Dr Wood's claim that 80% of the steel from the towers was turned to dust.

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  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The first and second laws of thermodynamics will not be available for comment at the breakthrough energy conference.
     
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    How does the evidence that Dr. Judy Wood presents in WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? apply to the first and second laws of thermodynamics when it wasn't a kinetic energy event?

    [video=google;6827163268088648679]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6827163268088648679[/video]
    Could it be that you are just caught in a time warp?
     
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    I wasn't?

    What was it then,exactly?
     
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    Apparently, according to EG, energy was generated in one location and it was transported to another location without doing work, or exchanging entropy, and that somehow caused the towers to fall down. EG, you should make sure she mentions this at the convention. After that she can segue into how the amount of energy in a hurricane had something to do with it.
     
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    Can't you transport a tempest in a teacup?
     
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    There is no forensic evidence that 9/11 was a kinetic energy event. To say otherwise would be a fabrication of the truth.

    It's just a jump to the left
    And then a step to the right
    With your hands on your hips
    You bring your knees in tight
    But it's the pelvic thrust that really drives you insane,
    Let's do the Time Warp again!

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  7. Fangbeer

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    Conversely, the forensic evidence that you don't have a clue what kinetic energy is is abundant. To say otherwise would be a contradiction in your argument.

    Kinetic energy is energy in use. It's the transfer of energy from one location to another. Your beam weapon implies that a beam of energy moved from one location to another to perform some action on the towers which caused them to collapse. Are you now denying this position?
     
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    A collapse is nothing BUT a kinetic energy event. You fail yet again. :strong: my ass! :lol: Maybe some day you will get something right, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

    BTW, Fangbeer is right. You can't do ANYTHING without kinetic energy of some form being used. You claiming there was no kinetic energy only demonstrates to everyone reading this that your clue meter is reading negative ten. :lol: Better luck next time!
     
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    By the way, the first and second laws of thermodynamics apply to all energy transactions, not just kinetic ones. Of course, Wood goes to great length to describe that kinetic energy available in hurricane, so the claim that kinetic energy wasn't involved shoots the hurricane argument right in the foot.

    The laws of thermodynamics shoot the hurricane argument in the foot as well. That's why I said they wouldn't be available for comment at the convention.

    If the hurricane powered a device that did work on the towers, then the hurricane would have lost the amount of energy required to power the device, along with an amount lost to entropy. Since the atoms in the steel of the towers were held together with millions of joules of energy, it would take a greater amount of energy to break them apart. The hurricane, thus, would have needed to supply millions of joules of energy. We should have observed the hurricane weaken by millions of joules of energy more than the normal entropy of hurricanes. Since the hurricane weakened according to normal entropy in the north Atlantic, we can be sure that no hurricane energy was used to power a top secret star wars device.
     
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    Following Dr Judy Wood's appearance at the Breakthrough Energy Movement (BEM) Conference during the weekend of 9 – 11 November (yes, how appropriate), she will be at a number of presentations around the UK – in a packed schedule. Dr Wood will be giving an updated/augmented presentation following on from the ones she gave in October 2011 in the UK. It is hoped that at least one of these will be filmed and made available online and/or in DVD format. :wink:

    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=360&Itemid=60

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    :lol: She can't get any traction here in the states, so she has to go overseas to see if they are more ignorant over there. I am afraid she is in for a major disappointment.
     
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    Yes, hopefully it is recorded and available for DVD. It's always more entertaining when they put their woo in writing. It makes it easier to make fun of and quote to later.
     
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    Really,it's none of your business
     
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    Doesn't anyone in the 9/11 movement own a cell phone or something she can borrow for a little? Or, given past performance, can I just assume she has no idea how one of those works either?
     
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    Fish Hat Pope - Judy


    [video=youtube;w0ht16LPJLo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ht16LPJLo&feature=youtu.be[/video]
    Andy Roseby, an AE911 Truth petition signer who was deleted for posting about DEW research and Dr. Judy Wood, wrote this song.

