Europe To Send Conspiracy Theorists To ‘Reeducation Camps’

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  1. Jack Links

    Jack Links Well-Known Member

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    It's really something isn't it?
    I understand there were jews in Hitler's government. They played both sides. If Germany had won, they'd have made up stories about the Allies. Probably a British holohoax.
     
  2. SamSkwamch

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    You debunked nothing. You have presented zero proof of anything. The 6 million is a deliberate hoax. There were no gassing of humans or an extermination plan. What else is there?
     
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    Good point!
    They just use Marxist Critical Theory. Nitpick and attack every little insignificant thing to get the victim off topic, chasing after them so the audience will lose track of the issues. But, we're bringing their strategy to light, so it's not as effective anymore.
     
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    Yes it really is something that morons still believe that the holocaust didn't happen. Tell us genius what happened to the approximately 5.5 million Jews who disappeared during the World Almanac Census of 1938 and the next one that took place in 1949? Maybe flew off into space?

    - - - Updated - - -

    No that's holocaust denier tactics, we unlike you rely on the entirety of the evidence which clearly shows that between 5 and 6 million Jews were systematically exterminated by the Nazi regime by way of gassing, hanging, shooting, and intentional starvation and exhaustion.
     
  5. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    See? That's the thing now, isn't it? You just keep saying that, but never provide evidence of it. We have an over 70 page thread and no proof of that exists.
     
  6. Ronstar

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    sure there is, you just persistently ignore all evidence presented to you.

    just like how you ignore the evidence from the FBI transcript showing that the shooting started around 2 am.

    just like how you ignore the evidence that 9-11 was not an inside job.
     
  7. SamSkwamch

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    Try to focus, Ron.

    Please post proof of gas chambers or an extermination program.
     
  8. Ronstar

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    you'll ignore any evidence that I post, just as you ignore the evidence that the shooting began at the Tampa nightclub at 2 am and that 9-11 wasn't an inside job.
     
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    You have none. Just say it. ORRRRRR, you can actually post it for once lol. Let's have everyone see your proof and then we can discuss it. Seems to make more sense. No?
     
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    I already posted it, numerous times.

    your silly conspiracy theories about the Holocaust, 9-11, the Jews, and now the Tampa massacre have been debunked ad infinitum.
     
  11. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Come on, just post it. It should be easy if what you claim is true. Copy and paste it if you like. I must have missed it.
     
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    any evidence I post about the Shoah, you will disregard as "Jewish lies".

    any evidence I post about 9-11, you will disregard as "Jewish lies".

    we're beginning to see a trend here.
     
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    Yes, there is no proof of these insane claims of yours.
     
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    we've shown you all the proof, you just disregard all of it as "jewish lies"
     
  15. SamSkwamch

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    Copy and paste it. If you can.

    Moving on... let's get back on topic. Should these "camps" be for just those asking pesky questions about the 6,000,000? Or about the gas chambers? What if folks agreed with all that, but wrote about the zionist Jews directly connected to the horror? Would they require reeducation as well?

    Example:

    Zionists and Nazis Worked Together to Sow the Seeds of Anti-Semitism in Germany

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    Would the contemporary Zionists dare admit that their forebears forsook the Jews in their worst hour? That the Zionist never perceived the safety of the Jews as part of their goal?

    Yes, it was the Zionists who supported Nazism, collaborated with the Nazis, identified with Nazism - all due to the ideology of Zionism, which was in effect anti-Semitic....

    In March 1942, Chaim Greenberg, the editor of the Zionist Jewish Frontier, admitted that there was “a time when it used to be fashionable for Zionist speakers to declare from the platform that to be a good Zionist one must be somewhat of an Anti-Semite." (Chaim Greenberg, ‘The myth of Jewish parasitism Jewish Frontiers (March 1942), p. 20)

    This assessment cannot be more fitting. And the converse is true as well: to be pro-Jewish, one must be somewhat of an anti-Zionist.

    The question we face today is not what Nazism was, but rather, what Zionism and its supporters continue to be.
    http://www.truetorahjews.org/zionists-and-nazis-worked-together-sow-seeds-anti-semitism-germany

    Please come with something more intelligent than "self-hating Jews."
     
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    no, only Nazis require re-education and medication.
     
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    What about publically run? State run is the most totalitarian media. It's why no one believes what North Korean media says- even though it's hilarious.
     
  18. Gilos

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    None of us "insane" thought its important to start a thread about reeducation camps to nutters, but you did, so....you what your are, denial is futile.
     
  19. SamSkwamch

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    You missed the point. Had you been reading along you would know that the whole idea is geared against free speech. One example is not allowing free speech about historical events such as WWII. Since you have not been paying attention, you likely do not realize that no evidence for gas chambers has ever been shown, nor has any extermination plan ever been shown. Beyond that, people have already been locked up for questioning the 6 million number... and this is in socalled free nations.

