End the Scourge of White Supremacy

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by George Bailey, Jun 10, 2020.

  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for establishing that the content of your post was intended as race baiting.
     
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    If Sth Africa winds up like Zimbabwe it will be nothing more than a collection of
    tribes, all fighting each other. Democracy will be farcical because people will just
    vote for their tribes. And not only whites, but Indians and Chinese will be driven
    out of the country.
    And where will the "anti apartheid protestors" be? Busy finding some other white
    injustice.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Supposition and conjecture WITHOUT any shred of substantiation is nothing but your OPINION and does NOT address the request to provide CREDIBLE EVIDENCE.
     
  4. Iranian Monitor

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    As I mentioned, it is quite the same in Iran. And not surprisingly so, as countries which were important centers of more ancient civilizations, will show more diversity and diverse contacts than those who more recently have gone through the process and still experiencing their growing pains in the process. Or those who have been outside those centers and have not had the same degree of interaction as a result.

    This chart from an article in Discover magazine focuses on a few nationalities -- and the colors used basically gives you a sense regarding the genetic variety and backgrounds of different people in Europe and Southwest Asia. Sometimes, those nations which are most fierce in their antagonisms and such, have the most common genetic heritage otherwise. For instance, while the "Bedouin Arabs" (considered more representative of "real Arabs") have a sufficiently distinguishable genetic background compared to Iranians, most people in Iraq and Syria have very similar genetic maps as the people in Iran (and, more broadly, to the other peoples around the region, including the Armenians, Turks and Greeks). This despite the huge cultural divide between Persians and "Arabs". Similarly, while the relationship between the people of Turkey and the Armenians and Greeks have been quite troubled to say the least, as I understand it, the Armenians and Greeks are ultimately more similar overall in their genetic distribution to the people of Turkey (and to a slightly lesser extent Iran) than they are to practically anyone else.

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  5. a better world

    a better world Well-Known Member

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    1. "the (unknowing) Left, like the Right, are happy to steal the best and brightest from overseas. It's immoral: ALL countries need to succeeed.
    2. Trump (correctly) wants to build a wall to keep poverty-stricken 'immigrants' OUT. Bernie agrees with him, unlike some of the unknowing left whose hearts are in the right place but not their heads; they don't realise that in our broken world with more people living in poverty than the entire population of the US, an open border policy would be disastrous for the US...and any 1st world nation. (Overseas poverty requires international oversight at World bank level, that's another story).
    3. Please explain why the left would want "to import millions of poor third world souls that will come to America and live in poverty". other than for the impracticable moral reason I cited above.

    See how empty your argument is, all designed to avoid dealing with the issue of poverty.

    Especially in the US, the richest nation on the planet. Poverty elimination in the US would be a simple task requiring minor changes to treasury and central bank rules. The neoliberal system that channels resources to the top has sucked you in, to your own and the US's social harmony and economic detriment ...
     
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    No, we need to ditch the indifferent centre, the centre that tolerates poverty and incarceration rates overwhelming affecting blacks in the US and Australia.

    The "centre", regardless of political colour, stands to be condemned. Both the US and Australia are rich enough to end ALL poverty within a decade.

    The actual problem is the obsolete neoliberal, bankster-funded economic system which remorselessly channels resources to the top.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Racism is never strictly about race. African American tensions with South Koreans in some cities
    is more about economics - the Koreans now own businesses that other minorities sold off as they
    moved up the socio-eco ladder.
    Even attacks on Jews is never exactly racist.
    In Sth Africa there's the usual tension between Zulu and Xhosa, locals against immigrants, para-
    military against white farmers etc..
    I know quite a few Europeans who left Sth Africa due to crime and fading opportunities. Some of
    their stories have stunned me.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for establishing that all you have is hearsay and cannot provide any actual credible substantiation.
     
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    'We are a target': wave of xenophobic attacks sweeps ...
    www.theguardian.com › world › sep › we-are-a-target-wave-of-xeno...

    Sep 10, 2019 - Migrants in South Africa's commercial capital face looting, violence and ... 'We are a target': wave of xenophobic attacks sweeps Johannesburg.

