Evolution thread.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    And here's an article addressing that. Information can only come from intelligence equal or exceeding the intelligence of the information.

    http://creation.mobi/information-science-and-biology

    So how does that disprove my point?

    Which evolved from?
     
  2. Maccabee

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    Here's an article debunking that.

    http://creation.mobi/biology-exam-fraud
     
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    My understanding is that the genetic change required for going from scale to feather is minimal.

    Plus, once out of water feathers would seem to have more going for them as they have insulating capacity, can make an animal appear more striking, can help in speed (as has been shown in pre-flight chicken like animals where feathered arms helped with speed and fast direction change before being flight-worthy).
     
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    But until they have a use the dinosaur has a lot of cleaning to do and could've spent that time on something else like getting food. And the only similarity between a scales and feathers is they are made from the same material. They form from different sections of the genetic code, they attach differently, and they different complexities.
     
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    There are people here that could easily answer your question about tetrapods,etc.;
    the real question is why are you not taking the initiative to research these things from credible (scientific) sources yourself?
     
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    Your theory is a bunch of nonsense. See how convincing and well detailed your argument is?
     
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    First of all it's not a theory and second of all it's not mine.

    It's reality.

    AA
     
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    And here's an article debunking that.

    https://answersingenesis.org/natura...n/did-humans-evolve-from-a-fish-out-of-water/

    Btw, specifically what tetrapods evolved into mammals if it wasn't reptiles?

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    First of all it is a theory and second of all it is what you believe.

    It's fiction.

    MB
     
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    Taxonomy/cladistics should be totally independent of the theory of evolution.
     
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    It stopped being a theory the moment it obtained a mathematical proof upon a Molecular/Atomic Genetic level.

    And it certainly is not a belief...it is reality.

    AA
     
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    AboveAlpha answered that.
    As far as AIG, it’s a subjective article written by an obstetrician ( Elizabeth Mitchell).
    The main reason she rejects evolution is because she thinks that it would undermine biblical narratives. This ideological need makes her put forward many classic creationist tropes against evolution that have been disproven time and time again.
    What the article amounts to is her saying “nuh-uh,God did it.
     
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    I am perplexed as to why people that believe in the Genesis story where its body of content is written for only a child to understand and in no way provides adequate information for adult comprehension is preferred to believe over science. Instead of perceiving science is the enemy of their belief, why not believe that science is giving you more of the details of how life changed over the time since its existence. It is not threatening your belief of a GOD that no one has ever seen since it only requires you have faith in your GOD.

    Science can only hope to provide with the "how" and not the "why" of life's history of chemical engineering. If people of religious faith want to cap their curiosity of "why" life came into being with a belief in their GOD so be it. However, don't judge the people that do want to pursue the truth of the details of the origin of life and its truth in its journey from past to present.

    In my opinion, if people were so secure in their belief in their GOD, they would not feel threatened by anyone trying to discredit their belief. There also would not have been a history of violence by different religious beliefs but that is another discussion for a another thread.
     
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    Do you people not know the the meaning of theory? In common vernacular, it's what is better termed a hypothesis; an estimate, a guess. In scientific language, it means something which has been proven within a shadow of a doubt; a law is a mathematical certainty.

    By saying that evolution is a theory, scientists are not calling it a guess, they are calling it a fact. A fact which has been outright observed with moths, and the steady rise in tuskless elephants.
     
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    Evolution stopped being a Theory in 1999.

    This is when the Academy of Science declared Evolution to have obtained a Mathematical PROOF upon a Molecular Atomic Genetic Level.

    Once something obtains a MATHEMATICAL PROOF....it is no longer a theory but a FACT.

    Never in the history of humanity has something obtained a mathematical proof and then later found to be wrong.

    Math does not lie.

    AA
     
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    But contrails said different. He said reptiles didn't evolve into mammals.

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    Prove that.

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    Prove the article false.
     
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    He is wrong.

    The tiny bones in human ears that allow us to hear evolved from reptilian jaw bones.

    This is NOT THEORY.

    We have the actual fossil record of the reptiles and the half reptile half mammals that show us this happened.

    Other examples of Reptile to Mammal evolution are the Duck Billed Platypus and Akidna.

    AA
     
  20. Maccabee

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    I'm in part agreement with you. Science does indeed confirms the Bible, just not in the way you think.
    And the truth of the origin of life is that its only six thousand years old and a creator made it.
    Ok?
     
  21. Maccabee

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    Glad we got that sorted out.
    How so?
    Your right, its a religion.
    Prove it then.
    How are they examples?
     
  22. AboveAlpha

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    The PROOF exists and occurred after we completely mapped the entire Human Genome.

    We compared our Genome to the thousands of other Genomes of plants, animals and microbial life and we found one thing in common with all of them.

    All life on Earth have Genomes which have one in the same Viral DNA Encoding in their Genomes!!

    Now all Genomes of all life have millions of different Viral DNA encoding but ONE SPECIFIC VIRAL DNA ENCODING EXISTS IN ALL GENOMES OF ALL LIFE FORMS!!

    The ONLY way this could be possible is if the original single celled life form on Earth was infected with a Virus and passed this Viral DNA encoding down via evolution to all life on Earth.

    This has been proven on a Molecular/Atomic Level which culminates as a MATHEMATICAL PROOF.

    The article is so idiotic it is not even worth commenting upon.

    AA
     
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    You know....I am perfectly willing to educate you in many realities.

    But I am not willing to deal with idiocy.

    You want to learn fine.

    You want to keep expounding upon fantasies without any evidence or proof....then I am out.

    AA
     
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    I don't know who contrails is, but they're right.
     
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    Reptiles (sauropsids) and mammals (synapsids) both evolved from amniotes, which lay their eggs on land or retain the fertilized egg within the mother, as opposed to anamniotes (fishes and amphibians) which typically lay their eggs in water. While mammalian middle ear bones are homologous to the reptilian jaw, that does not mean that mammals evolved from reptiles.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1096-0031.1988.tb00514.x/abstract

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