    If you can't see how dangerous this is, then there really is nothing left to discuss with you.
     
  20. Gilos

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    You can't handle an intelligent reply but ill give you one chance,

    Today and in the past even more so if you want to immigrate you need the cooperation of both your local and your new country banks so your essets will not disappear, the deal between the Nazis and the Zionists in palestine also included the mandate holder - Britain who's banks were used in palestine. the Nazis didnt want the Jews and already passesd laws against them, that deal was the last attempt to get Jews out of there with as much of their essets as they could, 50,000 Jews were saved that way and also brought modern machinery to Zion as well as asisting the building there.

    The Nazis got rid of some Jews, got their essets at very low rates, and also managed to stop the Jewish boycott on it till the war broke

    The German Jews managed to save some of their money because they couldnt get it out otherwise

    The Zionists and the British mandate got educated immigrants and money to palestine


    When the deal was signed there was much opposition to it mainly by the Revisionist Zionists - the Likud ancestors, the Arlozerov murder (one of the leaders and head of the Jewish agency) was also said to be due to this opposition.

    The deal was over once war broke out and the Zionists fought Nazi Germany together with the brits - so your claims against the Jews regarding this deal is exactly as if you blame the brits.

    There is nothing here to suggest the Zionists or Jews created anti sematism, supported the Nazis or assisted them in killing Jews, if you can come up with such evidance you'll be the first neo nazi that actually makes a valid point so do your best, Im looking forward an "intelligent" reply.

    You can read about it here
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

    No Youtube video's I'm afraid :)
     
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    No, my point was its YOU that have wild ideas most of the world see as dangerous and most likly to lead to violence - hence this law, the rest of the world shares very diffrent views than you and any other nut that fears this law and with good reason.
     
  22. SamSkwamch

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    Not true, just look at their behavior. Look at their own words. Look at the terror they have wreaked on that region. Look at how they believe that international law and human rights concepts understood throughout history mean nothing to them.

    Aside from the fact you want intelligent discussion and call me a neo-nazi, I'll give you a shot. I am quite familiar with that agreement, but your spin is pretty ridiculous as there are actually numerous documents that show clearly deep connections, between the zionists and the nazis.

    Anyways, you might actually have to read a book, but this would be great start. It was compiled by a Jewish author, Lenni Brenner, 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis
    https://www.amazon.com/51-Documents-Zionist-Collaboration-Nazis/dp/1569804338

    While you wait for your new book to arrive, I also want you to understand what our Rabbi's at the time have presented by way of this historical document:

    Ten questions to the Zionists
    by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
    Dean of Nitra Yeshiva

    1. IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:

    a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and

    b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and

    c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

    2. IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear undestanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

    3. IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:

    a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.

    b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.

    c) No ransom will be paid

    4. IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

    5. IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

    6. IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

    7. IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

    8. IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

    9. IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

    10. IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important".

    Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

    There are additional similar questions to be asked of these atheist degenerates known as "Jewish statesmen", but for the time being let them respond to the ten questions. These Zionist "statesmen" with their great foresight, sought to bring an end two two-thousand years of Divinely ordained Jewish subservience and political tractability. With their offensive militancy, they fanned the fires of anti-Semitism in Europe, and succeeded in forging a bond of Jew-hatred between Nazi-Germany and the surrounding countries.

    These are the "statesmen" who organized the irresponsible boycott against Germany in 1933. This boycott hurt Germany like a fly attacking an elephant - but it brought calamity upon the Jews of Europe. At a time when America and England were at peace with the mad-dog Hitler, the Zionist "statesmen" forsook the only plausible method of political amenability; and with their boycott incensed the leader of Germany to a frenzy. And then, after the bitterest episode in Jewish history, these Zionist "statesmen" lured the broken refugees in the DP camps to remain in hunger and deprivation, and to refuse relocation to any place but Palestine; only for the purpose of building their State.

    The Zionist "statesmen" have incited and continue to incite an embittered Jewish youth to futile wars against world powers like England, and against masses of hundreds of millions of Arabs.

    AND THESE SAME ZIONIST "STATESMEN" HEEDLESSLY PUSH THE WORLD TO THE BRINK OF ANOTHER TOTAL WAR - REVOLVING ENTIRELY AROUND THE HOLY LAND.

    What may befall the Jewish inhabitants of Palestine, of the Arab crescent, Europe, or the USA; is of no concern to these Zionist leaders. The rising anti-Semitism in the Western World is the product of their "statesmanship". Under the guise of "love of Israel", the Zionist "statesmen" seduced many Jews to replace devotion to the Torah and its Sages with devotion to the scoundrel who founded Zionism. It is of no little significance that Herzl originally sought conversion of the Jews as a solution to the problems of the Diaspora. When he realized that this was not acceptable to the Jewish masses, he contrived Zionism as a satisfactory alternative!