    Gauging Gage's 9/11 Truthfulness
    http://mazeinamirror.blogspot.com/2011/11/guaging-gages-911-truthfulness-for.html

    Directed Energy Lyrics! (DEL)
    © 2012 Andy Roseby

    let it never be said, that research is dead
    let the architects know, that their theory must go
    drop a bill-i-ard ball, from the top to the street
    takes less than 10 seconds flat, with nothing else in between?

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    tell us where the towers wenna

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a

    due to lots of interest, judy's book hits the press
    shows you just what happened, always check the evidence
    toasted cars on the street, with no obvious heat
    towers turning to dust, and the fastest known rust

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    tell us where the towers wenna

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a

    you will see, you will see
    that there's no need to be
    stuck with nano-thermite or nukes

    and you will see, you will see
    erin parked off the coast
    total lack of most building debris

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a

    judy, judy, judy, judy
    where did the towers go-a ​
     
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    Yep, kooks like to quote people with some alphabet soup tacked on after their names and treat what those people say as the golden truth, at least as long as what they're saying is in agreement with what they believe.

    What do the 9/11 kooks think of experts with alphabet soup who say that Judy Wood is full of it? Probably that they're liars. Liars because they won't admit da truf.
     
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    The Gatekeepers of 911 Truth Exposed
    [video=youtube;uBVx_e30ViU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBVx_e30ViU&feature=youtu.be[/video]​
    This video was a collaborative effort between Myself (WHENDASHTF), Charlie Pound (THECHARLYPOUND), Dr. Judy Wood & Andrew Johnson (CHECKTHEEVIDENCE) among others. I try to show how Steven Jones who was receiving funding from the Dept of Energy,manipulated the LENR Technology (coined Cold Fusion) and put a halt to a safe workable alternative to HOT Nuclear Energy. We see the dangerous side of that now in FUKUSHIMA. The Gatekeepers of the '911 Truth Movement' are now manipulating and distracting anyone from further TRUTH with the Nano-Thermite myth and are controlled by their own and others agendas. These buildings were indeed destroyed, not by planes or fire as the official Government story tells you, or by explosives. Look at the evidence with your own eyes and logic.

    Gatekeepers
    music, lyrics, and vocals by Charlie Pound © 2012
    (Full Use Permission Granted)

    So there you go, following them
    But you don't know your just a means to an end
    The truth you seek, they want to hide
    That's why they keep you close by their side. They're the gatekeepers And they hold all the keys They're the gatekeepers Information disease

    Pie in the sky, is all you've been fed
    I think that is why you forgot your own head
    Sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind
    That makes me believe you've lost your own minds -- To the gatekeepers They hold all the keys They're the gate keepers Information disease

    The late great John Lennon comes to mind when I hear The Gatekeepers by Charlie Pound. The still images are from a Baltimore American Physical Society press conference, May 1-2, 1989, where Steven E. Jones orchestrated a vote about whether or not Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions or LENR (aka "Cold Fusion") is bogus and the researchers who brought it forward should be made fools of. Jones holds his hand up and then coerces the others to hold up their hand. Science by press conference vote? However, LENR is NOT Fusion! Steven E. Jones coined the term "Cold Fusion" so that it could be debunked. Dr. Edmund Storms makes reference to this misnomer. (see page 365 of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?) LENR is real....and very related to what happened on 9/11.

    The Jones "Vote" Against Fleischmann and Pons
    http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/StevenEJones/JonesVote.shtml

    Heavy Watergate - The War Against Cold Fusion
    [video=youtube;AB6DjR8zKMo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6DjR8zKMo&feature=youtu.be[/video]​

    Cold Fusion: Fire From Water
    (At 0:18:50 minutes tritium in LENR is discussed. See pages 372 to 376 of WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?)
    http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/cold-fusion-fire-from-water/

    Russ Gerst on In Other News - Steven "Thermite" Jones & the Cold Fusion Scandal
    (audio source of Russ Gerst where he mentions Jones, cold fusion, 911, Dr. Judy Wood, plus Pons & Fleishmann)
    [video=youtube;dk0R6pvfvL0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk0R6pvfvL0&feature=youtu.be[/video]​

