It had been found out that a young person with an education comes out of college ready to contribute as almost as much as an older person who has over a decade of experience. The added benefit is they cost less and have less attitude. The point is experience is no longer a benefit for employers. And rightfully so.
And I don't buy it. I also don't equate degreed with educated. Aside from union goons, most workers have, in my experience a good attitude. There is a saying that some people have ten years of experience and others have one years experience ten times. I can agree with that, too. I found the worst attitudes were found with young college graduates raised in single-parent homes. I think they're the ones who came up with the concept of "underemployed". That's when nobody will hire you for the job you want at the salary you want, even though you're really, really special. I frequently agree with you, IJustSayin, but this time we disagree.
I disagree, for certain things experience is necessary. But, for most things education is necessary. If I was an employer I would look for people with an education and experience. Both are important.
You ever see that movie "In Good Company" with Dennis Quaid? It's a great movie and lays out a very realistic senario. The aging marketing director suddenly has a new boss who's about 20 years old who has his own boss who's very young too. These young whipper-snappers seem to be running circles around the older man with their youthful energy and it seems that the "dinosaur" can't keep up. Well, the company changes management, twice, and through the shuffle, experience rises to the top. When the only thing that can save the department is to land a big account, suddenly the older man's knowledge of the industry is the only anchor that can save the day. Experience does matter and employers do look for experience.
College is a great asset if you have character in the first place. Work habits and work ethic and attitude have huge value for most companies. Unfortunately....there are a good number of college kids went to college for the beer parties or because mommy and daddy expected them too. And don't tell me it ain't so.....I was there and I know. I also didn't hire many a college kid because they didn't feel like they should do some things beneath their dignity. College kids need to understand they have entry level jobs like anybody else. And I sat by a couple of college grads who didn't know that the United States broke off from England. They thought it might have been Spain but they weren't sure. Seriously...I almost cried. College will get you into some professions that demand it. But most professions don't.....these businesses are looking for an employee that is an asset.
Completely untrue statement. I would love to see "It has been found" backed up by anything. For those of us who actually work for a living, we all know the truth of this. Any of us in the working world (especially engineering) has seen the recent folly of HR departments thinking that 6 or 7 entry level people equal one senior level person. Always looks good on paper, never seems to work out in real life. You just wind up with 6 people running around depserately trying to "appear" that they know what they are doing... when they clearly do not. Even in my field of engineering, college education is just the first step. Understand that college grad engineers are paid the salaries that they are, not because of what they know, but what their college degrees show they will be capable of knowing. This is basically the same intellegence vs. wisdom debate that comes into the forum from time to time. Intellegence is present from birth, it can be honed, and improved through more education. But only wisdom which much be gained through time can bring a person to their full potential. Sort of like self confidence. Only through years of looking at, and solving problems, does a person gain the self confidence to tackle ever larger projects. There are no short cuts for wisdom.... only time can grant you that....
We're probably reaching a time where experience won't matter and you will have to go back to further education multiple times throughout your life just to be retrained in your job due to technological changes that experience just won't let you keep up with.
Not likely, As an employer, I would hire someone who has sound employment history. As well as established a good work ethic, has a record of capabilities, successes, and track record of production. I would never hire on chance, and get stuck with a loser who has no record or reference of performance other than letters of recommendations from friends or teachers. Also, they might be one of those malingerers who do a law suit or worker's comp move on me or my company. The the Ideal candidate for any of my jobs will have education to meet the qualification, but more importantly, show the ability and skills for leadership, with a track record of success, positive productivity, and a history of accelleration in their field. Military experience and ledership in the military is a big plus. Why, because to succed in the military one needs good work ethic, and the ability to perform under pressure and adverse conditions and make sound decisions and be held to account for their actions. I refuse to hire losers who are there only for a paycheck and are to themselves. Teamwork and history of functioning in a team is crucial. If you have no work history, and you live in the USA, get a teaching degree, and you will have no competition getting hired. Because your schooling and education is all you have, and that is what teaching is all about. It's a real world and rat race out there. Employers want someone who will Man/woman up and perform in the real world. There is no security, no safety, and no structure in the real work environment. People out here in the real world do not work like it is a classroom. No safety, no security, no structure, and no privilage to do as you please. To make it you got to go beyond your comfort zone, beyond your little sheltered safe environment, and be creative in getting a job. And take any job to start. A real vita/resume will show how you progressed, and what you accomplished. If you lack that than you need to start doing it. Try to qualify for the military, or take a job in agriculture and work your way up. Just move out of the house and see if you can survive in the real world outside the safety/security/privilage of your parents. The other option is to use your parents connections and influence and privilage your way to the top. Kiss some butt to the wealthy and stab others in the back to get a job.
