Evolutionism explained. How to explain the existence of matter?

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  1. kilgram

    kilgram New Member

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    Well, it is the photo from some text book of some school, of an unknown origin but interesting for its content.

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    Source: BoingBoing

    Well no comments... Just pure nonsense and it should not be in any school.
     
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    A Universe from Nothing

    If you add up all the negative and positive energy in the universe, then net result is 0. We are on the ultimate free lunch.

    Im sorry this isnt as sexy as some super natural story, but truth is usually more boring than myths.
     
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    Nonsense or not nonsense - the question is interesting: How do you explain the existance of matter?

    http://www.youtu.be/xNAhz76nBIM
     
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    That's an idea - a speculation - I had some years ago. Others may have had the same idea - but it is "only" an idea. How do you know that this idea is a reality?

    http://www.youtu.be/W9uT39TsChc
     
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    I sincerely hope that textbook is not one that's actually used to teach science.
     
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    Matter comes from energy.
     
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    Agreed. That textbook is a joke regardless of the discipline.

    "Only three explanations can be given for the existence of all matter"

    Is this textbook supposed to retard the development of children? And for what ends? Maybe this picture something that should be looked into.
     
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    It is indeed only an idea, but since one of the best arguments for a god is the lack of such an explanation, the mere existence of other explanations, even if they turn out not to be true, means that it is our duty to investigate any hypothesis. Since the creator god hypothesis has issues in itself, mostly the idea that the god does not require creation, it loses validity.
     
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    If that textbook is real then it needs to be investigated. This is propaganda and indoctrination, not education.
     
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    Apparently they are too stupid to understand that evolution is not related to cosmology.
     
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    Quantum foam is the source from which discrete particles are created that eventually become hydrogen. All elements are based on the initial creation of hydrogen.

    Quantum foam is not exactly nothing but it's the closest thing to nothing that there is. And it's still creating hydrogen.
     
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    Why is this special form of [¿bound?] energy called "matter" existing? What is [are] the reason for the existance of matter? As far as I can see we are not able to know "where" the energy for this universe came from - better to say we are only able to know that it came from nowhere in notime out of nothing under unkown conditions and so on and so on. But we could be able to find out why some energy of the universe looks like matter, smells like matter, feels like matter ... is matter. But why is this energy what we see here sometimes "matter" - and not mpftlgrmpf, whatever mpftlgrmpf could be? What could be alternatives? And why are this alternatives not existing, if they are not existing? ...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTVZyXr0_O8
     
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    I believe in the Bible's version of Creation. But I don't think the worksheet is credible. No source....no school named. Very conveniently...unknown.

    We have enough private biblically based schools in the US to find something real enough to be a reliable source.

    You guys ought to be a bit more credible yourself by keeping up your source standards.
     
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    "Evolutionism" has nothing to do with the origins of matter. Silly textbook.
     
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    The "problem" with this explanation: If the universe has no energy in total then it is not existing - because "existance" means to be able to cause something - and to cause something needs always energy. First: Why are we existing in this case - or are we able to be our own illusion? And second: Everywhere all around you could be an endless number of universes in every point of this universe - and as long as their is not an interaction between you (or any other part of this universe here) and one of this universes they are just simple not existing. But in case a universe would be in this way - are we sure that an interaction is alweays impossible - and if an interactions is possible - what would happen in this case?

    And I don't know anything about a so called "creator hypothese". My belief in god tells me "His creation is good" and I still share the view of Leibniz "We are living in the best of all possible worlds" - but I don't know anything about a "creator hypothese".

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMnXjLD7J24
     
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    The propaganda here is from a militant atheist - comparable with the propaganda of Hitler or Stalin. You can see an Allevil-will in the background to forbid all Christians any influence on their own children, because "the rich and mighty" and/or "the party" (or however the new name will be; "the elites" could be such a name for example) likes to have in the future lots of 24/7-unisex-slaves far from real humanity = Christianity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cvakTZAzz8
     
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    So matter is hydrogen. A proton and an electron - combined. And what was it before it became hydrogen?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AVg_uStoVE
     
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    When the USA went in war against the Iraq (It was another war - not the last war) in the United Nations reported a lady how iraquian soldiers threw premature babies in Kuwait on the floor to steal their breeders. I believed it. I'm still ashamed because some years later it was clear that an american secret servive had payed an actor for this farce. She was good - nevertheless I got the impression the USA is a nation where the words "honor" or "respect" or "reliability" are empty phrases. By the way: Are still Christians existing in the Iraq or is the 2000 years history of the Christians there "finally solved"?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvjiVam2HO4
     
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    What?

    Are you unintelligible in German, too? Or is this a translational issue?
     
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    Ah yes, the stupidity of creationists thinking that all of science is called Evolution.
     
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    Ick. I should hope that toilet paper has never made its way into a public school classroom, and shame on any private religious school that has so poisoned young minds.
     
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    My thoughts are not important - the reality behind this thoughts is important. So if you are not able to accept somethign what I say then just simple feel free not to accept it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4Svh-9ohg4
     
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    Why do you believe in bible's version of Creation? Can you reason this?

    For me is just incredible to have schools in US that they teach according to mythology. Without any reliable and provable source. But well, is your problem, and if this creationism thing becomes more powerful this is the death sentence of the power of USA.

    Even catholicism don't admit the creationism thing, and considers what is said in the book be just an easy history to explain the world, but it never can be taken literally. Catholicism accepts evolution and creationism is only accepted in USA, basically.
     

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