have a preconceived bias that Covid 19 vaccines are causing an increase in strokes are a dangerous conspiracy forced on us by big Pharma and the entire medical community is in on it except for this one physician interviewed who is still so phacking stupid he can't co-relate the vaccine to the virus.

Are you done?

1. The fact that you were and remain ignorant to the connection between flu and stroke does not mean it did not exist before we were taking Covid 19 vaccines.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...s,related regardless of vaccine effectiveness.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5899905/

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20190130/flu-may-raise-chance-of-stroke-neck-artery-tears

2. Your ignore as to the above plus your preconceived bias that leads you to see conspiracies against vaccines omits that in fact flu vaccines reduce the risk of stroke and this was known before Covid 19 as well:

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/...minute-flu-vaccine-may-reduce-risk-of-stroke/

https://cumming.ucalgary.ca/news/flu-vaccine-lowers-risk-stroke-research-shows

https://www.heartandstroke.ca/articles/why-you-need-a-flu-shot

Lets end this latest false thread now. The fact that you were not aware the flu raises the exposure rate to strokes does not mean it never was explained to anyone or known prior to Covid 19 vaccines.

It has had a well known connection for many years and the fact you were ignorant of it does not mean it did not exist. The fact you don't remember hearing it on Regis and Cathy Lee does not mean the connection was not known or explained by the medical community long before Covid 19 and continues to be explained.

You deliberately repeat a twitter misrepresenting what a doctor was doing. That doctor never discussed strokes being related to flu only after Covid 19 vaccines started being used. So for you to claim it does is bullshit.

Next basic research would tell you why the flu, Covid 19 and countless other viruses not to mention bacteria and fungi all prevalent in your world and you are unaware of can when you are exposed to them raise the risk of stroke or other cardio-vascular reactions.

The fact you rely on Cathy Lee and Regis for your understanding of disease and the basis as your reference point to determine where fact commences speaks for itself in just how ignorant your statement is not to mention the pretense for starting this thread to spread more false horse sheeyat about Covid 19 vaccines.

What you have shown is like many your ignorance comes from the fact you live in a fantasy world based on what you watch on t.v.

 

You've figured out nothing but you claim the very unscientific ability to read minds. So now you will engage in a couple very bad forms of reasoning. You will construct both a false equivalency and engage in strawman reasoning.

Here's the point that you don't care to address in your false equivalency. When you are older your risk of dying or harm is dramatically higher for everything. Just even getting the flu will make 50-60k+ people die a year.

Yet no one in the past or present has declared "it's flu dying season".

The person making the claim about "not knowing it's stroke season" wasn't me. It an urgent care doctor put as an authority to speak on the matter by CBC News. He declares outright that he didn't know about it UNTIL LAST YEAR.

None of those are mRNA vaccines. No one has started a thread saying not to get the flu vaccine. No one has said the flu vaccine will give you a stroke, heart attack or kill you. This is your strawman argument.

We are not talking about flu vaccines. Have a nice day with that false equivalency and strawman.

The person it was not explained to is the CBC News Source Urgent Care Doctor who is making this recent "stroke season" revelation known to the general public.

Your false equivalency is fixated on flu vaccines, the general detrimental effects of the flu, claiming to have I have denied having that knowledge or that it exists and using that foundation is a basis to refuse to address the fact that the Canadian government is now talking "Stroke Season" as a regular and valid thing that doctors only became aware of in the last two years.

The doctor in question in the clip works in urgent care and states that he has for long enough to be aware of and familiar with prior trends. He has watched the flu, flu shots, and the minuscule number of associated strokes come through his hospital for years.

The doctor specifically mentions that when speaking among other doctors that they were seeing a lot more strokes than usual.

His direct words are not misconstrued in any fashion. He declares that anecdotally he and his fellow doctors are "seeing a lot more strokes than usual".

A lot more than usual. All the false equivalencies you are trying to deflect with have been around for ages. Flu viruses are not a new thing. The flu itself is not a new thing. Bacteria and fungi are not new things.

