Durham loses again in court, but trial airs FBI flaws

Please bear in mind that determining whether Putin's conspiring to help Trump and hurt Clinton in the 2016 U.S. presidential election (as confirmed by two Republican-controlled Senate investigative committees) involved active collaboration between Putin and Trump was a Republican undertaking. Trump's Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein appointed Republican Mueller to serve as special counsel for the Trump Administration Department of Justice. Mueller oversaw the investigation into "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign, and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation".

Mueller's appointment to oversee the investigation immediately garnered widespread support from Republicans. Newt Gingrich stated via Twitter that "Robert Mueller is a superb choice to be special counsel. His reputation is impeccable for honesty and integrity."

 

Here’s the problem you have with your statement BG. This trial, the same as the last one show that what you say is not true. You and yours are on the double negative train, and cant figure out a way to get off of it. This trial proved that….

 

Very very very well said.

It’s as simple as this:
Trump gave the Russians their internal polling data which was proven. The only reason they weren’t charged (per Mueller) was that Mueller had no way to prove that that specific data was used in the Russian influence/disinformation campaign. It is literally that simple.

 

When the jury is drawn from an area which voted DNC by 80% what do you expect?

 

What FBI agent?

The 12 months probation and 400 hours of community service was the sentence for a former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith after he pleaded guilty to altering an email used to obtain the renewal of the long-syanding FISA warrant on Carter Page.

Michael Sussmann, a cybersecurity lawyer with links to the Hillary Clinton campaign was acquitted of lying to the FBI.

And now the latest, Igor Danchenko, a Russian policy researcher, has been acquitted on four felony false-statement charges.

This is not "dual justice," whatever that is. This is failure on Durham's part to find any actual crimes committed by the people Trump wanted behind bars, just for spite.

 

Are Putin's own words not enough to convince you?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/putin-trump-win-election-2016-722486

Why won't the righties on this forum look things up before posting?

 

Innocent, or partisans you employ? Kind of a stark distinction...

 

Historical revisionism isn't your forte... You should let other more qualified folks try on your behalf...

 

It ABSOLUTELY was. You may want to read the FULL Mueller report. He absolutely says that they DID effect the election. And he testified in court that they did it to benefit of Donald J Trump

 

I'm saying that according to the actual law, none of Durham's targets committed any crimes aside from the one former FBI lawyer who pleaded guilty. The acquitals were handed down by juries. Are you claiming that the jurors were all in on it?

Trump demanded the Durham probe, Billy the Bagman complied and assigned it to Durham, and after three and a half years of resources being thrown at it, the probe has come up empty. If you think the Durham probe was rigged, there's a Conspiracy Theory forum on this website.

 

Now you're just parroting Trump.

The Durham probe IS a full investigation, by the Justice Department, launched at Trump's insistence. Congressional Republicans had a majority in both chambers during Trump's administration, so why didn't they do then what you're asking for now?

 

Obviously, you cannot refute a single fact that I posted.

Hyper-partisans rage, but it was an investigation by a Republican special counsel appointed by a Republican Deputy Attorney General under a Republican administration.

Republicans like Trump adviser Bannon were suspicious that there was treason afoot.

“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government
inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor – with no lawyers.
They didn’t have any lawyers. Even if you thought that this was not treasonous,
or unpatriotic, or bad sh!t, and I happen to think it’s all of that,
you should have called the FBI immediately.”​

 

in case you are not aware, trump has done a lucrative business with russian mobsters for decades, going back to 1980, its simply an advantage for putan
to have a divided America, and a majority of americans believe donald to be divisive, rightly or wrongly

 

And yet, they've dismissed, even trashed, his very detailed report, claiming that there were no crimes detailed in the report, that the report exonerated Trump, even after Mueller stated on several occasions that it did no such thing.

Newt and the rest of them should file that under "careful what you wish for."

 

Partisan? Wasn’t it the trump admin paying Igor the last couple years?

 

A perfect description of the Orange Stain ! And by one of his sycophants, no less !

 

Congratulations! I just knew that someone would try to sully the jurors. FYI, juries are not chosen by one side, but by both.

You are now officially a World Class Trump apologist.

 

Now you have to turn to TRUMP.

Yes the Durham investigation has exposed what really happened in the Russiagate false narrative and it is devastating to the DOJ and FBI and showed one of the most despicable political schemes in our history.

