Drunk men screaming 'Trump' attack Muslim straphanger, cops say

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  1. RPA1

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    I never said I fear Muslims. I just said their religion (theocracy) is not compatible with our Separation Clause. They are free to practice their religion but they are not free to institute Sharia Law here in the U.S.

    You used the word 'ecumenical' in your statement of wishing to ban 'ecumenical' religions. (then you recanted) but, regardless, that means you wish to ban all Christian faith. Apparently you wish to fill the void with Muslim faith. You are suggesting a theocracy...didn't you know that? Are you OK with that? You do realize that Atheism is punishable by death in the Muslim religion....Yes?
     
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    The plot thickens:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yasmin-...orted-nyc-subway-harassment-reported-missing/

    BS NEWS December 10, 2016, 12:19 AM
    Muslim teen who said she was harassed on NYC subway reported missing

    Yasmin Seweid says she was verbally attacked by a group of men on the New York City subway. CBS NEW YORK
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    Update: Yasmin Seweid has been found safe.

    NEW HYDE PARK, N.Y. -- A Muslim teen who said she was verbally attacked by three drunk men on the subway last week has been reported missing, CBS New York reports.

    Yasmin Seweid, 18, was last seen leaving her New Hyde Park, Long Island, home on Wednesday, police said.

    She was wearing a black jacket, blue sweater, black yoga pants, and black head scarf and carrying a bag of clothing.

    Last Thursday, Seweid told CBS New York that she was on the 6 train heading home from a school event when she was verbally attacked by the men, who she said made references to President-elect Donald Trump and called her an “f-ing terrorist.”

    “They kept saying, ‘you don’t belong here, get out of this country, go back to your country,’ and finally they came really close and they were like, ‘take that rag off your head,’” she said.

    Nassau County police said the Missing Person Squad is investigating.

    Seweid was described as 5 feet 9 inches tall and 150 pounds.

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    Hard to imagine white people attacking anyone.
    It's almost always the other way around.
     
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    the concept of the angry white male, is something that alluded you?
     
  5. RPA1

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    Who reported her missing?
     
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    A happy ending:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yasmin-seweid-muslim-teen-harassment-new-york-subway-found-safe/

    CBS NEWS December 10, 2016, 10:57 AM
    Yasmin Seweid, Muslim teen who reported harassment on New York subway, found safe

    Yasmin Seweid says she was verbally attacked by a group of men on the New York City subway. CBS NEW YORK
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    NEW HYDE PARK, N.Y. -- The Muslim teen who said she was verbally attacked by three drunk men on a New York subway last week and had been reported missing Friday has been found, CBS New York reports.

    Nassau County Police didn’t say where Yasmin Seweid, 18, has been the last few days, but her family told WCBS-AM that she was safe.


    Seweid was last seen leaving her New Hyde Park home on Wednesday, police said.

    She was wearing a black jacket, blue sweater, black yoga pants and black head scarf and carrying a bag of clothing.

    Last Thursday, Seweid told WCBS-TV that she was on the subway heading home from a school event when she was verbally attacked by the men, who she said made references to President-elect Donald Trump and called her a terrorist.

    “They kept saying, ‘You don’t belong here, get out of this country, go back to your country,’ and finally they came really close and they were like, ‘Take that rag off your head,’” Seweid said.

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    So no one cut her head off?

    Ok cool, Next problem.
     
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    I've overjoyed. Where was she? Will she be making any public statements to me media? Will they be able to question her? Are the police treating this as a "hate crime?" If not, why? Have the police actually investigated this? Have the Feds been called in?
     
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    Not getting your head chopped off being the litmus test of civility in the new Trumped America.
     
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    I'd say it's a fair gauge on how you are doing when dealing with any muslim, whether or not you get your head chopped off.

    Some one hurt her feelings? Better get that snowflake to a safe space.

    However in this age of video, I find it rather odd there is no corroborating evidence. Something smells funny.
     
