Energy strategy: UK plans eight new nuclear reactors to boost production

After what happened in Ukraine I doubt many more countries will invest in nuclear. They are rich ripe terrorist targets

 

Geothermal. Which America has nice rich resources of, is cheaper than nuclear, more sustainable, does not have pesky radiation to worry about and does not look like such an inviting terrorist target

I would cheer for geothermal

 

Except Biden's war on the oil & gas industry that predictably resulted in rising gas prices....

 

Biden is so at war with oil and gas that he is positioning the US to replace Russia as Germany's main supplier.

But I guess I'm not telling you anything new...

 

What “war”?

 

That's special. Trump was doing that four years ago.

Meanwhile, back here in the U.S., gas prices remain at record highs...

 

Venezuela's current gas prices

"prices have risen..."?
Their gas price history;

They are going through a tough time refining their oil because we have heavily sanctioned them in an effort to get Maduro out.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellynch/2022/03/24/end-sanctions-on-venezuela/?sh=4fe1c0555727



Has nothing to do with the war in Ukraine.

/eyeroll.

 

A very good idea. We see all these anti-nuclear-power activists did not only caused a degree of global warming that many scientists consider to be critical, but they were also putting Putin into a more compfortable position as Europe depends on Russia's gas and oil.

So stand with the Ukraine, build Nuclear Power plants.

 

I had completely forgotten that the price of gas in Venezuela was subsidized by the socialist government.

Is this a solution you would approve of for the US?

 

The point was that Ukraine has no impact on Venezuela. It's insulated from it. with it's own problems. You seem to be under Biden's guise of "it's all Putin's fault" aren't ya?

 

This is obvious, because the government has frozen prices.

This is a socialist measure.

I know you'd love it if Biden was directly responsible for the rise in gas prices, but virtually every country in the world is affected.

So unfortunately, it's indeed Putin's fault.

 

Maybe they can pipe the steam directly from the nuclear generating facility into people's homes.

This would be like what they did in the old days in many big cities, where they had a central steam boiler and the city would pipe that steam out to apartment blocks in the neighborhood.

Only this would probably involve piping the steam longer distances because you can't have a nuclear reactor in the middle of every neighborhood.

The energy loss from a steam pipe would still be less than the efficiency loss of converting heat to electric power. If you're just going to use that electric power for heat anyway, doesn't make too much sense to convert heat into electricity and then back into heat.

They might need to dig underground tunnels beneath cities to make room for the steam pipes.

 

SA seems to be insulated from the ukraine **** at the pump...

 

You don't do any research before you run a graph here.

As if gas prices have been totally stable in Saudi Arabia for years...

Haven't you realized yet that the Saudi government has frozen the price of oil for its citizens?

 

so insulated then? k

 

Proof? I know! The proof is kept in the vault with the stolen ballots!

 

((((((((((Shudder))))))))

Didn’t you see what Russia came close to doing with those nuclear power plants?

Look apart from Geothermal, which Italy is looking very hard at there is also the renewables revolution which I assure you is coming. land based wind power is already out competing coal and all we need are grid scale batteries. There are two options there + recycle car lithium batteries or build large “flow” batteries either iron or Vanadium. Iron has issues like blowing up but the smart boys have promised that they have, cough, “ironed” the problems out. It is Vanadium that a promise. The only thing holding that back is the scarcity of Vanadium but there are at least two new mines going in near where I live because the industry believes that is the solution

 

I want to like nuclear, I really do. Its just that we keep building reactors on fault lines and in tsunami or hurricane zones and ignoring required maintenance. Nuclear energy is great. The people we put in charge of it seem to be trying really hard to kill us all ...slowly.

 

Gluttonous energy desires negate sensible approaches.

 

Michael Shellenberger was like you, clinging onto renewables. So much so, he convinced Obama to pump billions into renewables.

Then guess what? Shellenberger saw his mistake and champions nuclear as he believes renewables can't save the planet. Renewables swallow up vast areas of land and raw materials compared to one nuclear reactor. How you ever been to a nuclear power station? You can't get close because of security and if you stop at the perimeter fence, security are there in a flash to check you out.



Very interesting video.

 

Awww Bless! A youtube!

What say we look at some actual science

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/03/Summary-for-Policymakers-1.pdf

 

Nukes are a key ingredient in keeping all forms of power centralized and maintaining dependence upon an élite that can operate them, not to mention the vulnerability to the unknown and mal-intentioned.

 

They even occupied the area of Chernobyl at some point, but if they wanna cause a nuclear explosion in the Ukraine they have the ability anyway, with or without that nuclear power plant.

Geothermal plays more a role here in Germany when it comes to heating, less when it comes to power plants. Every conversion from heat to electricity will use only about one third or at best one half of the energy you have primary in form of heat. So for a use of geothermal power for electricity you need a very good location for that purpose to use it effectively in a huge power plant. These sources/locations dont exist here in Germany in that scales we would need it to base our electricity production on it. I doubt that its so different in the UK.

Its of more significance in connection to a heat pump for heating of buildings, households, etc. here.

Wind power is the most important sector here when it comes to electricity. It is however intense when it comes to land consumption and there is a rivalry between the protection of flora and fauna and the production of electricity. Plus the resource consumption you mentioned above for the batteries. The huge advantage of photovoltaic is (given you place it on roofs), you use land which was already taken from nature, so no competition between the protection of nature and electricity, but however, its not quite as cheap as wind power at the moment, at least here.

With nuclear power we have an ideal tool to add to this mix, its dispatchable (which neither of the above is), it consumes a ridiculous small amount of resources and land in comparison to all of the options given above.

So lets show our solidarity with the Ukraine and build nuclear power plants to get independent from Russian gas, oil and coal.

 

You are underestimating geothermal and “hot rock” technology

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-drilling-hot-rocks-provide-geothermal-energy

 

I dont doubt its possible to find some good spots and locations for some geothermal power plants, but I doubt you can rely on that to cover a real huge part of the needs for electricity in countries like UK or Germany. Its different here than in Australia, the US or Canada compared to that our countries are small, but densely populated.

It may be different in countries like Canada, US, Australia, Brazil etc.