European leaders are childless

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    The power in the EU belongs to the degenerates.


    Angela Merkel no children - German number one. Is she defective??
    British Theresa May has no children.
    The young villain Emmanuel Macron has no children. His wife-grandmother has, but he does not. Barren he probably.
    Italian leader Paolo Zhentiloni is childless.
    The Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte is childless.
    Jean-Claude Juncker has no children.
    Swedish Stephen Lofwen is childless.
    The Prime Minister of Luxembourg has a homosexual family, but has no children....and so on.

    In my opinion, this aunt from Lithuania - Grybauskaite, has no children.

    Add more leaders, if you know, and think about this: why do not they have children? At the same time, they crucify themselves about the public good and arrange for you the future, but they can not even produce children themselves. Therefore, human values in the EU are replaced by the values of degenerates.

    What do you think about it?
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can I confirm you’re declaring that anyone who doesn’t have children, regardless of the reasons, are “degenerates”?
     
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    You can even open a textbook of zoology and read there about the "dead-end branch of the species." This is when nature is destroying a certain kind of opportunity to reproduce. According to the scientific textbooks, any living ornganism not capable of procreation (for various reasons) - this organism is degenerate.
     
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    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You weren’t referring to species, you were referring to individuals. Now answer the question; Are you stating that anyone who doesn’t have children, regardless of the reason, is individually a “degenerate”?
     
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    Completely unimportant and uninteresting how many children a politician has ...

    What counts is how good they do their job ... but before you answer as expected, the examples shown would all make a bad job, forget it. Is your opinion and perhaps still by others, but not more!

    But according to your question and your presumptive evaluation, the German defense minister Ursula von der Leyen must make a genial job because she has 7 children. But that she does a genius job is for me very doubtful ... :-D
     
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    The number of children does not guarantee the quality of the work performed. But the lack of fertility is a 100% sign of degradation. So the scientists write. See the textbooks of zoology, the evolution of the species, ... read Darwin.

    If we talk about Germany. I advise you to read the book "Germany - Self-Liquidation", the best-selling author is Tilo Sarrazin.
    If everything is fine in Germany, why do 140-160 thousand Germans leave the country every year? And mostly young people or high-class specialists. There is a powerful brain drain. The second question is: are the forecasts correct that by the middle of the century the FRG will lose a quarter of the indigenous population? Moreover, every second German citizen will be born in Muslim families.

    The author shows an example.- a small village near Cologne. 30 years ago, two emigrants from Turkey settled in it. Now there are 300 migrants, more than the natives of the village. All brides are taken out of Turkey, none speak German. 70% of men do not work, families receive benefits. According to the author of "Self-Liquidation", this is the future of Germany. More - many countries of the Old World. Another 30-50 years - and the current EU territory will be a sharply impoverished country, mainly with a Muslim population. And what? The representative of the Belgian Islamic circles Abu Imram said: "Belgium needs to be converted to an Islamic state. We have a lot of judges, teachers and leaders who could become your caliphs. " Yes, and regularly in Germany are mass actions of the Salafis. (For reference: in Russia this fundamentalist trend of Islam is more often called Wahhabism.)
     
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    Indigenous white Europeans have essentially self sterilized themselves. Europe is gone as a Western civilization within 4 generations at the most and possibly a minority in many areas within 2. Most European countries are merely future states of the Empire of Islam.
     
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    Long life the KKK or what is your intention here?
     
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    To state facts. Secular indigenous Europeans are going to be replaced with theocratic non-Europeans and in this their culture and their secular government will be lost.In that, secular human rights will also be lost to theocratic laws and social rules.

    You should google KKK and you'll find that it was an American organization, not a European organization.
     
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    Sure ... this "white European race is in danger" BS is not more as white racist BS as usual.

    And yes, you should take google again and look closer on KKK please, because the first thing you have to do is to replace "was" with "is" and then you will learn that this scum swept over to Europe too...
     
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    Those aren’t facts, they’re predictions. We’ve had influxes of immigrants in the past and by the third and fourth generations, they largely integrated in to the native cultures (emphasis on the plural by the way). We already have later generations of the current wave of immigrants moving away from their parents and grandparents cultures and religious beliefs. Ironically, it’s a function of that transition that leaves some of them open to indoctrination by terrorists but equally open to indoctrination by criminal gangs. Trying to push them away is actually the worst thing we can do.
     
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    Yeah ... and Umarov told the same about Russia...

    And which little village near my home town Cologne do you mean?
     
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    Right, so you're assuming that 'lack of fertility' is the issue here? Has it not occurred to you that many people don't want to have children, and for many reasons?
     
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    I think you confuse 'fact' with 'speculation'. That is a fact.
     
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    1.)
    If you were a little more familiar with Thilo Sarrazin, you would not have used him as a source to support your claims.
    Sarrazin's book(s) were reviewed by journalists from all sides of the political spectrum but also by more twenty scientists (e.g. Michael Blume - political scientist; Esbeth Stern - psychologist; Harry Ostrer - geneticist; Werner Greve - developmental psychologist; Andre Reis - human geneticist; the Association Biology, Life Sciences and Biomedicine in Germany - Verband Biologie, Biowissenschaften und Biomedizin in Deutschland; Klaus Jürgen Bade - professor for History and Cultural Science spezialising in miration; Christoph M. Schmidt - economist and professor for economics; Frans Willekens - Director of the Netherlands Interdisciplinary Demographic Institute; Wolfgang Lutz - professor for demography and social sciences; etc. this list is by no means complete) and almost none of them supports Sarrazin's claims in any way. On the contrary; Sarrazin worked highly unacademic in his books, used wrong sources, and put other sources (statistics) deliberately in a highly incorrect context to make his claims appear trustworthy.
    Many of those whose data and studies he quoted told him not to use their material again because he's very obviously not interested in trustworthy academic work.
    Sarrazin's books were eaten alive by the scientific community. That guy has no leg to stand upon.
    Feel free to google these names.

