Excellent piece on "racial politics" by Juan Williams...

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  1. Really People?

    Really People? New Member

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    This is a very good read, in which Juan Williams makes several good points in a sort of response to the RGIII fiasco from last week...

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012...rker-and-sad-truth-about-our-racial-politics/
     
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    Not surpising at all. Progressive liberals will throw anyone under the bus who doesn't agree with them. There is no room for those who don't fall in line with the ideology and agenda. This is why you really can't have an honest debate with them:They refuse to debate in a honest manner.
     
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    i blame this kind of attitude on both sides of the arena.
     
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    It's beyond the merely political though. Black people are building their own box, putting themselves in it, and then dares anyone to leave. I don't think that ESPN reporter would have made that attack against RGIII unless he felt a lot of (black) people would agree and support that.

    The attacks against Juan Williams are even more ridiculous. He's not a Republican or has a white fiancee. He's a reliable liberal. One who is willing to go into the depths of Fox News and make the case for his side. But some people consider it treason to even talk to the likes of Hannity or O'Reilly. It's so absurd...
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    What's the cause?
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    40 acres and a mule
     
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    ---Nice article. I agree with the writer's sentiment but want to point out a bit of what I see as hypocrisy. His message can be boiled down to the fact blacks can be represented by ideologies other than rank liberalism, which I agree with. He then refers to Barack Obama as the first "black" president, which, in my opinion, harks back to the "one drop rule", that a "drop of negro blood renders a human being entirely negro". Barack Obama is mixed raced, not black. Barack Obama is not any more black than say, Keanu Reeves is white.

    ---I'm mixed race and when people refer to me as black I find it irritating. It isn't the idea of being identified as black, in itself, that bothers me. It's the dismissal of my mother's contributions, genetically and socially, that bothers me. I have too much respect for my mother for people to insist that I am "just a black guy". It irritates me just as much when blacks refer to me as a "white guy" because of my mannerisms and habits, an equal dismissal of my father's contributions.

    ---I feel that if we're going to be open about black identity and when constitutes it, everything within that spectrum needs to be acknowledged and put out there for discussion. Perhaps a black or white reader will overlook the reference to Barack Obama as the first black president. As a mixed raced person it catches my eye as a glaring misrepresentation. One that I deal with myself.
     
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    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

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    this is what i find funny. If people get mad about a black man dating a white woman, they are labeled as a racist. but at the same time that black man is obviously not black enough and not down with the cause.

    i mean what the (*)(*)(*)(*), folks need to make up their (*)(*)(*)(*)ed mind cus (*)(*)(*)(*) is getting really stupid.
     
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    All I can say is that Robert Griffin III is obviously a bigger and better man than Rob Parker.

    And unless you're a Cowboy fan, I have no idea why anyone would not want to hang with RGIII.
     
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    The us vs them mentality is destructive, but unfortunately seen as a necessity by most liberal black leaders.

    One problem with conservative black leaders is that they are typically not easily manipulated by the conservatives, and so are left to the ravages of radical left wingers as soon as they make a statement not approved by the Republican leadership.

    On the other hand when black conservatives do concede all individual choice to the conservative machine they become exactly what their left wing critics accuse them of being.

    On top of all that they seem to be largely ignored by the right because they do not usually fit their narrative on race in the US. So being conservative for them is a lot like being invisible (talk about color blindness.......).
     
  11. Albert Di Salvo

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    I appreciate your sentiments, but we each get to choose our identity. Obama has chosen the identity of an African American man. That makes him Black.
     
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    ---Touche.
     
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    Seems like he went way beyond anything Jimmy the Greek had to say. But I doubt his position is in jeopardy from his racist remarks.
     

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