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    All for naught:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/yasmin-...tory-of-anti-muslim-harassment-on-nyc-subway/

    CBS NEWS December 14, 2016, 5:26 PM
    Teen accused of making up story of anti-Muslim harassment on NYC subway

    Yasmin Seweid. CBS NEW YORK
    NEW YORK — Police on Wednesday said a New Hyde Park teen made up a story about being verbally attacked on a New York City subway train because she is Muslim, CBS New York reported.

    Yasmin Seweid, 18, was in police custody Wednesday afternoon, police told CBS New York.

    Police told CBS News she was charged with filing a false report and obstructing governmental administration.

    Seweid claimed that she was verbally assaulted by a group of three men on the subway around 10 p.m. Thursday, Dec. 1.

    She told CBS New York she got on the No. 6 Train at 23rd Street and Park Avenue after leaving an event at Baruch College.

    “I heard them talk, but I had my headphones in, I wasn’t really listening, I had a long day. And they came closer and I distinctly heard them saying, ‘Donald Trump,’” she said.


    Seweid said she was then verbally attacked by the three drunk, white men.

    “They were surrounding me from behind and they were like, ‘Oh look, it’s an f***ing terrorist,’” she said. “I didn’t answer. They pulled my strap of the bag and it ripped, and that’s when I turned around and I was really polite and I was like, ‘can you please leave me alone?’ and everyone was looking, no one said a thing, everyone just looked away.”

    Seweid said no one stopped the men, not even when they tried to tear off her hijab.

    “They kept saying, ‘you don’t belong here, get out of this country, go back to your country,’ and finally they came really close and they were like, ‘take that rag off your head,’” she said.

    Seweid also criticized President-elect Donald Trump.

    “The president-elect just promotes this stuff and is very anti-Muslim, very Islamophobic, and he’s just condoning it,” she said.

    But on Wednesday, police said Seweid made up the story of her attack.

    Last week, Seweid went missing for a few days, but was later found safe.She had been carrying a bag of clothing when she left her home.

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  13. Stuart Wolfe

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    I posted this on another related thread, but the cries of some of our board liberals in this thread bear repeating:

    Absolutely these are Christian values. If by Christian you meant "Muslim Values" So you're saying it's Muslim values to lie and fake a hate crime, right? Gotcha.

    Wait, you meant to say "Identifying as a victim so much that you lie about it in order to get attention is the litmus test for Liberal America", right? :roflol:
     
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    I didn't respond to the story but to the proposal that three drunk white men harassing a Muslim woman was OK provided it didn't go so far as to chop her head off.

    You're responding to a story you've made up about me.

    Therefore one of us is a Trump cultist.
     
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    Nice try, but I've said before that I'm in no way a Trump supporter.

    On the other hand, you fell for an obvious fake story from a fake victim and said this was because of "Trump's America" Even more noteworthy: You didn't even acknowledge it WAS a fake story.

    I'm quoting your own words and you're backpedaling away from them. Puree comedy gold.
     
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    You're too nuts for me to bother with.
     
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    So "Trump amerika" is responsible for Democrats make false police statements? I really do not see what Trump can do to stop stuff like this from happening. Maybe Democrats need to stop being liars.
     
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    So what do you think now?
     
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    Here's more:

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-new-york-hijab-2016-story.html
    In New York, attacks on women with head scarves raise alarms
    Hijabis of New York
    Rana Abdelhamid, 23, founder of Hijabis of New York. (Barbara Demick / Los Angeles Times)
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    One woman is a decorated officer of the New York Police Department, commended two years ago for running into a burning building to save a baby.

    Another is a 45-year-old employee of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority who was commuting to work on the subway wearing her uniform.
    They are among a rising number of Muslim women who say they have been assaulted in recent days in New York, renowned as the melting pot of America, and until recently vaunted as one of the most immigrant-friendly places in the world.

