Erdogan: "Macron Needs Mental Health Treatment"

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  1. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thus spake the megalomaniac.:oldman:

    Not that I believe in insulting others and especially their religious faith, but it is France, and when in France do as the French do - otherwise leave the country. Why are the Muslims there? It's not as if they are the indigenous people, or that Islam is the indigenous culture?


    What would be funny if it wasn't so tragic, is that Erdogan of all people is condemning Macron for what he said about Islamic extremists, when he was supporting Al Nusra and the genocide of Christians in Syria. But then again, when there is an agenda, there is no rationale, only manipulation.

    So let's see now, what did Macron say in the commemoration of the history teacher Samuel Paty that brought about the wrath of Islam and the boycott of French goods:

    "...Samuel Paty was the victim of a macabre conspiracy of idiocy, of lies, of jumbled ideas, of hate of others, hate of who we are, deeply and existentially.”

    “...was killed because Islamists want our future”, but that France would “not renounce our caricatures...”

    Macron said he will:

    “free Islam in France from the foreign influence and strengthen control on the mosques' funding...”

    "... create new legislation that will create an 'enlightened Islam' in France..."
    I guess freeing Islam from foreign influence and controlling the mosques funding and enlightening Islam, is not to their liking. Is it because it hinders Islam's long term agenda of Sharia law?

    Hey Macron, you're forgetting that Sharia was to your liking in Syria, when it came to going against the secular and tolerant Assad. But then again, when there is an agenda there is no rationale.

     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Muslims can't handle integration. their strict religion doesn't allow them to be in a melting pot culture. For them its DO IT MY WAY OR DIE INFIDEL! when will stupid politicians understand this?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a political agenda in Islam, which means it is not just a faith. I saw a video of an Egyptian Imam saying that if it wasn't a capital offense to leave Islam, it would have ceased to exist. He said it with pride - and that is what shocked me. It didn't matter to him whether people wanted to be Muslims or not. The only thing that mattered was the growth and power of Islam - which makes it akin to nationalism as well as a cult since there isn't any free thought.

    The French teacher's name is Samuel, so I assume he's Jewish, and it's probably why he was killed. Should he have mocked Mohamed by showing the caricature? I don't know, but I wouldn't have done it - not out of fear though, but out of a respect towards others.
     
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    Erdogan and a large part of the muslim world did their choice : they sided with the terrorist murderer.
     
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    Then why do 99.999% of them integrate just fine without any kind of "DO IT MY WAY OR DIE INFIDEL"? Don't worry, that's a rhetorical question. I'm not honestly under the impression that you have a response.
     
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    They are playing the long game. I don't know any Muslims with less than 5 kids. Their plan is to breed, and breed and breed and then take over. The ones not doing the stupid little crimes are the SMART ones. They have ZERO interest in assimilating. Sure you might have ones that act nice and normal and friendly but in the back of their head they are thinking "your days are numbered infidel!"
    I have plenty of them at my work. Guess what I found in the company printer? Someone ( a real "nice" person by the way) printing out some hand out for their mosque that said things like "do not allow your children to accept american culture", "do not allow your children to befriend non-muslims" and so on and so fourth. Do they ALL think this way? i'm sure they don't but your 99.9% number is BS
     
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    Who cares what brown hitler has to think? Shouldn't he be busy helping slaughter Armenians and acting belligerent twords Greece?
     
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    Blind paranoia isn't evidence. As I've shown before, if even a fraction of a percent of Muslims in the US were planning on a terrorist attack at some point during their entire lifetime, we'd be seeing a Muslim terrorist attack every day in this country (hint: that's not happening).

    Meanwhile, if you take the time to actually meet a Muslim, instead of just parroting what you are hearing on Infowars and OAN, you'll find plenty whose children befriend non-Muslims. Sorry, but if you want to show that my 99.9% number is BS, you'll have to actually figure out how to appeal to evidence.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You still got muslims killing people in the name of Islam. When you guys try to point out the same thing about other religions you have to time travel all the way back to the crusades. Something is wrong there. Something is behind the times. Sharia law? are you kidding me? and how do you know who muslim kids hang out with? do you do drive-byes at the playground or something? I may not be able to prove your 99.9% is false but you can't prove it isn't. When in 2020 there are be-headings over someone being offended by a picture, something is wrong there.
     
