Evidence that the Holocaust DIDN'T happen?

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sir, I've been doing a little research into your posts in this forum.

    Your posts, if I must say, are about as full of hate for Jews as is humanly possible.

    Clearly, your denial of the Holocaust is motivated and driven by how much you despise the Jews.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    My posts are "as full of hate for Jews as is humanly possible"? Lmao.

    I am disturbed by the actions of organized Jewry. That doesn't mean I "hate Jews" anymore than one who opposes British colonialism "hates the British".

    My questioning of the Holocaust is motivated by the truth, which may be something you find hard to engage on, so instead shout "hatred".
     
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    stuntman Well-Known Member

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    The truth is that Holocaust happened, you have all around the world evidences to it.
    You have too much historians that would say that the Holocaust is real, you have live evidence that each year dissipate. (people)
    You have "too much" evidence that the Holocaust did happen, but you still dont want to acknowledge it cause you think it is something that Jews created out of thin air, just because to blur the world about their will to gain control over the world.

    THIS IS AN ANTI-SAMITE THINKING.
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no anti-Semitism huh?

    don't hate Jews huh?

    well, let's see what you've said over the years:


    and my personal favorite, where you seek to justify, defend, excuse, and explain Nazi hatred for the Jews:



    oh yes, you clearly hate Jews.

    your denial of the Holocaust is clearly driven and motivated by your hatred of the Jews.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    No I really don't 'hate Jews'. Some people with Jewish ancestry are decent people, and what I hate is the hostile actions of organized Jewry.

    Whether or not I 'hate Jews' (which I don't) has no bearing on the factual question of the extent of 'the Holocaust'.

    It's a pity you cannot engage adequately on this question and instead have to resort to ad hominem arguments.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry bro, but your clear hostility towards the Jewish people makes it very difficult to the point of absurdity, to take seriously your arguments against the Holocaust having taken place.

    perhaps when you get over your obsessive hatred of Jews and calling them "devils", your views on the Holocaust will be considered less biased.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you have stated that info from Americans is not legit.

    any other nationalities you wish to disregard?
     
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    What is the point? Croatians systematically exterminated Serbs, Turks did the same to Armenians, English & Spanish the same to native Americans and so on , people die all the time and there is nothing strange about it .

    Yes i have read the red cross reports about working camps and how everything was fine but the nazis could have easily staged a show , or many .
    At the other hand people taken from the nazis didn't return at all and if holocaust is a myth i wonder what happen to them.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human being: where do you think the 5+ million missing Jews are?

    Holocaust denier: maybe they went to Mars.

    Human being: you got any evidence they went to Mars???

    Holocaust denier: you got any evidence they DIDN'T go to Mars????


    :)
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    How do you calculate that 5 million Jews are missing?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 million Polish Jews.

    800,000 Central European Jews.

    1 million Ukrainian Jews.

    500,000 or so Russian and western USSR Jews.

    Hillberg's numbers appear to agree.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    Most of the Polish Jews were evacuated across Soviet lines.
     
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    You replied to the post but you sidestepped the issue. After seeing how the US government lied to the American people about what the German people were thinking during the war, do you trust official American sources?

    I live in Spain and I see a lot of the same BS in the mainstream press here that I see in the US. The same people who control the American press seem to be controlling the Spanish press. It's probably the same in a lot of other countries.

    Here's some stuff about the media you should check out.

    http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky+media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
    http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

    Now please address the issue I raised.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    wrong.

    only around 200,000 Jews were sent across the Soviet lines.

    From 1939 to 1941 between 100,000 and 300,000 Polish Jews were deported from Soviet-occupied Polish territory into the Soviet Union. Some of them, especially Polish Communists (e.g. Jakub Berman), moved voluntarily; however, most of them were forcibly deported or imprisoned in Gulag


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_of_Poland#Territories_annexed_by_the_USSR_.281939.E2.80.931941.29
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    sorry bro, but its pretty bigoted, irrational, and illogical to disregard all info about the Holocaust that comes from American sources.
     
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    You sidestepped the question again. I asked you if you trusted American sources after having seen the big lie I pointed out. Please stop sidestepping my question and answer it.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    can you give me a rational and logical reason why I should distrust ALL American sources regarding the Holocaust?
     
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    That is not the answer to my question.

    You seem to trust American information sources. In post #26 I gave an example of a big lie told to Americans by the US government. What I want you to do is read post #26 and listen to what the two videos say. Then I want you to tell us whether you still trust American information sources.

    I asked you first so you have to answer my question before asking other questions. You seem to be asking other questions instead of answering my question because my question has you cornered. Objective truth-seekers don't get cornered. They modify their opinions when they see that they're wrong.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see no logical nor rational reason to doubt ALL American sources regarding the Holocaust.

    do you?
     
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    Wikipedia asserting something is very far from reliable.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    far more reliable that a frequent poster on Stormfront.
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    I'm obviously not using myself as a source for anything am I.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you make claims without any links to any sources for your info.

    sorry, but your obsessive hatred of the Jews makes you totally unreliable when it comes to info about the Holocaust.

    every single one of your claims requires a quote and a link to a source, or its worth less than (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    We've been over all of these points already and you are repeating yourself.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=317262&page=50&p=1063411249#post1063411249

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=317262&page=49&p=1063411135#post1063411135
     
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    (from post #69)
    Look at post #26.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=336026&page=3&p=1063475104#post1063475104

    Did you listen to what was said in the videos? Is that different from what Americans are taught about what the German people were thinking during WW2?

    Did you look at any of the info I posted about the American media in post #64?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=336026&page=7&p=1063488116#post1063488116

    You know I don't trust any of the American media. I read the alternative press when I want an analysis of something.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/

    I want you to address the issue of Americans' being taught that the German people wanted to take over Europe. Do you think that hurts the government's credibility? Stop being vague and address the actual issue.
     

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