The comment about Kathy Lee and Regis was pure sarcasm. It was teasing about how we are primed for certain information via shows like this one. People with good critical thinking don't even watch the idiot box for information. The sheep and idiots watch their morning talk shows and "aw shucks" doctors come on and talk causally about "stroke season" so their mind will have a preformed conclusion rather than questioning what is happening.

Enjoy your mind reading. Please do not cry to hard over how badly you were shut down and slammed in this response. Also try not to stroke out. I mean it is stroke season right? All that mind reading might raise your blood pressure. It's best to avoid doing that in the future so you don't die suddenly.

 

Jesus, these brain dead conspiracy theories are still fashionable among the fringe? Really?

 

Government is God and the government backed doctors and scientists are the high priest and the vaccine is the sacrament.

This vaccine cult is as much if not more of a cult as any cult that has ever walked the planet.

 

I'm pretty you want to label them brain dead because you spent two years hoping they would die and it hasn't worked out for you.

In the meantime, don't stroke out. It's stroke season don't ya know!

 

I don't follow this braindead conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

I agree. All of this is very hard for you to follow.

 

Trumptman you stated: "

"You've figured out nothing but you claim the very unscientific ability to read minds."

No I do not read your mind I read your words and yes they are not just unscientific but exhibit falsehoods and ignorance.

Next you accused me of "false equivalency" when in fact I challenged your false inferences as to what the physician on the CBC interview actually stated.

Then you stated

"Here's the point that you don't care to address in your false equivalency. When you are older your risk of dying or harm is dramatically higher for everything. Just even getting the flu will make 50-60k+ people die a year."

I never made any false equivalency as to the above and it was clearly not the point you made and had you made it I would not have challenged it. However might I add it is trite to the point of blatantly obvious that when people get older they are more likely to die but thanks for sharing that. It is good you now realize you will die eventually if not from your ignorance your age.

Then you made this statement in response to my previous criticisms:

"Yet no one in the past or present has declared "it's flu dying season".

Who is no one? The fact you never read of the correlation between flus and other illnesses in relation to stroke prior to Covid 19 does not mean they were not known or discussed because the term "stroke season". Next the term flu season has been used for many years. The link between flu and stroke has been known long before Covid 19.

You assume because you did not know of this link until you were "triggered" by the physician in the CBC interview, the link between flu and stroke never existed because you never heard the expression "stroke season". You engage in classic Trumpism and that is to say because you are ignorant of something it does not exist until Donald tells you it exists.

Here is an example of this well known link discussed in 2011 to show how idiotic your inference is that there was no discussion let alone link between flu and stroke:

You deliberately misquoted the physician and stated:

"The person making the claim about "not knowing it's stroke season" wasn't me.

The expression "stroke season" (you referred to it erroneously above as flue season but I will not assume your confusion is from a stroke that would be a false inference) is not synonymos with their being no link between strokes and flu. That is a false inference because you read in a context and meaning the physician never stated but assume he meant and can't tell the difference between your assumption of what he meant with what he actually said. In fact you have contended that this and other physicians had no idea of the link between flu because they did not use the term" stroke season"- that's your inference. You made it to advance your false agenda which you have on many threads and in many responses that Covid 19 vaccines cause strokes and so should not be taken,.

You misrepresentation is blatantly shown in this response :He declares outright that he didn't know about it UNTIL LAST YEAR."

The words "until last year" are not relevant but your misinterpretation of the word "it" is. "It"in fact refers to the use of the term "stroke season" NOT the link between flu and stroke. You assume they mean one and the same.

You assumed he was referring to the link when that is not what he said.

Then you stated:

"None of those are mRNA vaccines."

Again you change the subject to deflect from your thread starter because you clearly have no idea how to defend your false inference. The subject you commenced which is absolutely false is that there was no link between flu and stroke before Covid 19 and so since its only now known it must be from Covid 19.

That is what you contended. Take ownership of that false narrative and stop trying to deflect from ut.

You also stated:

"No one has started a thread saying not to get the flu vaccine. No one has said the flu vaccine will give you a stroke, heart attack or kill you. This is your strawman argument."