Long gone are the days of getting a job and working it for 30+ years to retirement. Long gone are the days of holding the same position for 10+ years and doing the same old stuff for a paycheck. Today, in the global market, workers in the USA are competing with workers from around the globe. Why? because that is where the competition is. The Corporations of technology, production, manufacturing, agriculture, science and labor is all on a global scale. Each emerging country like Brazil, China, India, Russa, all compete for the best of the best in technology, manufacturing, agreculture, science, and medicine. In this global interconnected world, the education systems of the emerging countries are based on teamwork within their countries and strive to compete with the rest of the world. In addition, they compete within themselves to push harder to go beyond their cognitive and creative limits. Thses are the things th USA lacks. Why, because, public shcools in the USA cost over 10x to operate, and are based on individuality, and blaming other countries for the issues/problems of the USA. In addition, American culture breeds consumerism by broadcast media, complacency by school standards, and self righteousness via religion. As a result, Americans can't compete with the other countries as Americans have no sense of teamwork, lack leadership skills, and feel they are privilaged and moraly superior than others. Like trying to teach the taliban that terrorism is bad. With these two contrasting styles of education you can bet that the American will be out classed by the student who is competitive, and worked in a team environment from early development. Rather than focusing on the success of Americans past, the competion student focuses on the future success of their country, as well as themselves. Also, Complacency in the workplace is long gone. With the bad economy, corporations have developed more efficent ways to produce. In the USA corporations have incorporated forigen workers and technologies of production to cut on cost and improve on production. As a result, a smaller work force with more skilled workers. As I stated, the old timer who could only work the lathe and can't work the CNC is out of a job. However, the old timer who adapeted and succeded in learning the CNC is still on the job. Same goes for science. If you go to any university or science lab in the USA what you will see are forigen people working there, most have accents and English is their second language. Why, because corporations want the best of the best from the world, and the USA is less than 15% of the world. So there you have it. Gone are the days of old where one thinks they can get a job out of school and keep it for the rest of their lives. The world is changing at a rapid pace faster than a generation can keep up with. My suggestion to all you wanna be workers is: 1) Take any job, and set up your logh term goals. You must always have a goal for shot term and long term. 2) Start saving for retirement. Because you may never get a job that pays retirement unless you qualify for government work State or Federal. Or you may never hold a job long enough that has a retirement plan. 3) Always ask for a promotion or to accell in your job, and always strive to accell, and use your experience to get a better job. 4) Always move on if your current job can't offer you room for improvement. 5) Always continue to update your vita/resume with your new jobs and expreiences. 6) Always seek employment even if you are working at a job you like. Because someting better will come along. And complacency will destroy your history of employment. So there you have it. This is the formula for future success in the USA. School/college was the easy part. The rest of life is the real challange. If you stick to this plan you will acheive your goals, make more money, and succeed in life as well as employment. You will enjoy life more, and you might even retire at 55 with a lot of money if you are smart with your money. Remember, it is not how much a person makes that measures a man or woman, it is how much the perosn has. Always buy a auto cash, avoid any loans. If you can't afford to pay for a decent reliable auto cash, than you can't afford it. If you can pay cash for a house in this economy do it. Never pay the bank $250,000 for a home in 30 years that you can pay $112,000 for today. And no, this is not Suzie Orman.
And that's exactly why experience alone doesn't produce the RESULTS. NIn today's times the RESULTS an experienced person has is almost identical as the RESULTS of the brand new college grad. So the knowledge is far superior to the college grad but people aren't realizing the RESULTS are close. So there is really no incentive to justify experience anymore. Sad thing is the same thing will happen to the college grad at some point. So I agree that without getting updated by going back to school every few years and not just going to seminars and getting one day orientations that were so popular before workers will not have a chance at competing. I just sayin.
