Election Predictions....

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by JIMV, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    We'll see what comes of things.
     
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    Lol, we're talking about things that have happened. I've presented the facts to you in detail.
     
  3. JIMV

    JIMV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And yet the dems are going to take a pasting in few weeks...
     
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    $(KGrHqN,!nUE8VKGUpEuBPM0sL!w+w~~60_35.JPG Read between the lines Amerika
     
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    The airy-fairy notions of Angry White Guys have fared marvelously in the realm of entertainment, but their leaders are media bloviators, potboiler fiction writers, and chronic malcontents, not realists, Sammy Brownback and his disastrous Red State Model ("My focus is to create a red-state model that allows the Republican ticket to say, ' See, we've got a different way, and it works,' ") being a conspicuous and revelatory exception.)

    The 114th Congress, if Repubs are accorded control of both chambers, will resemble a sack of rabid tom cats - a spectacle of sound and fury accomplishing nothing.

    ... and the strident ululations of all the media gasbags and the anonymous backing of all the corporate elites' moneybags will not keep them on life support after 2016.
     
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    Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom, as the sig says ;)

    Equal pay? Nobody ever paid into that, except perhaps the unions. As for social security, I'm willing to settle on everyone's lifetime contributions being paid to them in full, then the program's abolition. How kind I am.
     
  8. JIMV

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    A late response...Medicaid is not an earned and contributed to right but instead is welfare. The remaining two are simply ideas codified into law and again have nothing to do with contributions as you stated..."benefits people have worked so hard for all of their life and have earned"

    Very poor grasp of our programs
     
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    The "kind" that only Republicans could really love. All others Beware. :rolleyes:
     
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    So, people should not work and have deductions taken out for Social Security, etc. anymore or pay their taxes for those programs according to you. We well understand your errant position. But the ones truly 'grasping' for these programs are the Middle Class and the poor mainly because once Republicans take full control of Congress they can just as well kiss GOODBYE to all of those and many other programs Republicans could well do away with or severely CUT at the blink of an eye. Let's face it, unless you are rich, quite well-to-do, you are going to get thrown under the bus if Republicans take the U.S. Senate. Don't believe it? Just wait and SEE! And folks, when you see your benefits eroding don't come crying afterward saying you weren't warned.
     
  12. JIMV

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    Most of the folk on Medcaid are not paying anything serious in taxes, look up program eligibility. The rest is simply opinion pretending to be accepted facts...
     
  13. misterveritis

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    This is an interesting list. Social security and Medicare are Ponzi schemes. They are going broke. It would be best to stop deluding the people, stop taking their money and encourage them to put that money into a retirement they own.

    How does one earn equal pay? What does this mean to you?
    When you say equal rights what do you mean?
    And how does one earn vital services? What are these vital services? How many are Constitutional?

    The Democratic Party is the party of big government and dependency. Based on your list you are confirming it.
     
  14. JIMV

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    Yes, I think you are correct overall.
     
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    Based on recent history, I believe the Republicans will pick up a few seats. What they do pick up will be well below their own current expectations. The Republicans will throw big parties and CLAIM victory, but that will be the extent of it.

    Not that it matters. This congress has done nothing. The next one will be a carbon copy. In 2016, the the bullet will hit the bone.
     
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    Wishful thinking on your part. The Rs will end up with 51-52.

    The "do nothing senate," mostly Reid, has blocked the many good bills that congress has passed.

    You libs continue to have problems with facts.
     
  18. JIMV

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    I expect to hears the old standbys.."It is Bush's fault" coupled with the mandatory cries of 'racist, sexist, homophobe'...The usual throw away lines....
     
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    It is not dependency at all. It is receiving in return what you have paid in with your taxes through your hard work for many years that you deserve to receive in return when in your golden years from Social Security and Medicare as it was well structured to provide.

    As for the other things listed, let me ask you this:

    Are you willing, at this moment, to forgo and reject Social Security benefits whether you are eligible for them or not? That is, would you be willing to write a letter to the U.S. Government telling them that you do not believe in the way that program is structured therefore you also do not believe you are entitled to receive nor do you want to receive what they would be paying you from it and are therefore authorizing them to not ever pay you one cent from Social Security and that the government can keep that money for better things? Yes or No?