No its not the basis of my challenges to your actual contentions at all. Next calling something a "strawman argument" on a debate forum is absurd. Everything on a debate forum is up to debate and challenge. Its the very purpose of such forums to have what you call strawman arguments. Simply labelling my challenge a "strawman argument" does not justify what you said as you are well aware, its simply a name calling deflection exercise because you do not know how to defend what you said.

You then stated:

"We are not talking about flu vaccines."

No I never did and you never did and I never claimed we were. Its you who now raise it. Next, you are not "we". Puffing yourself up to larger than who you are does not give you any more credibility.

Your attempt now to deny to deflect what you said to start yett another thread to misrepresent the Covid 19 vaccine and undermine its use speaks loudly so take your affected comment "Have a nice day with that false equivalency and strawman" comment and stop posing in feigned smugness and take direct responsibility for your false narrative.

You engaged in false inferences, i.e., you made and continue to make conclusions or opinions formed in the absence and in contradiction to known facts or evidence.

My comments have directly challenged your inference that there was no link between flu and stroke before you became aware of it and your attempt to imply its caused by the Covid 19 virus. You want to deny that agenda its a little late. Your repeated responses on this forum set the context for what you now say and that is to advance a Donald Trump anti authority script.

Had you presented two concepts and stated their values were the same, that would be an equivalency and if your calculation for determining the equivalency of values was defective I would have challenged the calculations to point out if I thought they did not add up to the same value.

You did not at any time compare to values as being the same so I had no reason to challenge that.

The fact you can't tell the difference between an equivalency and an inference should come as no surprise. It appears in addition to being ignorant about vaccines, the cause of strokes, the link between flu and stroke, you also have problems with basic algebra.



Let me make this clear as can be, the physician interviewed went on t.v. to make clear the link between flu and stroke to encourage people to understand that flu vaccines are important to take because they can reduce the risk of stroke. He did not say the flu vaccine or Covid 19 vaccines cause strokes and not to take them. He is a well known emergency physician who is known to try encourage people to be pro-active with vaccines so they do not get ill from something they could have helped prevent and you misappropriate what he said and actually says in Canada to advance your own agenda.

Next you stated:

"Your false equivalency is fixated on flu vaccines, the general detrimental effects of the flu, claiming to have I have denied having that knowledge or that it exists and using that foundation is a basis to refuse to address the fact that the Canadian government is now talking "Stroke Season" as a regular and valid thing that doctors only became aware of in the last two years."

I did not make a false equivalency. I challenged your false inference and again challenge your false inference that causes you to again misrepresent what I have challenged and the physician stated.

The fact that the term "Stroke Season: was not used as a term does not mean physicians like the one you misappropriate did not explain to their patients that the flu can be very serious for those with diabetes, cardio vascular or other vascular diseases or specific medical conditions and could lead to ischemic stoke.

Again to show the sheer ignorance of your inference the term stroke in relation to "season" was discussed long before Covid and your awareness of it, here again is proof so cease and desist claiming this physician did not know this or other physicians did not know about flu, stroke and seasonal rates and only became aware two years ago. THAT IS A BLATANT FALSEHOOD BASED ON YOU ASSUMING BECAUSE YOU WERE UNAWARE OF THE TERMINOLOGY BEING USED IT WAS NEVER USED. No trying to now cover your ass and use the words the terminology wasn't used as a "regular and valid thing" two years ago is BULLSHIT.

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/152/6/558/75898

You again falsely removed what the physician said out of context and I quote:

"The doctor specifically mentions that when speaking among other doctors that they were seeing a lot more strokes than usual."

He stated this in relation to the link between flu and stroke and one following the other something all physicians are and have been aware of.

You stated and I quote:

"His direct words are not misconstrued in any fashion. He declares that anecdotally he and his fellow doctors are "seeing a lot more strokes than usual".

Then practice what you preach stop misconstruing what he said and I have said. The fact that the rate of strokes rises in reaction and relation to flu season does NOT mean the time period he is referring to in his statement is specifically linked to the time period only after people started taking Covid 19 vaccines which is exactly what you are misconstruing deliberately to engage in a false narrative.