    The off-duty police officer, Aml Elsokary, was parking her car near her home in Brooklyn on Saturday evening when she saw a tall white man with a pit bull shoving her son, who had just gotten out of the car.
    Letters threatening genocide against Muslims and praising Trump sent to multiple California mosques
    Letters threatening genocide against Muslims and praising Trump sent to multiple California mosques
    “ISIS (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), I will cut your throat. Go back to your country!” the man yelled at her, before loosening the pit bull’s leash and instructing the dog to “sic her.”

    The following day, a 36-year-old neighbor, identified as Christopher Nelson, was arrested and charged with aggravated harassment, a hate crime, according to police.

    “I was sick to my stomach when I heard that one of our officers was subjected to threats and taunting simply because of her faith,” New York Mayor Bill de Blasio said Dec. 5 at a news conference with Elsokary to discuss a recent spate of the crimes. “There’s been a huge uptick in hate crimes. It’s very troubling.”

    Elsokary, a 15-year veteran of the police force, wears a scarf under her police cap.

    “I became a police officer to show the positive side of a New Yorker, Muslim woman that can do this job, that is non-biased. I help everybody, no matter what’s your religion, what’s your faith, what you do in New York,’’ she said at the news conference.

    New York police report that hate crimes have more than doubled compared with this time last year. There were 42 incidents from the Nov. 8 election until Dec. 4, compared with 19 in the same period in 2015. More than half of the incidents have been directed against Jews – many of them involving swastika graffiti. Four incidents of anti-Muslim harassment were logged by police, although it appears there are many more that were not reported.

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    “Most of the people I know don’t report. They feel humiliated and don’t want to call the police,” said Rana Abdelhamid, 23, a Queens-born daughter of Egyptian immigrants. Now a graduate student at Harvard University, Abdelhamid started a social media project called Hijabis of New York two years ago to support women who wear the head covering in the city.

    Abdelhamid was one of the organizers of a small candlelight vigil Dec. 6 in Washington Square Park. Afterward, the participants retreated to a cafe where they recounted the many times they were harassed for wearing a hijab.

    For Abdelhamid, the first time was when she was 15 and a man crept up behind her and pulled off her scarf. The second time was just a few weeks ago when she was walking in Queens. “Why are you wearing that costume?” someone yelled at her. “Go back to wear you came from.”

    Abdelhamid didn’t report the incident because she wasn’t physically touched, but she said it left her shaken and in tears.

    “It is hard to explain the trauma you feel when you come face to face with somebody who has so much hatred for you,” Abdelhamid said.

    You can’t have a candidate for president single out groups of Americans negatively and not have some ramifications.
    — New York Mayor Bill de Blasio
    Abdelhamid believes the harassment now is worse than even after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks by Al Qaeda militants. In recent weeks, she has started to wrap her scarf like a turban over her head when she has to take the subway.

    “It makes it look less hijab-like and more like a fashion statement,” she said.

    Many women find themselves caught between the spiritual imperative to cover their heads and the practicalities of transportation. The New York subways, where strangers are forced into an unaccustomed intimacy, have been the setting for many incidents.

    On Dec. 5, Soha Salama, an Egyptian-born mother of four, was shoved down a staircase at Grand Central Terminal during the morning rush hour, sustaining injuries to her ankles and legs. Her assailant had followed her off the subway, she told reporters.

    “You’re a terrorist. You shouldn’t work here,” the man yelled at her, poking the badge on her jacket that identified her as a transportation authority employee. As she tried to run away, the man attempted to yank off the brightly patterned white, green and red head scarf she was wearing.

    New York police said Wednesday that another reported case was a fabrication. A 18-year-old business student had claimed she was accosted by three inebriated white males who tried to rip off her hijab while yelling Trump’s name. The woman, Yasmin Seweid, was arrested and charged with obstructing governmental administration and filing a false report.

    Some New York officials blame the surge in hate crimes on Trump, arguing that his threats to deport Muslims during the presidential campaign have emboldened people to carry out racist attacks.