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    I think Emmanuel finally got a clue what's going on.. let's hope so
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do the Muslims integrate, or are they just living in France as an alien faith and culture. Also, is their long term intent to Islamize France?

    I have heard Muslims say that if they are not in the majority, they consider themselves under persecution. Wouldn't this be a projection of their own beliefs of dhimmitude towards non Muslims in Islamic States? If they now see themselves as being the dhimmis, wouldn't that be an insult towards their Islamic faith, and wouldn't they want to reverse the situation?

    There is also the extreme liberalism of France and the EU in general, which is tolerated by Christians, but not by a faith that follows the laws and not the spirit. Other than that, are they being given in France the opportunity to advance and thereby escape their enclaves?

    Anyway I'm just speculating, I really don't know that much about it.
     
  12. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Crusades got a bad rap because of the culture clash between them and the Christians in the Near and Middle East. The Crusaders intent in going there was not to kill Muslims. They were called by the Pope, because the Emperor of Constantinople asked him to do something to free the Christians - which I assume was in the majority at the time.

    The Turkish conquerors wouldn't allow them to make pilgrimages to the Holy sites - and that was a perquisite at the time. Going to shrines wasn't just to honor a Saint and renew one's faith, they were also for miraculous cures.


    Religious shrines still exist in Eastern Europe, the Balkans and the Near and Middle East, and many are attended by Muslims. (I guess God's not an elitist?) The most popular one is that of Saint George in Lod Israel.

    Most Muslims in Syria are in Assad's army, because they don't want Sharia law imposed on them by the Western backed jihadists.

    Of course something is wrong. During the last provocation and offense towards Mohamed, the Muslims were sweeping the sidewalk in front of a Russian Church to show their respect. What they were doing, would have been in deference to France and the West in general.

    Of course the Muslims shouldn't be taking it out on the Catholic Church. What does the Catholic Church and Christians have to do with what's going on? They have no power in France.


    Anyway, leave it to Erdogan's demogoguery to cause trouble.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess there's a human side to Erdogan. This beautiful 3 year old girl was trapped in her apartment under the earthquake rubble for 91 hours. She's going to be okay, but I wonder if any of her family survived?


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    Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
    @RTErdogan

    Mucizenin adı Ayda... 91 saat sonra senin o gülen gözlerinle birlikte hepimize yeni umutlar bahşeden Allah’a şükürler olsun.

    Geçmiş olsun güzel yavrum...


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    4:21 AM · Nov 3, 2020
     
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    They won't.
    That's why 4 civilians were murdered yesterday by an Islam Jihadiat in Vienna.
     
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    The banks & globalist elites pressure politicians for open borders to grow the banking debt pyramid, because without it our GDP & banks will collapse along with the housing bubbles. This collapse will of course give us more affordable housing but politicians only focus on re-election not what is good for the country.... so grow the debt pyramid is all they know and do.

    The globalists then use the radical left and their media empire to paint any politician who advocate for those people, who would assimilate best to be allowed to immigrate as racist or islamaphobic. ie. accuse them of returning to white Australia migration policies etc.

    This forces politicians into bringing in cultures that directly clash with European culture. The globalists then use these minority groups & their media to smear protest and create havoc whenever their demands are not met... ie BLM, extinction rebellion, climate change.
    The result is what we are witnessing now, and it is going to get much worse.
    The media and banks have a lot to answer for along with the Globalists & Communists. Race and religion are tools for power and control
     
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    Islam isn't a civilizing religion..its barbaric with only idiots being apologists for it.

    Not fit for any civilized people..
     
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    I accept your point. But this won't be for all Muslims - many don't care for their religious upbringing
    and like their compatriots in the Middle East, prefer American culture (think Iranian kids.)
    But yeah, big problem.
    You have nine Christian kids in a class and one Muslim. Those Christian kids have five kids between
    them and the Muslim has five kids. Next generation, a scant 10 or 20 years later and you have five
    Muslim and five Christians in that class.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually Christians and Jews always lived in Muslim countries - but they had to be under Islamic rule - or rather Sunni rule. They were considered Dhimmis, which is a form of slavery and had to pay a tax. In some places the tax was to give up one their sons to become a member of the Sultans guard (Jannissary). This is why births were kept hidden, and why there aren't any baptismal records of Christians in Greece.