    Physicists Debunk Claim Of a New Kind of Fusion
    (New York Times article of Jones debunking "cold fusion.")
    http://www.nytimes.com/1989/05/03/us/physicists-debunk-claim-of-a-new-kind-of-fusion.html?scp=136&sq=%22cold+fusion%22&st=nyt

    WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?
    http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/

    Dr Judy Wood - "Where Did the Towers Go?" - Holland / UK Presentations - November 2012
    http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=360&Itemid=60

    911 and Crop Circles - Connecting the Evidence
    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/39104/911_and_Crop_Circles___Connecting_the_Evidence/

    "People trust their eyes above all else - but most people see what they wish to see, or what they believe they should see; not what is really there" - Zoë Marriott, Shadows on the Moon

    "When one feels no shame in telling a deliberate lie, there is no evil, I tell you, he will not do." - Buddha Gotama, Unknown Book

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    Get help manny.
     
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    Yes, please. It doesn't even matter where you get the help from. Just seek it out somewhere.
     
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    There is a lot of deception, distraction, and diversion going on, both intentional and otherwise, leading people to climb on to popular "theories" or "band wagons". Truth is not established by popularity, although agenda-driven political campaigns are. So we need to establish a better way to sort through the information we find by improving our problem-solving skills.

    There are various groups on the internet lead by nefarious figures such as Richard Gage and Jim Fetzer, each with their own set of beliefs and objectives, promoting how it was done, or who did it or why they did it. But none of them have taken the first step of an investigation which is to determine what it is that was done, that is, to first determine WHAT happened. Until they have done that, they are merely speculating or theorizing or hypothesizing or guessing. This is essentially assuming what happened and then proving the assumptions through biased observations (i.e. "cherry-picking" data). Promoting beliefs distracts away from determining WHAT happened. This is why the order of problem solving is so important. Remember, you must first determine WHAT happened BEFORE you can determine HOW it happened and independent of knowing how it happened.

    Remember how a cover-up works. Get people to theorize and speculate about an imagined problem (i.e Mini-Neutron Bombs), then get them to argue opinions with others. Everyone will be arguing about opinions of speculations of theories of opinions of guesswork, and they'll just go round and round and round and get nowhere. It is amazingly easy to keep a cover up in place! The only way out of that vicious cycle is to deal with the facts and only the facts (empirical evidence).

    If you read WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO?, you would know from the EVIDENCE that the Twin Towers turned to dust in mid-air never hitting the ground.

    Bombs do not do that.
    Mini-neutron bombs do not do that.
    Thermite does not do that.
    Thermate does not do that.
    Nano-enhanced thermite does not do that.
    Nano-thermite does not do that.
    New-and-improved super-duper mini-micro-nano thermite does not do that.
    Firecrackers do not do that.
    Fire does not do that.
    Nukes do not do that.
    Megga nukes do not do that.
    Milli-nukes do not do that.
    Mini-nukes do not do that.
    Nano-nukes cannot do that.
    A wrecking ball cannot do that.
    A slingshot cannot do that.
    Missiles cannot do that.

    We know this because we know those things above involve Kinetic Energy and we know that the "dustification" was done without Kinetic Energy. That is, dustification was not done with high heat nor with some other form of Kinetic Energy (wrecking ball, projectile, gravity collapse). The building was not cooked to death nor was it beaten to death. So Kinetic Energy Weapons (KEW) did not destroy the buildings. But we know that Energy was Directed somehow and controlled within fairly precise boundaries only destroying buildings with a WTC prefix to cause them to turn to dust in mid air. That is, some kind of (cold) Directed Energy Weapon (cDEW) had to have done this. (i.e. LENR) Energy was directed and manipulated within the material such that it came apart without involving high heat and without having something fly through the air and hit it (bullets, missile, bombs, wrecking ball, a giant hammer, many micro hammers...)

    If this technology can manipulate energy to do something like this, it can also be manipulated to provide us with "free energy" (i.e. "off the grid"). Simply by looking at the cover of Dr. Wood's book you can realize there must be a technology that can do this. This is evidence that such technology does exist. This is evidence that a technology capable of providing "free energy" ("off the grid") exists. The whole world witnessed this which means the whole world can know that "free-energy technology" exists. This realization will change the world. This is probably the biggest reason why there is so much effort spent misrepresenting, distorting, and suppressing Dr. Wood's research.