    “You can’t have a candidate for president single out groups of Americans negatively and not have some ramifications,” De Blasio said at Monday’s news conference. He said that although Trump had disavowed white supremacist groups, he would need to do more to rein them in.

    “A few times recently the president-elect has spoken out against it and he needs to keep doing that,” the mayor said. “The temperature has to be brought down.”
     
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    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/yasmin-seweid-hoax-hate-crimes-fake-news-islamophobia

    Not #FakeNews: Experts Warn One Hoax Doesn't Discredit Wave Of Hate Crimes
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    ByALLEGRA KIRKLANDPublishedDECEMBER 15, 2016, 6:10 PM EST
    The New York Police Department on Wednesday charged a Muslim teenager whose story about being harassed on the subway by a group of Donald Trump supporters had gone viral with filing a false report. The backlash was swift.

    "#FakeNews: Media Hyperventilates Over Another Anti-Muslim Hate Crime Hoax,” read one headline on NewsBusters that claimed these kinds of stories “are nearly always proved to be hoaxes.”

    Other websites and conservative commentators also targeted the media for spreading 18-year-old Yasmin Seweid’s account of three white men calling her a “terrorist” and trying to pull off her hijab on a 6 train as other riders stood by.

    “Muslim Teen Arrested After Media Hyped Her Fake Anti-Trump ‘Hate Crime Hoax’ Story,” was the headline at Biz Pac Review, while Heat Street published a piece titled “What Yasmin Seweid’s Pretty Little Lies Reveal About ‘Fake News’ Media Hypocrisy.” Anti-Muslim activist Pamela Geller patted herself on the back for predicting that the story was made up all along.

    Police sources told the New York Daily News that Seweid, a student at Baruch College, invented the story because she feared getting in trouble with her conservative Egyptian parents for breaking curfew after staying out drinking with friends. After police found no corroborating evidence or witnesses, Seweid admitted that she made the story up, according to the report.

    Yet hate crimes experts say Seweid's fabrication is the exception, not the rule. Such rare "hoax" crimes bely the real rise of hate crimes in the United States, bolstering the narratives of those who believe Islamopohobia is an overblown issue or that bias crimes are the stuff of liberal fantasy.

    According to FBI statistics released in November, 2015 was the worst year for anti-Muslim hate crimes since 2001, when the terror attacks on the World Trade Center fueled a surge of Islamophobic incidents. Those crimes continued into this election year. The NYPD reported 375 hate crime complaints to date in 2016, compared to 282 incidents in 2015; the number of anti-Muslim incidents reported in 2016 rose to 33, up from 19 reports in 2015.

    NYPD hate crime statistics year-to-date as of Dec. 11 Yet even the hard numbers are fodder for disputing the rise in hate crimes in the U.S.

    “I’m a criminologist and people have accused my reports of being biased when I’m using official law enforcement criteria or actual law enforcement data,” Brian Levin, the director for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, told TPM in a Thursday interview. “There’s something politically going on now that is different. These hoaxes have become symbols for some who want to promote the idea that most hate crimes are hoaxes. That’s important to rectify."

    According to Levin, hoaxes do crop up in hate crime reporting, as they do across the spectrum of criminal offenses. But he said they are a “tiny fraction” of the hundreds of hate crimes reported annually.

    “As criminologists we see hoax fires, hoax domestic violence accusations, hoax car thefts, and the overwhelming majority of those offenses really are being committed, too," he said. "Those of us who are in the information analysis business want to make sure we root out those false positives, but the bottom line is that our research in this field shows a significant rise in anti-Muslim hate crimes."

    As with those other offenses, there is a range of reasons why people like Seweid may be motivated to falsely report a crime. Hate crime experts list a desire for attention, elevation of status, diversion, political agenda, insurance fraud and mental instability as some of the most common motivating factors.

    Yet those experts they say there is a reason why stories like Seweid's resonate so deeply: the spate of legitimate bias crimes and attacks we’ve seen on the news and read about for months, many of which were caught on camera.

