Ex-Cain staffer: Campaign concealed gay aide's role

Kind of a lame and cowardly thing to do.

If the guy is gay, so what? Was Cain so worried about losing the bigot vote that he did not want an openly gay staffer to be found out?

Or was it fear of a perceived hypocrisy, where Cain is positioned as believing that homosexuality is a choice?

Either way, who in the hell woudl care if he has a gay man on his staff? Are GOP voters so afraid of a gay man?

Sorry Cain, but that is pure scumbaggery. Either you support the guy or you don't. Grow a pair next time.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ain-staffer-campaign-concealed-gay-aides-role

A former Herman Cain staffer alleged in sworn testimony that the campaign tried to hide the work of the openly gay treasurer of his political action committee (PAC) because his sexual orientation made supporters uncomfortable.

Kevin Hall, Cain's former Iowa straw poll coordinator, made the allegation in a letter applying for unemployment benefits and subsequent sworn testimony obtained by The Associated Press.

Hall says the Cain campaign told staffers to tell donors and supporters that Scott Toomey, a former Cain adviser and treasurer of his PAC, was no longer involved the Godfather Pizza magnate's campaign. But Toomey continued to work closely with the campaign as an outside consultant, allowing Cain staff to say that Toomey had left the campaign — and removing any mention of Toomey in Federal Election Commission filings — while, for all intents and purposes, he maintained the same role.

"A conservative candidate, Mr. Cain is on the record as stating that he believes homosexuality is a sin and a choice. And they know that, if his top adviser, his highly paid adviser, is openly gay, that it would cast a negative light on Mr. Cain and would cost him in his efforts to become president," Hall testified. "Basically the campaign was trying to cover up the fact that Mr. Toomey was still involved. They asked … me to help them cover up that fact."

Toomey became a hot-button issue for the campaign in the weeks after Cain said, in response to a question by an Iowa voter, that he wouldn't object to appointing gay staff members to work in the White House, as long as they were qualified. Conservative journalists used these comments to point out Toomey's role as treasurer, and quickly pounced on a 2008 report that Toomey had been removed as treasurer of a Madison, Wis., gay-pride parade after financial discrepancies were discovered.

Hall argued that in asking him to help obscure Toomey's involvement in the campaign, the Cain campaign was threatening his credibility — and, subsequently, his career as a political consultant. He said in his testimony that this, along with concern over Cain's efforts in Iowa, forced him to resign from the campaign.

Cain campaign spokeswoman Ellen Carmichael told The Associated Press that Hall was "a disgruntled former staffer" and that his claims should be viewed skeptically through that prism. She also said that Toomey is no longer a Cain staffer or consultant, but that his sexuality was not the reason for his departure.

But a Cain lawyer at Hall's unemployment hearing did not dispute his version of events, and an administrative judge awarded Hall unemployment benifits.

"The presence of the gay person on the campaign was misrepresented to the staff, which caused Mr. Hall and others to inadvertently misrepresent the fact to others," Administrative Law Judge Bonny Hendricksmeyer wrote in his decision. "[Hall's] credibility and his future job prospects would have suffered. It is possible if the situation had been discovered it would have also created a negative impact on [Hall's] job duties. He felt it was possible the candidate would lose credibility and the straw poll results would be very poor."

 

interesting

Cain could address this very clearly.

A statement as simple as

"what business is it of any of ours what the guy does in the privacy of his bedroom? He is here to do a job for us"

that simple statement would diffuse this faux outrage

 

Oblivious it is more important to be perceived as not liking homosexuals, or not deeming them worthy enough to serve on his staff.

Rather sad, isn't it?

 

I believe it's just feedback occuring because we've been flooded with gay this and gay that. Frankly who cares what you do in your private lives?

Sex needs to be kept private

If you were a cpa and I hired you to tend to my books and file my taxes, then I only care that you are credible, capable and honest. That is how I would measure you. I'm sure you feel the same.

