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Evolution is a Joke PT VII (back by popular demand)

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  1. DBM aka FDS

    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I got a PM to bring this back from a new person, so I am...

    The subject is... Darwism is a religion. They have FAITH that evolution is a theory. It is not and has not passed the scientific method. It is a hypothesis, and that means it is just a guess, a pipe dream.

    In order for evolution to be, there needs to be scientific evidence to do so.

    There isn't. Thus, evolution is now a "Faith" that people follow.

    Discuss...
     
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    Goldwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Evolution is an observable fact....Natural Selection is the most widely accepted hypothesis to explain evolution.

    I don't have faith in either...and faith has no place within hypotheses and no reason to be weighed besides observable facts

    How ya been?
     
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    Personally, I think it's turtles all the way down.
     
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    Darwinian natural selection is a theory by definition.

    Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Natural selection explains and interprets the facts of biological diversity on our planet. It is therefore a theory.

    No faith required.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    GOLDWATER!!!

    I have been fabulous! I have to leave for today and will be honored to discuss evolution with you again!
     
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    As I with you!......see ya when you return
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    From our last discussion... I do recall something about Natural Selection? I can't remember, but I do know that what you posted was not "standard" for how people view that mechanism of evolution.

    Can you please recap?
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Just because someone explains that the existance cottage cheese is the reason large (mass) object have gravity doesn't mean it's so.

    I suggest that you sit back and read for a while...
     
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    There is scientific evidence. That is how the idea started to begin with.

    The fossil evidence alone shows that evolution did happen. The only plausible way to explain fossils away is that they are Satan's work.
     
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    Popular demand?? ROFL

    First, one request does not equate to "popular demand". In fact, I'm sure most of us would rather you stop posting about evolution entirely since you refuse to listen and are just so utterly and completely wrong and willfully ignorant about everything. Seriously, just stop. You aren't accomplishing anything but embarrassing yourself, and even the amusement of that has worn off for most of us.

    Second, I call bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I don't believe for a minute that someone PMed you to start up another thread about this. You're just making that up for an excuse to continue trolling.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Ah... the Peanut Gallery in all their glory... coming on and have absolutely nothing to say except crap that has nothing to do with the thread topic.

    Oh no... You just can't see it and ignore it - no... You have to post something retarded... as always...

    What no personal att... Ohhh... There it is... You Peanuts within the Gallery should NEVER deminish your standings amoung the ranks of Peanuts by not posting some personal attack!! That would be ridiculous!!

    Thank you for your concern, but as you can see... People are posting regardless of what you say Card Carrying member of the Peanut Gallery!

    Now begone!
     
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    I would say, more of an observation than evidence… Darwin just added on to what others have brought forth before him.

    The fossil record is horrific evidence “for” evolution. Do you know how much life on this planet lives and dies each year? The Earth has been around for billions of years. Can you imagine how much life that has died on this planet has even “become” fossils? I will guarantee that there is over 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 species of life that has lived on this planet that has never been fossilized and probably never will…
     
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    If everything you say is wrong, and I simply point out that fact, it is obviously not a personal attack. If it offends you, perhaps you should educate yourself on the subject.
     
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    Yet the few fossils we do have provide a pretty good argument for evolution.
     
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    Certainly...if I wouldn't keep getting kicked off the internet here at work, this would have been done long ago.

    Evolution is simply the various types of animals and plants having their origin in other preexisting types, and that the distinguishable differences are due to continuous change from generally simpler to generally more complex states.

    Natural Selection is a tentative assumption made in order to draw out and test the logical or empirical consequences of the survival and reproductive success of individuals or groups best adjusted to their environment and that leads to the perpetuation of genetic qualities best suited to that particular environment

    Overwhelmingly compelling evidence for Natural Selection has been obtained and tested through the collection of data through observation and experiment, and the formulation and testing of the hypotheses.

    Faith is irrelevant to the hypothesis of Natural Selection, nor does faith even exist on the same plane as science. To say that scientists have “faith” that Natural Selection is a valid hypethesis is as relevant as pointing out that most people who believe Natural Selection is valid have 10 toes.
     
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    Have fun. See you in the "peanut gallery" soon enough (that's DBM aka FDS' expression for posters he has realized can't be duped).
     
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    If evolution did not happen...what did?

    Please do tell.
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    If you have been hear reading the whole time then you know that I am usually NOT wrong and all I do is point out the mistakes in those who "think" evolution is more than a hypothesis...

    So, are you going to continue with your banter or provide evidence of your belief system of evolution?
     
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    Freeware - you are not in the Peanut Gallery? Kmisho - isn't in the Peanut Gallery... Only those who resort to personal attacks and are what is the Peanut Gallery.

    I do have to say you have come close with not posting nothing but... Well, look at what you posted...

    If you don't have anything to put in with the subject matter - don't post! It's like those ridiculous Christians that complain about TV shows that they don't agree with - THEN TURN THE CHANNEL!!!! Let those who enjoy the program do it in peace...

    Are you a nosey Christian Freeware that needs to stick his/her nose in other peoples fun because you don't agree with the program?

    Like I have SAID SOOOOOOO MANY TIMES - You Darwinist are EXACTLY like ridiculous Christians on how you act!!!



    EXACTLY!
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    I don't know... Evolution is a good "guess", but that is all that it is... a guess...
     
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    I think it’s their website, because it happens to me “often” to say the least…

    How do you think complexity occurs? Because from what I understand if mutations happen, doesn’t “natural selection” correct a mutation since, at that time, it is not useful, thus, not replicated?

    I apologize Goldwater, but what I bolded confused me a little. Is NS an assumption as you stated first, or is it a theory or even a fact? If there is something that has been done with natural selection that I am unaware of could you please provide a link or something? ( I already know you are “for” Natural Selection so…)

    Now, my rebuttal… :)

    Natural selection is a farce. Why? Because (for instance) when a group of Spotted Hyena on the plains of the Serengeti look out, they do not know what animal is diseased… They just randomly pick one out and go for it. Now, it could be the child of the strongest male and most intelligent female offspring, but it didn’t make it. I could be the healthiest male but it happened to hit a pot hole while running away…

    I don’t believe in Natural Selection, because you can’t predict which flowers will be pollenated, what animals will be stocked and killed, what insects are going to fly in your house to meet a death called the Daily Times as their guts are plastered to the kitchen fridge.

    I don’t think you agree, but I do think it is an assumption.
     
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    That's splendid irony, my friend. Since the very first thread you made with the word "evolution" in the title, you basically haven't said anything on the subject of evolution.
     
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    I am now saying something on the subject of evolution...


    Satisfied?


    :)
     
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    Ohhh Lookie, another thread that someone can show their complete ignorance on Human Chromosome 2
     
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    Natural selection is a tentaive assumption made to create the basis for testing done to prove or dissprove the assumption...which is what a hypothesis is....

    .....and a theory, the way I define it, is a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of principles offered to explain phenomena...which also happens to be very close to the dictionary definition

    So....just to make sure we're speaking the same language....NS is a theory and a hypothesis, and it would be intellectually shoddy for anyone to think that NS as described in Origin of the Species is the final word...or a proven theory. Having said that...I personally accept NS as the most plausible theory and hypothesis for our observations regarding changes in life forms on Earth

    More later, gotta run
     
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