    The same goes for Medicare. Would you be willing to write the U.S. Government and tell them that you do not want Medicare benefits when you become eligible for it, if you are not already, and that you simply prefer to pay all of your own bills either by yourself or through another insurance program until you die for all of the current and future expenses that you would incur? Yes or No? (I believe Medicare gives you that option already provided you have other insurance but you have to reject it formally to my understanding.)

    Now remembering that it is easy to say "Yes" to this on a forum, would you provide a letter signed and dated that can prove you actually rejected both Social Security and Medicare in order for us to believe that you actually did so and were truthful to your beliefs? Yes or No?

    Equal Pay is paying EVERYONE equally. That is, women and others get absolutely the SAME pay as men do for the same type of work right away with no discrepancies. Are you in favor of and would you support that? Yes or No?

    Equal Rights means rights for Everyone as guaranteed under the Fourth Amendment. No longer just for the select few or for the majority. FULL Rights for LGBT citizens to marry another adult person whom they love; the right for them to choose where they want to live without discrimination; the right for them to work where they choose without fear of being fired because they are Gay or Lesbian, etc. Are you for that? Yes or No?

    Vital Services are services that are necessary to life. One should not have to struggle with difficulty in order to obtain them. Clean, unpolluted Water to drink; Cleaner Air to breathe without toxic air pollution from big manufacturing plants that the government gives a free pass to in order for them to continue to pollute the environment, etc.; Retaining the Department of Education, etc. The list goes on. Are you in favor of these things? Yes or No?

    You should be able to answer these very simple questions if indeed you are so adamant that Democrats who value all of these things and fight for these things are on the wrong side of the track and that you and your side, as the opposition, don't believe they have any benefit or value and would rather do without them as is the position of those on the right.
     
  20. misterveritis

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    Do you know what a ponzi scheme is?

    As for the other things listed, let me ask you this:

    Yes. Give me back what I paid in. It was coerced from me. It was my money. So give it back and I will be responsible for me. Equally important stop making more victims. Stop today. Take no more money.

    Give me the money that was forcibly taken. I won't even press charges.

    Same here. Give me back what I have paid in. I won't even press charges.

    When the government sends me the check for everything I have paid in I will gladly sign away any future claims.

    No. One gets paid based upon the value they create for their employer. Even marxism rejects your silly notion. I earn what I earn and you earn what you earn based on how much wealth we create for our employers. If you want more then become worth more.

    No to your statement. I believe that people have the right to decide what rules they will live by.

    Here is the 4th. What does it have to do with your statement?
    AMENDMENT IV

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.​

    I not only support this. It is the law. So the criminals directing the NSA and the other intelligence agencies need some serious prison time.

    No. Your statement is a grab bag. Everything has a cost. Adults make tradeoffs. Some things are unconstitutional. There is no provision for a federal education department. It is simply a money laundering scheme that takes money from the productive to fund liberalism's utopian dreams.

    They were simple enough to answer. They are all based on the fuzzy-thinking engendered by youth and liberalism. Perhaps you will age out of both.
     
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    If I want the services you mentioned abolished, why would I support the Republicans? With the exception of equal pay they're pretty much on par with the Democrats. Maybe 5% lower taxes, maybe some future measures will be shot down, but the GOP establishment has no interest in fiscal conservatism.
     
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    this is your brain on drugs
     
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    Do you drink Dos XXX , because your are the most perfect human on this planet . We must all bow to the anointed one . Can you also part waters ? Dam your amazing , we should all knell before the anointed one . Your initials aren't AH are they ?
     
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    Sodium pentathol.

    Obviously, you cannot deny the conspicuous failure of Sam the Sham's touted Red State Model, or disguise the widely-acknowledged discord in the GOP ranks.
     
  25. JIMV

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    I consider discord in the ranks healthy and proof that contrary to the monolithic left, the right does have folk who think for themselves...
     

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