 

What double negative? Clearly the information that was given to the FBI was fraudulent, and more to the point they discovered that it was fraudulent and instead of I don't know, stopping the investigation at that point they continued on with it. Thus at the very minimum, accepting the fraud if not outright participating in it.

Just because a jury declares someone not guilty, doesn't mean they're not guilty. I hate using that argument, but since Liberals use it they can enjoy the same argument. The jury ruled incorrectly in this and the other case.

 

The acquittals because Durham proved the FBI knew the in formation was false so technically Danchenko didn't lie the FBI was in on it. If you think the 2016 election wasn't rigged by collusion between the Clinton Campaign, the FBI, the DOJ and Russians you haven't been paying attention to what Durham has disclosed in his filings. What this trial proved was that they were in on it so Danchenko wasn't lying to them.

 

"The lie doesn't matter" is what one juror said in Washington for example. I've always hated the jury system, in cases separate to this one. This case, due to its nefarious nature is even worse. You see, corrupt behavior is okay if we get other people to agree that it's okay or that it doesn't matter.

We need something other than the jury system because it will impact other court cases than this one.

 

No it didn't show that not true it showed the false narrative that had been created by the Clinton campaign and Steele and Danchenko and then presented to the FBI. The jury didn't believe Danchenko was lying because Durham's own witnesses testified the FBI and DOJ knew it was false anyway. They were in on it. The fact that the entire Russia collusion story was a fake scheme to effect the election has been proven beyond dispute and that all those parties were in on it.

Do you NOT have any problems or concerns about what went between the Clinton campaign and those at the DOJ and FBI and that also extends to the MSM with this totally false story they created?

 

Playing Devil's advocate, what would you think a prosecutor could have charged Manafort for for doing that? Colluding with Russians during an election should be political death, but I'm not sure I see the crime there?

 

I suspect Garland will have had enough of this dirtbag.... After all, why do you keep somebody in the lineup who cannot even scratch out a single against a drawn-in infield?

This week, we likely have heard the last of John Durham until his retirement papers are put in... he certainly won't be given anything of importance in the DOJ, should he be allowed to stay...

 

Let's not forget what the Durham investigation has turned up


Steele-Dossier Source Igor Danchenko Acquitted, but Stain of FBI Conduct Remains

While the verdict was a blow to Durham, far more consequential was the prosecution’s proof of egregious misconduct on the part of the bureau.

....From a public-interest standpoint, far more consequential was the prosecution’s proof of egregious misconduct on the part of the FBI in “Crossfire Hurricane” (the bureau’s codename for the Trump-Russia investigation). I discussed that in more detail here and here.

Clearly, Durham’s four-year investigation has concluded that the claim that Trump colluded with the Kremlin was a political smear concocted by the Hillary Clinton campaign, and that the FBI was a willing collaborator in peddling it, including to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in four sworn applications — between October 2016 and June 2017 — that were predicated in substantial part on the “dossier” compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele, with Danchenko’s assistance.

Steele’s work was sponsored by the Clinton campaign through two intermediaries — Clinton’s lawyer Marc Elias hired the information firm Fusion GPS, which in turn retained Steele, who recruited Danchenko. The FBI knew that Steele was virulently anti-Trump, and that his faux intelligence reports were unverified political-opposition research. Bombshell evidence in the trial established that the bureau offered to pay Steele $1 million if he could prove his outlandish anti-Trump allegations, but he could not. Nevertheless, the FBI relied on Steele’s claims in applying under oath for surveillance warrants from the FISC.

It was not until after the FBI twice relied on the Steele dossier to obtain FISC surveillance warrants that the bureau finally interviewed Danchenko. Although he told the interviewing agents that Steele’s information was bogus, the FBI withheld the substance of Danchenko’s interview from the Department of Justice unit that oversees FISC applications, and from the FISC itself — in violation of federal rules that: (a) information must be verified before being brought to the FISC; and (b) if the FBI discovers that information it has provided is inaccurate or unreliable, it must promptly notify the FISC. To the contrary, the FBI relied on the Steele dossier in two additional sworn applications even after interviewing Danchenko....
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022...gn=header&utm_content=popular&utm_term=fourth

It will be a blow to the Constitution our laws and our elections if the officials who participated in the scheme are not held accountable.