    Political and territorial conquest is part of the Islamic faith, and like the militant German tribes in Europe, the Sunnis established themselves as the nobility or elite. Also like the nobility in Europe, the Muslims considered trade and business' below them, so with the exception of a few like the Palestinians, all the work in the Ottoman Empire was done by the Christian Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks and Jews.

    The end result was that the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrian and Jews prospered, and with the exception of the Jews, who the Turks were aligned with as a precaution, it created a lot of resentment between the poor Muslims and the wealthy Christians. It didn't take much for the Sultan and later Attaturk, to arouse the Turks if it was politically expedient, and have them believe that everything the Christians had was at the expense of their own children.

    History as we know, does repeat itself, and like yesterday in Anatolia, the Turks today are told that the Greeks are inhabiting the Aegean islands illegally and that they were stolen from them. Yet according to the Treaty of Lausanne, they were given to the Greek population by Attaturk himself.
     
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    True.
    You forgot to mention that Arab Muslims raped and kidnapped Jewish girls.
     
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    Every time I read one of your OPs I forget that you don't like Turkey anymore :roflol:
     
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    That isn't true VoltreAltesse, Muslim after Muslim was expressing their disappproval of the killing. What they also did was to question why Macron was so keen on free speech concerning what is an anti muslim bait when he is not keen on free speech anywhere else. They also, wherever they were living felt very concerned for Muslims in France.
     
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    The Sultan's days are over.. i hope so.
    Turkey can do fine without it !
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't like Turkey not for what they did in the past, and believe me it was horrific. The first great massacre in history was against my maternal ancestors in 1832. Frankly, I don't even know how they escaped because it was something they never spoke about. What I do know about their atrocities towards the Armenians, Greeks and Christian Assyrians, comes from a book I read written by the American Consul General of Smyrna/Ismir during the massacres and destruction by Attaturk in 1923.

    The Tsar had been overthrown at the time, so the Christians in Turkey were left with no protection. The Bolsheviks who were not Russians and were killing millions of Russian Christians themselves, were probably in cahoots with Attaturk.

    Anyway the problem today is that the Turks have been aroused, and are now showing the same expansionist and genocidal mentality as before. Now I'm not talking about all the Turks, since 20 million are Kurds, and 20 million are Alevis - who are probably the Pontian Greeks who rather than leave Turkey, decided to form a sect and unite it with the Shias. There are also many liberal and Westernized Turks in Istanbul and Izmir.

    Anyway Turkey is ready to attack Greece. The threats are getting worse everyday, and Athens assumes it will be on Christmas day. The Turks make a habit of attacking on religious holidays. The situation today is as ripe as it was when they attacked Cyprus, and grabbed 1/3 of the island and killed thousands in the process.

    At that time Nixon was being impeached and Kissinger who was in charge, was a friend of Turkey's Echevit. Since Greece had been sanctioned over its dictator, it didn't have the supplies to enter the war and to help the Cypriots.

    Today we have a similar political problem because of the election. There is the lockdown imposed by Germany on Greece over Covid, while nations like Germany and Spain bow to Erdogan's demands so they won't lose lose their investments in Turkey. In the meantime the EU is having its own economic problems.
     
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    Right now would be the wrong time for Macron to condemn the caricatures, since it would encourage many Muslims to continue their extremism to gain more rights and/or power depending on what they want. Macron though should have said before the attacks, that the cartoons were insensitive to the feelings of others. What's wrong with having a little civility and respect?
     
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    When the Sultan falls, the next leader - whether it be Erdogan's opposition or Fidan the head of the MIT, will be secular and nationalistic, and history has shown that they can be even more genocidal than the ones under Islam - or at least in Turkey's history. For all of Erdogan's rhetoric and threats, he is somewhat hesitant about attacking Greece and Cyprus directly. The nationalist Turks though won't be so inhibited.

    Regardless, it will be the start of WWIII, and the first nation to disappear from the map will be Turkey.
     

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