If this staffer was credible then his performance on the job should be the only thing that matters.

It's things like this that make me always go back and recall a woman I once hired. I had a phone interview with her. I needed someone to head up my customer service dept. I asked when she could get to the office. her reply to me was "I need to tell you that I'm black"

My reply was "does your skin color stop you from getting into your car and driving over here so I can hire you"?

Needless to say we both had a good laugh over it.

 

Apparently potential Cain voters need to be shielded from the fact that their man employs a gay man.

 

Well a lot of the homophobes that support Cain would abandon him if he didn't tow the party line. That's what complicates matters.

 

Why more gay threads TFM? it seems that is your full agenda.

 

Ah yes, the smart argument, the homosexual insinuation.

I realize that is as mature and intellectual as your posts seem to get, but does that never turn a bit tiresome?

 

From a disgruntled former staffer. Who knows what was actually said and done.

 

I am just asking. You comment on how m any times I brought up fisting in debate, just wanted to know if I should do the same as to how many threads about homosexuality you brought up.

but anyway, Its the staffers words against Cain's.

 

Whatever.

Really? Where in the article did Cain say anything about it?

 

If a disgruntled former employee came out and said something bad about a politician they didn't like, how many saying that we should ignore this would be holding those revelations up as fact?

Fact is if it wasn't for disgruntled people we would never hear of anything wrong happening anywhere in any medium.

 

It looks like something that should really be no big deal might turn into a big deal.

If Cain had any chance of winning whatsoever, this would be a major headline. As it is.....it's not going to change much.

 

Maybe he should complain to OSHA about it.

 

Most of the rabid Right.

 

Cains secret homosexual love life is his own business.

 

what party line?

Conservatives really could care less what you do in the privacy of your bedroom with consenting adults. It's when you shove sex into our faces when we push back and say keep it in the bedroom where it belongs.

So, why was it important for this worker to discuss how he engages in sex?

Do any of Cain's workers reveal if they use inflatable dolls?

 

Can you post were Cain said gays were bad? If not your fullerbull.

 

No, that is why I never claimed he did say that.

 

Wow if this is your idea of a scandal, the Republicans will walk into the White House in 2012 easily!

Kind of pales in comparison to giving weapons to drug lords, and giving a bunch of stimulus dollars to a campaign donor to walk away with and create no jobs eh.

Keep em coming TFM, keep those horrific scandals coming!

 

I never claimed it was a scandal. Not sure why you and the Prof think I said things I did not.

 

TFM, you are taking the opinion of an ex-staff member who filed a statement in order to justify his unemployment claim. Kind of thin ice, is it not ?

Secondly, you are giving credence to the most extreme of possible explanations here.

To his credit, Cain had a gay staffer.

To his credit, Cain said in response to a question that gay staffers were no different then non-gay staffers.

Then you put unsupported credence in the claims that Cain then surpressed acknowledging he had a gay staffer, while at the same time there are allegations of suspect book-keeping. As noted by another, whose friggin business is it regarding sexuality ? Is Cain supposed to publicize the sexuality of his staffers ? Would it please you if he posted measurements of how long their wangs were ? Who gave good head ? Did you think before you posted ?

And lastly, have you ever had to be a part of an unemployment hearing ? I have sat in several, representing the employer. In many cases, you are rebutting a louse seeking to change the facts in order to claim UI after a rightful termination for cause, who is hoping to make it look like they qualify for free-stuff, when they do not. Half the time, they succeed because the employer fails to send a rep. Not so when I showed up though

I gotta tell you, this is one lame thread. What a shock !!

Libs make me sick.

 

Disgruntled Gay Former Employee:Its because Im gay!!
Yep,sounds about right.

 

sexual orientation,religion,and race are never issues,until they are MADE into issues.Seems to be the trend these days.

 

If you actually read the article you would see that it wasn't the gay man that was bringing the accusation. It was the guy that was supposed to cover it up.