You then stated:

"A lot more than usual." Where in that statement does it state or in any statement that physician stated that " a lot more" is linked to the time period after people take Covid 19 vaccines?

You stated:

You stated:

"Please do not cry to hard over how badly you were shut down and slammed in this response. Also try not to stroke out. I mean it is stroke season right? All that mind reading might raise your blood pressure. It's best to avoid doing that in the future so you don't die suddenly."

I actually went back and edited my comments to avoid using such snarky comments. You remind me that in such posts familiarity breeds contempt and my contempt in regards to your misinformation as to Covid 19 detracts from the falsehoods you make that need to be challenged.

 

~ This is actually the " Stroke of Luck" season if you do not have a side-effect after repeated pokes — as big government encourages you to do.

" If you don't hear it from the government — it's not true. "
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Please learn to use multiquote. That mess isn't worth my time.

Select a portion of text and the quote option will come up. Do this for each section you want to quote. Then at the end you can add all those quotes and insert your commentary between them.

 

The people in this thread.....

There's always been flu. There's always been death from flu, and strokes from flu and problems with elderly managing the flu.

Everyone else.....
So yeah but now we have stroke season as a real and new thing because these numbers are MASSIVE.

 

Nonsense-I did not use multi quote because I specifically had to isolate your false statements. There is no need to repeat them twice. Once was unfortunate enough.

Next your answer is expected.

You started a thread full of nonsensical assumptions and you have no clue how to defend your nonsense so you make the above lame comment because you have no idea how to defend your nonsense.

 

Massive compared to what? Why do you out and out fabricate bullshit. You have no statistics or proof that strokes related to flus have gone up in rate only in the last two years. Where are your statistics?

 

Oh look who selectively responded when he said he would not. Interesting how that works. Pathetic as well in its transparency.

 

Here again are the two references that show the link between flu and strokes was known before two years ago contrary to Trumpt's false statement:

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/STROKEAHA.110.596783

Here again is proof that the seasonal rates of flu and stroke were known and discussed long before two years ago:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa025028

Trumpt has not responded to the above falsehoods because he has no idea how to.

Next to further repudiate his agenda and any attempt he might engage in to say flu shots cause strokes so should not be taken:

https://healthsci.mcmaster.ca/home/...rotect-patients-with-heart-failure-from-death

Next to further repudiate his agenda to suggest Covid 19 vaccines cause strokes and should not be taken:

https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/new-data-shows-covid-19-vaccine-does-not-raise-stroke-risk/

 

As a service to "the people in this thread" with attention deficit disorders or who blindly agree with fabricated claims as to disease dates I have provided specific references that did not come out in my original response which prove Trumpt is spreading manure.

 

Why do you need statistics when you know what you know?

 

Where are your stats?

 

how many died in 2019, how many died in 2022, when anti-vaxers don't give numbers, it seems like bunk

 

There has been so many lies the government and health industry has been caught in over this vaccine that anyone who doesn't have a healthy degree of skepticism is a fool

 

I can't prove it, but I'm 100% certain that some of these 'safe and effective' people fake their vaccination records and tell others to go get it because herd immunity is like taxes and gun control- its for the 'others' to sacrifice for the collective, not 'us'. All vaccines are a vaccine injury lottery. Most of them are pretty safe (a few of them were not and we found that out from a lot of people getting hurt and dying from them...), but they all come with some risk that we're sposed to accept for the good of society. A few of these fakers that want to be protected but won't help out were caught in Spain a year or so back, pushing vaccines for others while buying fake docs for themselves. Spain is just where a few of them got caught.

 

I am interrupting this regularly scheduled conspiracy theory to bring you this important statement.

I don't know, seems like the OP could have just googled "stroke season" and read some of the information that existed for years before COVID about it.

Here's one link on a study from 2017 that shows strokes increase seasonally.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5544452/

You may now continue on with your anti-vaxx theater.

 

Your seeder post wasn't worth spit.

 

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