EVs fail in the Chicago extreme cold

EV owners in Chicago learn a cold lesson. EVs don’t do well in the extreme cold. The battery failed in the cold. After they pushed them to the charging stations, the battery would not take a charge.

This is no surprise. Auto mechanics have known it for years. Auto batteries fail most often in extreme heat and extreme cold. Once you get an internal combustion engine started, you are usually ready to roll. Imagine if you need an ambulance to take you to the hospital in a life threatening situation. If your ambulance is an EV, you could end up dead. Ditto is you house catches on fire. If the trucks are EVs, I guess the result might be let your house burn in the name of climate change.

 

my guess is that they'll keep amberlamps and fire trucks inside until they are needed, like they do now.

 

What do you do after the cold gets to them when they are out on call? What happens when need to take care of two or more calls without returning to base? Could it be that some vehicles should not be EVs?

 

Dude, it was -24 here in Montana for the last few days, and there were plenty of combustion engine cars sitting along side the roads as well.

EV were never meant to be a cure all - the idea was diversification of energy source so that when we had these spikes in gasoline prices, it wouldn't cripple the economy. There are areas of the country where they make more sense, Much of the south west and south for commuting, for example.

 

We should be using both on the roads and LNG for larger vehicles. They all have their place and personally I'd buy an EV as a second vehicle not my primary.

 

Lay off the crap. I am not your “dude.”

Yea, internal combustion engines fail in extreme cold, but it’s often from dead batteries, frozen coolant or vapor locks. I’ve head of people in Maine running their car all night to keep it running. All that is true, but EVs are more vulnerable.

Part of the reason why Herz is selling off a lot of their EVs is because of reliability issues. They break down more often.

 

Uh No, Biden clearly told us, in fact promised, he was going to put an end to fossil fuels. There was no diversification. lol
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Heck I saw lefties on here bragging we were finally back to pumping out 12m+ barrels of oil a day. You would have thought they were MAGA lol.

 

And that's why you use a tool where it's more useful. Yup, having a straight EV in Montana for winter use has serious limitations - but using an EV for a 20 minute commute in Vegas, makes huge sense. If you look back over the years, there have been huge recalls of combustion engine cars as well. It's the same
as using a screw driver to drive a nail. Each tool for its specific need. EV cars were designed as commuters, and they work very well for that purpose. Screaming
that they aren't as good for cross country trips is like yelling at the screw driver for sucking at driving at nail.

 

And where in the **** did I say I agreed with that? This bicameral view of the totality of the world is counter-productive for rational thought. Try again.

 

You can install battery warmers on cars parked at your house and it's common place in Alaska. Outside of that, you keep it running even in the parking lot.

If you used a battery warmer on an EV, it would still die when you got down the road because it doesn't produce it's own heat like a combustion engine does. They probably could make something but then your battery would use a ton of electricity heating the battery and keeping you warm that you would have to charge pretty soon

 

Which makes good sense.

The total demonization of EV because they aren't "perfect" is asinine. They are a tool that are good for a number of uses. Commuting in many urban areas is the main one.

 

Which is why , at present, they make more sense as commuter in temperate areas of the countries. As technology changes, they may work better. They are
a tool, like a hammer, you use them for the what they are best at. As I said, it's stupid to demonize them for not being perfect when they are still relatively new
on the market.

 

When I lived in Massachusetts, the trip to my parents’ house was 425 miles door to door. An EV would have been useless to me. Am I supposed to have baby a $40 k and up vehicle to please Biden and environmental extremists and socialist human behavior control freaks? No way.

 

And again, dude - you use an EV for what they are designed for - mainly mid range commutes in urban areas. You're basically yelling at a screw driver because it's not good at driving a nail.

 

The northeast is getting snow and I wonder how those solar panels are doing? Plus, with a lot of wind they can be blown off the roof.

 

Unless that EV was only used by a little old lady on Sundays to go to church you may want to rethink that. When buying a used EV you have no idea how many charging cycles are left on the battery before it needs to be replaced.

 

I don’t understand the hate for EV’s — I think diversifying our energy sources is smart not only from an efficiency standpoint but also from an independence one. Use fossil fuels when they are needed, maybe solar if the area is suited for it, nuclear, wind, hydrogen

My daily driver is a Tesla Model S — it’s replacement will be another EV, leaning towards an EX60 or Fisker Ocean, but we also have two ICE vehicles if I need to haul something or for long trips.

EV’s are great for some and not for others.


I would have loved to seen your type around when horse and buggy met internal combustion. But then again they didn’t have the news screaming at them to be fearful and mad.

 

There are positives and negatives to all different cars.

I live near Chicago and yesterday left for work in my 3500HD diesel truck. I tried three different fuel stations and couldn't get the pumps to stop clicking off on diesel immediately. It was -30 with the windchill.

Ironically, I went back home and grabbed my Tesla and had no issues all day.

 

This is absolutley false.

How do you think an EV heats the cabin?

The same way it keeps the battery warm.

 

So would a motorcycle for a family of 4.

But that would be silly to just outright oppose motorcycles in general because of this one situation.

 

Not true.

My Tesla gets run all over town for work with more than enough range to have plenty left over before getting home from the office. I don't usually drive more than 200 miles on a regular work day.

And there is no way to know how many burnouts some 16 year old put on that used truck transmission.

 

I just did a quick check and the batteries are good for 1500 to 2000 charging cycles. The good news is that if the battery is at 80% and you then charge it to 100%, that counts as just 20% of a charging cycle, so seems to be pretty decent unless someone plans on keeping the car for a long time.

How much battery power is sucked up by the air conditioner?

 

YUUUP! NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES, Battery failure..

 

LOL you said it was about energy diversification, guess you didn't get the memo! The left's policy leaders made it clear it's about ending fossil fuels as Biden clearly told you and the world.

 

Interesting. Sounds like a design problem. I worked with dozens of engineers over the years. They'll fix it. They always do.