Durham Grand Jury Indicts Clinton-Linked Attorney Involved in Russia Probe

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    There's more evidence that the Clinton Campaign and it's contractors colluded with Russians than Trump. That's the facts. The pee-pee dossier had a Russian national source, and Clinton sent a Russian to meet with Trump in the infamous "Trump Tower" meeting that the left went apoplectic about.

    No such relationship has ever been shown to exist with the Trump campaign.
     
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    No, in fact it wasn't. The "Trump Tower server" wasn't even a Trump server. It was a 3rd party marketing mail application, lol. Read the indictment. It's all laid out there. The accusation was hopelessly laughable.
     
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    Correct, my mistake regarding Durham. How about the cases against Manafort, Guiiani and Cohen...One was Trump’s campaign manager and the other two Trump’s personal attorneys. Roy Cohn too... All convicted felons. If anybody “corruptly protects their own” it’s the Trumpies. He had Barr stepin and dropped the case against Flynn move to reduce Stone’s sentence, then pardoned several crooks who were convicted of dozens of felonies. Who are you trying to kid Tex? “The Democrats corruptly protect their own” ROFL
     
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    So why was a 3rd party marketing mail application communicating with Russia's Alpha Bank? What was the "product" the "mail application" was "marketing" and for whom? Was all communications encrypted?
     
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    Okay, so none of the indictments against Manafort or Cohen were for Muh Rushan Clooshun. They were all for unrelated crimes committed in their past, which were precipitated by the fishing license Mueller was granted based on baseless illegal investigations.

    You don't seem to be able to tell the difference here. Such a shame.
     
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    You'll need to ask them. Maybe the third party marketing firm was doing work for a Russian bank. Has nothing to do with Trump.

    Your side has the burden of proof, by the way. Why don't YOU tell US?
     
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    Well DUH but the fact remains he was indicted and now has been arraigned as opposed to your statements he would not be indicted. Your prediction record is not so good you know.
     
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    No way that can be conclusively stated if the data exchanges were encrypted.
     
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    I'm talking reality not your fantasy. Has there been any announcement it is over or ending and this is it as far as any indictments?
     
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    Cool story, thanks for sharing your wishful thinking with everyone, and we are all more enlightened for it.
     
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    So opposition research with the Russians wouldn’t be considered collusion. Good deal, how’s the weather in your alternate universe?
     
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    That, too, is inaccurate. Again, go read the indictment, dude.
     
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    All I've seen is communicating.... I haven't seen anything about "tons of data"...

    Mueller completely passed on this, as did the FBI before him.... The Senate report referred to the communications, but said their investigation could find nothing more.

    At this point, nobody is denying or confirming the servers were or were not communicating... this is simply he said/he said about representation during the original meeting...

    If Sussmann was representing the Tech Guy in the Sept meeting and said otherwise, that's a complete mystery to me, since I don't think there would be anything illegal in determining that information...

    Way too early to speculate on much more here...
     
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    Your speculations are amusing...

    The weather is nice here on Earth, although a little humid today...
     
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    None of those had anything to do with Mueller core issue, collusion with the Russians to influence the election. They were charges OUTSIDE of that and nothing to do with Trump or the campaign. Even the campaign finance of the Cohen/Daniels NDA were all Cohen's doings the rest his personal business.

    The two indictments so far by Durham are specifically to do with what he is charged to investigate.

    BIG difference.
     
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    Oh, so you’re not going to speculate, after four years of speculation over Russian super secret KGB agents lurking around every corner. That’s cool.
     
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    Strange we aren’t hearing from the usual suspects about the cost of this investigation lol
     
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    They seem to be stumped by investigators that aren’t fishing expeditions.
     
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    You can’t lie to the fbi.
    And yes you’re a fool if you talk to them without a lawyer.
     
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    I just noodled through the indictment.... it's wilder than I thought.... Not only is Durham claiming the guy "acted on behalf" of the Tech Guy in the meeting (he possibly did, which is a possible lie), he was also acting on behalf of the Clinton Campaign because some of the work he did that year was lumped in with his firms billing to the campaign....

    Huge reach there.... Best of luck John...
     
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    Sure you can.... If you have somebody willing to pardon you later on...

    Does a lawyer voluntarily talking to the FBI at his behest without another lawyer present qualify??

    Probably...
     
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    It wasn’t “made up” but it wasn’t anything nefarious either, at least it doesn’t seem to be. Was he indicted for lying about these servers?
     
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    Which democrat appointed Mueller?
     
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    If the data was never decrypted or apparently not successfully investigated, how do you know what the communications were, dude? An indictment is enough actual proof to bring a case forward, if the "communications" were never decrypted successfully, then we don't know who, what or why? Regardless, during the Trump campaign, Alpha Bank and the Trump Tower server were communicating quite deliberately, this we know as a certainty.
     
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    The communications weren't between Trump and Russia. Read the indictment again, dude. Then get back to me when you understand the facts.

    You're off in imaginary leftist land. The Alpha Bank accusations were long ago debunked.
     
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