    A look into history reveals that this very same type of "statesmen" opposed the call of Jeremiah the prophet to yield to the minions of Nebuchadnezzar at the destruction of the first Temple. Five centuries later, Rabbi Yochonon Ben Zakai appealed to the people to surrender to Titus the Roman to avoid bloodshed. The "statesmen" rejected this appeal, and the second Temple was destroyed by the Romans. --- And now for the past fifty years, the Zionist "statesmen" rebuff the leadership of our Sages; and continue in their policy of fomenting anti-Semitism. When will they stop?? Must every Jew in America also suffer?? -

    Even the Nazi monsters had more sense, and gave up their war before all Germany was destroyed. The Zionist "statesmen" ridicule the sacred oath which the Creator placed upon the Jews in the Diaspora. Our Torah, in Tractate Ksubos, folio 111, specifies that the Creator, blessed be He, swore the Jews not to occupy the Holy Land by force, even if it appears that they have the force to do so; and not rebel against the Nations. And the Creator warned that if His oath be desecrated, Jewish flesh would be "open property", like the animals in the forest!!

    These are words of our Torah; and these concepts have been cited in Maimonides' "Igeres Teimon", "Be'er HaGola", "Ahavas Yehonosson", and in "Toras Moshe" of the Chasam Sofer.

    IT IS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL THE SAGES AND SAINTS IN EUROPE AT THE TIME OF HITLER'S RISE DECLARED THAT HE WAS A MESSENGER OF DIVINE WRATH, SENT TO CHASTEN THE JEWS BECAUSE OF THE BITTER APOSTASY OF ZIONISM AGAINST THE BELIEF IN THE EVENTUAL MESSIANIC REDEMPTION.

    Yidden - merciful sons of merciful fathers - how much longer must holy Jewish blood continue to be shed??

    The only solution is:

    1. The Jewish people must reject, outright, a "Jewish State".

    2. The Jewish people should accept the US compromise.

    3. We must depose the atheist-Zionist "statesmen" from their role as Jewish leaders, and return to the faithful leadership of our sages.

    4. We beseech the Nations to open all doors to immigration - not only the doors of Palestine.

    5. Peaceful, non-Zionist religious personalities in Palestine, (particularly from the native population) and their counterparts in the Diaspora, should engage in responsible, face-to face negotiations on behalf of the Jewish people, with the British and the Arabs; with an aim of amicable settlement of the Palestine issue.

    Every Jew is obliged to pray to the Blessed creator, for in Him lies all our strength. Let us bear in mind that our prayers be forthright. One should not entreat the Creator to provide a banquet on Yom Kippur, and one can not perform a ritual ablution with a dead bug in his hand. Similarly, we should avoid the untenable position of the robber who prays for Divine help in carrying out his crime. We should pray that Zionism and its fruits vanish from the Earth, and that we be redeemed by the Messiah with dispatch.

    A prisoner is released only when he has served his time, or if he is pardoned by the President for good behavior. If he attempts escape and is apprehended, his term is lengthened, besides the beating he receives when he is caught.

    Faithful Jews- for over three and one-half thousand years, in all parts of the world, through all trials, our grandfathers and grandmothers marched through seas of blood and tears in order to keep the Faith of the Torah unswervingly. If we have compassion for ourselves, for our women and children, and for the Jewish people, we will maintain our golden legacy today. We have been sentenced to exile by the King of Kings because of our sins. The eternal blessed be He, has decreed that we accept the exile with humble gratitude until the time comes, or until we merit His pardon through repentance if we seek to end the exile with force, G-d will catch us, as our sages have forewarned, and our sentence becomes longer and more difficult.

    Many times in the past have segments of our people been defrauded by false messiahs - but none of the false messiahs has been as fallacious and delusory as the lie of Zionism. With our historical experience as our guide, no retribution has been or will be greater than the retribution for giving credence to Zionism. If we wish our exile-sentence commuted, we must appeal through repentance; and through total physical and spiritual observance of the Sabbath, laws of family purity, and study of Torah.

    Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of the Jewish people as today. How can we plead to the Almighty for mercy while we tolerate these vile, "wicked" leaders as spokesmen! Beloved brothers - let us cleanse our ranks and cleanse our midst; let us entreat the Almighty through prayer, repentance, and fulfillment of mitzvos that He alone redeem us, immediately.
    http://www.nkusa.org/Historical_Documents/10questions.htm
     
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    Free political speech and academic discussion regarding historical events being spun as "wild ideas" seems farfetched to say the least.

    No! Most of the world does not see that. That is in the zionists' world which you have been raised to believe includes the entire planet.

    You pretend to want intelligent discussion, but you rely on name-calling?
     
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    free speech includes falsely accusing all Jews of being liars and thieves?
     
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    what about ditching the media altogether except for weather reports?
     

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