    2.) I'm sure you have sources and reliable links for your 'brain drain' claim.
    The numbers you used are highly incorrect.
    https://www.destatis.de/EN/FactsFigures/SocietyState/Population/Migration/Tables/MigrationTotal.html
    Example:
    2010
    1. balance between arrivals and departures total: +127 677
    2. balance between arrivals and departures (Germans only): -26,248
    3. balance between arrivals and departures (non-Germans): + 153,925

    2011
    1. +279,330
    2. -23,528
    3. +302,858

    2012
    1. +368,945
    2. -18,204
    3. +387,149

    Here are correct numbers regarding this '140-160 thousand Germans leave the country every year' claim of yours.
    The balance looks as follows (Germans only):
    1998: +80,553
    1999: +83,740
    2000: +80,665
    2001: +84,451
    2002: +66,519
    2003: +39,949
    2004: +27,326
    2005: -16,764
    2006: -51,902
    2007: -55,091
    2008: -66,428
    2009: -40,288
    2010: -26,248

    I find it rather childish to invent numbers and statistics to make one's argument look better.
     
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    Dude ...
    You missed that the Trump Russia connection is no one way... and so the Russians learned with thanks to Spicer that there are always only facts and alternative facts :)
     
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    People with kids have a certain amount of responsibility to someone else, which is admirable. Not having kids(unless you're unable) is a sign of selfishness or apathy, even laziness, no matter how you slice it. I don't think any less of someone who chooses not to have kids, but that choice is certainly based on making life easier. Many people shouldn't have kids, due to incompetence, but others who are intelligent and successful are basically doing society a disservice. It's the plot of Idiocracy.

    I snicker on the inside when single people or childless couples ever complain about how busy they are or time they don't have. Serious delusion. Without kids you're only as busy as you want to be. Want to sleep in...go ahead. Want to do ANYTHING, go ahead. Nothing is stopping you except you. You have NO RIGHT to complain=)
     
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    Lack of fertility?

    DUH, ever heard of BIRTH CONTROL? Maybe these people CHOSE not to have kids...like nuns and priests and others who wish to remain child -FREE...
     
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    OMG, people are still using that old , "gee, you're so selfish for not breeding""" crap ?!!!

    Choosing to have kids or not to have kids is a sign we are thinking beings, individuals with enough brains to have INDIVIDUAL likes and dislikes.



    NOTHING more selfish than deciding to bring another person into this world for your selfish pleasure without asking their opinion!!!

    NOT having children only involves ONE person so it can hardly be selfish.



    Now, maybe someday you can get over the kindergarten idea of "selfish".....

    Everyone ever born behaves selfishly, it's called survival...it's HUMAN...have you really never done anything selfish such as feed yourself ?

    Have you given away all your belongings and lived on the street? Why not ? Are you selfishly keeping all your possessions?

    "Selfish" is not wrong.....it simply doing what one wants to do....

    ...and not wanting to bring kids into the world is a lot less selfish than doing what you want by involving others (having kids)..












    YOU: ""I snicker on the inside when single people or childless couples ever complain about how busy they are or time they don't have."""


    Why? Because they found more to life than raising kids? There really is more to life...



    I don't snicker , I laugh uproariously at parents who whine about their kids and how little time they have for themselves and how stressed out they are and how kids costs so much, etc., etc., :)
     
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    You're right, I don't think it's so much a fertility issue but more of a virility and visual problem. The video explains it's pretty well ;)



    Not sheep herders.
     
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    I think its an issue.

    If you look at merkels actions its clear she really doesn't have a vested interest in the future success of Germany.
     
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    That is an astute observation by you or your source. And irrespective of those here who respond "ho hum" it does speak ill of the type of leaders as such, generally speaking, not in every single case. Because even in affluent societies there are many well off married couples who choose not to have children as they do not see it as something that will enrich their lives so much as inhibit their lives or ideas of happiness. This, again by and large, goes against the teachings of God. It is not good for the individual nor for society.

    Western Europe has taken on many anti-Christian values or philosophies. They, like so many here in the USA, are blinded by their own egos and selfish temporal wants.
     
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    Your messages are exorbitantly factually wrong given that you have no grasp of the difference between race and culture or secular versus theocratic - and the truly ignorant claim that the KKK has "swept over to Europe" in your messages. The KKK is all but extinct even in the USA and just the boogie man to mindless white-guilt white liberals ranting for their own destruction.

    Do you celebrate the day Democrat President Andrew Jackson defied the US Supreme Court to order those "racist" "scum" indigenous Native Americans on a death march as a personal holiday?
     
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    You can buy this book (google help you) and find the name of this village.
     
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    Bla bla bla ... and about KKK and Europe, look here:

    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_White_Knights_of_the_Ku_Klux_Klan

    And no, I didn't and don't celebrate the butcher Jackson....
     

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