    Our educational systems typically "teach the test" and it is usually a multiple-choice test. We are not taught very good problem-solving skills. So it is very easy to manipulate a population with poor problem-solving skills. Get them to focus on the HOW or the WHO and they will never be able to solve the problem. That is the secret. Look at how the official story was designed. We were told "Bin Laden did it." But what is "it" that he did? And look at how the Truther Movement is managed. Well meaning people, looking for answers, are directed to focus on HOW or WHO (i.e. mini-neutron bombs did "it", thermite did "it", the Jooos did "it", "9/11 was an inside job" ). Truthers are also conditioned to attack anyone addressing Dr. Wood's research and are told "she has a bogus theory" when Dr. Wood has no theory, only EVIDENCE. It keeps the well-meaning Truthers from looking at the EVIDENCE like a rodeo clown distracts a bull.

    Why? Look at what the EVIDENCE tells us. It tells us the truth. "Empirical evidence is the truth that theory must mimic."

    The empirical EVIDENCE tells us that the majority of the building turned into dust in mid air. Therefore, something that can do this (turn it into dust in mid air) must exist. That is the proof that it exists. It happened. You don't need the serial numbers for the gizmo to know what happened. When "white man" first arrived on the American continent with firearms, indigenous people did not need to know the serial numbers of their weapons to know what they can do. They didn't need to have seen such weapons in order to know that there exists a weapon that can fire a piece of metal fast enough to kill their brother. Likewise, by the end of the day on August 6, 1945, the people living near Hiroshima, Japan, did not need to understand how a nuclear bomb works in order to know that there exists a technology that can produce enormous amounts of heat or to know that there exists a super-duper Kinetic Energy Weapon (KEW) that is capable of destroying an entire city.

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    Crazy judy is claiming the towers never hit the ground now?

    NOTHING turns steel to 'dust' instantly

    NOTHING manny,and your continued shilling for judy's comedy of errors will change that
     
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    On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, from 7:00pm until 10:30pm, Dr Judy Wood and Andrew Johnson will be presenting visual evidence of directed energy technology used in the destruction of the WTC complex on 9/11 at Cabaret Voltaire 36 Blair Street, EH1 1QR Edinburgh, United Kingdom.

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    Let me know how that goes...I bet it'll be world changing.
     
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    'Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura': Death Rays, 9/11 and Murders
    @ 24:00 The John Hutchison Effect
    @ 34:00 Dr. Judy Wood​


    [video=youtube;6AiFL9FSz-E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AiFL9FSz-E&feature=youtu.be[/video]​

    Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura is back for a second season, and Jesse is back at his investigative best with new topics such as shapeshifters, death rays, time travel, and more.

    The second episode in the new season focused on the Death Ray, a weapon that can reportedly "vaporize targets and entire cities from miles away." It is also said to have the ability to stop the human heart and give no telltale signs. The coroner will say the death was from "natural causes" when in fact it was from a death ray.

    Whether or not you believe in some of the things Jesse Ventura covers, you've got to admit that the show is quite interesting and often proves some of these more insane theories to be true.

    In episode two of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura, the former Navy Seal and Governor ventures into unknown territory, searching for the truth about the death ray.

    Images of metal literally melting, and contorting when hit with the death ray, remind Jesse of how the metal beams found after the buildings collapsed looked.

    Jesse investigates the so-called Hutchinson effect, in which a death ray is put to the test with stunning results.

    Dr. Judy Wood, who wrote a book "Where Did The Towers Go?," spoke to Jesse and his team about the suggestion that the Twin Towers weren't taken down by terrorists or controlled demolition but instead by a death ray.

    Oddly enough, Dr. Judy's research assistant was shot and killed, making it seem as though she might be on the right path with her theory.

    Even though some of Jesse Ventura's topics seem way out in left field, more often than not he has reputable information to back them up.
     
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    Not if she shot him, and then wore his skin like a suit.
     
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