    Nathan Lean, director of research for the Islamophobia project at Georgetown University's Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding, posited that Seweid used this particular excuse for coming home late because she knew the story would be “believable.”

    “The reason this girl made up this story is because of the real possibility of her experiencing a scenario like this,” he said pointing to the “visibility” of Muslim women who wear hijabs.

    “That doesn’t legitimate what she did,” he continued. “But if we were living in a climate where anti-Muslim sentiment wasn’t so intense and there hadn’t been a spike in hate crimes, her story would not have been received with the same credibility.”

    The biggest danger of hoaxes like Seweid's, experts say, is that they diminish the very real bias that people experience every day. For Trump supporters who were accused of racism and xenophobia during the campaign, false reports like Seweid’s serve as confirmation that hate crime incidents don’t happen with the frequency they do. False reports give them ammo to claim Islamophobia, like “fake news,” is a charge unfairly drummed up by political opponents.

    “We don’t like to think of ourselves as capable of making people feel horrible for being born Muslim or middle eastern,” Toni Bisconti, a psychology professor at the University of Akron who studies hate crimes, said. “So if we have one or two situations in which their reports aren’t true, we can just let ourselves off. We don’t have to feel guilty. We can say, ‘Look they’re making huge deals out of everything, we don’t need to feel responsible.’”

    “It’s like the plane that crashes and everyone is scared of flying but is still driving while drinking,” she added. “That situation doesn’t make flying unsafe but it’s so big and has such a big impact. If we think Middle Easterners are somehow suspect, this just proves it.”

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    Sister Of Hijab Hoaxer Lashes Out At Media, New York City Police

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    The sister of Yasmin Seweid, the 18-year-old Muslim woman who lied about being harassed by a group of Donald Trump supporters on the New York City subway earlier this month, is blaming the media and the New York City police department for investigating the story.

    In a Facebook post on Thursday, Sara Seweid also appeared to excuse her hoaxing sister, expressing concern over the “mental state of young Muslim women who feel that they have to lie so intensely to survive.”

    On Wednesday, Yasmin, a student at Baruch College, admitted that she lied to police when she claimed that she was harassed by three pro-Trump white men on the subway. Seweid claimed that the men called her a terrorist and attempted to remove her hijab. And worse, she said, passengers on the subway car refused to intervene to help her.

    The story went viral, with news outlets reporting her allegations without questioning whether she may have been lying. Seweid also gave interviews to local news stations.


    Seweid admitted on Wednesday that she made up the story so that she would not get in trouble for missing her curfew. She was arrested and charged with filing a false police report.

    While Sara Seweid wrote on Facebook that she “is not excusing what my sister did,” she went on a lengthy diatribe in which she did just that. Seweid blamed the media for covering the story and blamed NYPD for investigating the hate crime claim.

    “The NYPD should have never been involved in the first place even if the incident did happen,” wrote Seweid, who has a “Deport Trump” bumper sticker posted on her Facebook account.


    “It became super clear to me these past two week [sic] that the police’s first instinct is to doubt your story and try to disprove it.”

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    Police reportedly began to question Seweid’s claims after they could find no witnesses to corroborate her story. Suspicion increased after she disappeared for two days late last week. She was later found safe at a friend’s house.
    “The NYPD doesn’t care about us or our safety. Never did,” Sara Seweid wrote on Facebook.

    She also complained that reporters followed up on the story.

    “Things snowballed out of our control because of the media because by the next morning the news had started publishing stories. Reporters made things so much worse for my family,” Seweid wrote.

    She went on to suggest that the public should sympathize with Muslim women who fabricate tales of harassment.

    “I’m deeply concerned about the mental state of young Muslim women who feel that they have to lie so intensely to survive,” she wrote.

    “I know this isn’t the first time something like this happens so I really think people who are so concerned about how Muslims will be perceived in the media or how future hate crimes will be dealt with need to take a step back and think why muslim [women of color] have felt the need to do this. Its [sic] not for attention.”

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