'Education, education, education!'

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Teacher shortages in England, spending watchdog confirms"

    It isn't a question of too few teachers, it about too many pupils, and for many of them English isn't their first language - meaning teachers have to spend time making them understand whilst other pupils sit twiddling their thumbs waiting for the lesson to resume.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35531982
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That’s certainly part of the problem but it runs much wider and deeper than that.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It probably does, one of them being that teachers become thoroughly fed up with it (and who wouldn't?), and leave the profession. And I trust I don't need to mention that the other kids in that notional classroom will have undergone a severe denial of their education, and the consequent lower results in their examinations, thereby adversely affecting their own life chances? And all that just because one kid couldn't speak English! Ah the joys of multiculturalism eh?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not really, no. Multiculturalism doesn’t require inability to speak English and inability to speak English doesn’t require multiculturalism. Multiculturalism doesn’t really mean anything and is sued to refer to all sorts of different things.

    The idea that a vague concept like this is the reason for the failure of some people and institutions is lazy politicking and demonstrates zero interest in addressing real problems with real solutions. If you just want to rant about generic concepts that you want to blame for all the ills in the world though, I’ll leave you to it.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [​IMG] Touched a nerve, have I? [​IMG]
     
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    same thing has been happening in many areas of the U.S.
    it has pushed up education costs, caused a deterioration in the quality of education in general

    These effects have gone largely ignored by the public, the school administrators just demand more funding, most public universities are raising tuition rates to help compensate for the increased student burden (only making it harder for families to afford university for their children).

    This is just not sustainable. For years I have been thinking this is eventually going to lead to disaster. You can not just add such a large student population into the schools and not have the funding for it. It comes down to the much deeper issue of there not being enough good paying jobs for all these additional people being added to the population. Europeans think they can just add huge numbers of people to their population and expect everything will continue the same as before. So what you will have is more people, but less money for each person = basically a decrease in the overall standard of living. And people will wonder why government services are not as good as they used to be. It's not just education
     
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    It isn't really education if they are not getting an education--it is babysitting.

    Personally I think classroom instruction is largely wasted on most students because the desire to learn is been thoroughly destroyed at an early age
     

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