    South African Riots Kill Five and Spur Cries of Xenophobia ...
    www.nytimes.com › World › Africa

    Sep 3, 2019 - The violence in Johannesburg appeared to target shops owned by ... had blamed immigrants for the country's problems, leading to the attacks.

    Opinion | What's Behind the Deadly Violence in South Africa ...
    www.nytimes.com › opinion › south-africa-xenophobia-attacks

    Sep 16, 2019 - The attacks on immigrants are neither irrational nor spontaneous. ... JOHANNESBURG — The past few weeks in South Africa have been ...

    Why do South Africans blame immigrants? - The Washington ...
    www.washingtonpost.com › politics › 2019/09/09 › whats-behind-south...

    Sep 9, 2019 - In Pretoria and Johannesburg, there's been xenophobic violence and ... round of attacks on foreign nationals in South Africa, anti-migrant riots ...

    South Africa's xenophobic attacks: Why migrants won't be ...
    www.bbc.com › news › uk-wales-49797720

    Sep 26, 2019 - On the vast, rapidly urbanising plains east of South Africa's commercial capital Johannesburg, the sporadic but grotesque violence of recent ...


     
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    The content of my post was to highlight your race baiting. I didn't just pick a name and throw it up there. Just Google any of those cities listed and research the quality of their education system, violent crime, economic base and population loss. We can all do better but it has to start in the communities involved. I seen the destruction of my city (Detroit) and it still hasn't recovered. I still have relatives who live there and even stayed in the city. The majority of my neighborhood was destroyed and abandoned. The leaders raped the city so bad that one of my sisters had to take a major haircut on her city pension and benefits. I left for a better life for my family. I now live in what I consider a very diverse city of mixed neighborhoods. The standard of living is average to above.

    2020 so far.

    Chicago: Shootings - 1,260 (The majority black involved)
    Homicides - 256 (How many names have been important enough to cause protests and riots ?)
    Blacks killed by police - 3

    USA: Police killings

    White - 172
    Black - 89
     
  11. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for CONFIRMING that the content of your post was intended as race baiting.
     
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    Oh Yeah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your good at the one liners. It's easy to vilify when you don't know what the hell your talking about. I don't think your good at solutions though. You really can't be a liberal if your brain is shut off to all forms of descent. It's not the guy who hollers the loudest that is right but usually the one who has nothing useful to say.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    :roflol:

    Astounding amount of PROJECTION in that content!

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    On the U.S. census, there is no Middle-Eastern or Arabic "race". Immigrants from the Middle East are counted as "White". I understand that they have been trying unsuccessfully to add a new census category for themselves, as they could get more benefits as an under-served minority group.
     
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    Nice string of posts. But your competitor clearly has zero interest in the truth.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    If you manage to get yourself under control and up off the floor, could you take a look at Post# 134 please?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Racism is based entirely upon bigotry and lies!
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So now the human race equates to chickens. Perhaps that is why abortion is so easy for you.
    I can. America. We have successful CEO's like Herman Cain. Successful Surgeons like Ben Carson. Outspoken, intelligent pundits like Candace Owens, all who help to build this country in spite of the victim/polarization due to the color of skin portrayed by the statists whose dream is to divide and conquer. Sociologist yypes like to compare human beings to animals in their studies with words such as "tribal instincts" to debase and lower humanity into a "tribal cesspool".

    We are far better than that and examples are laid out for those willing to become responsible citizens and prosper as individuals.
     
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    Not entirely, a lot of racism is based on how people act in manner that is well outside the norms of society. When a person acts more like a rabid animal than a human it is quite normal and not racist to consider that person to be a subhuman species which needs to be caged for the remainder of it's life and in the U.S. we have entire communities filled with such subhumans.
     
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    Thanks for providing Deridio with some "substantial evidence"
    I couldn't be bothered. I have this often here - you give that
    evidence and there's no reply.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Where?
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Strong evidence for the Dunning-Krueger Effect in the content above.
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Creasy has done the job for me. Not that it will make any difference.

    ps, btw
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    Never has never will, he just likes to toss out simple one liners to get attention.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Racist Math is only evidence of Racism, nothing else!
     

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