Excess Deaths due to COVID and the Vaccine

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Check out the charts in this article.

    Leaked Government & Pfizer Documents reveal Bill Gates & Schwab’s Depopulation Agenda: Covid Vaccines are being used for Genocidal Population Control
    https://expose-news.com/2023/08/31/gates-schwab-pfizer-genocidal-population-control/
    https://stats.oecd.org/index.aspx?queryid=104676#

    If those charts are accurate, it kind of looks like things got a lot worse after the vaccine rollout.
    We have to differentiate between the symptoms caused by COVID and the symptoms caused by the vaccine. This short video shows some of the symptoms caused by the vaccine.

    mRNA vaccines promote cancer, heart damage, blood clots, inflammation, says Peter McCullough, MD
    https://rumble.com/v30uu8a-mrna-vac...damage-blood-clots-inflammation-says-pet.html

    I'd never heard of any of those symptoms when people were dying of COVID before the vaccine rollout so that kind of debunks the theory that Long COVID is causing all the excess deaths.

    Statistics can tell us a lot if we can be sure they're not bogus statistics.
    https://www.google.com/search?sca_e...QEHbPDDF4Q0pQJegQICBAB&biw=1366&bih=651&dpr=1
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Bill Gates seems to have allowed himself to believe he has the obligation to cull the worlds population. As if Microsoft wasn't already an evil in the world already...
     
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    Likely he was conditioned to believe that nonsense. His father was also an advocate for population control.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Nope. You have this ass backwards. The nonsense being believed is by you. Gates has no interest in culling anything. belief in this relies on distorted conspiracy batshit.

    A brilliant goal that all major countries should be part of.
     
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    See batshit, post batshit. Ignore rebuttal, make zero personal commentary or any analysis! EVERY SINGLE POST.
    Fact Check: Dr. Kelly Victory's 'COVID Facts' Video Includes Many Claims That Are NOT Facts | Lead Stories
    Crank.
    Widespread Claims Misrepresent Effectiveness of COVID-19 Vaccines - FactCheck.org
    "And they’ve shown up on a San Diego television station that has a history of promoting dubious claims about COVID-19. The station featured a guest who claimed the CDC had said of the vaccines, “turns out they don’t really work anyway,” and that CDC officials “knew they weren’t really going to do what we said they would.”

    That guest was Dr. Kelly Victory, who holds an active medical license in both Colorado and Ohio, but according to her LinkedIn profile has spent the last 16 years as a consultant for disaster preparedness training. She also campaigned against the Affordable Care Act in 2012.

    Victory has advocated against most public health advice over the course of the pandemic, claiming that “masks don’t work” and that asymptomatic spread “simply doesn’t occur with respiratory viruses.” In one talk radio appearance in 2021, Victory said that she had been “censored” for making those claims. But her claims just aren’t true.

    Other related claims have been pervasive online, such as the meme shared by Donald Trump Jr. suggesting that recently updated guidance from the CDC matches what those who have downplayed the severity of the pandemic and questioned the value of the vaccines had been saying all along.

    But the new guidance doesn’t indicate that health care experts were wrong about the vaccines or any other mitigation measures they had recommended."
     
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    This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about.

    Excess Deaths coming in 2024 w/ Ed Dowd
    https://rumble.com/v469xhu-excess-deaths-coming-in-2024-w-ed-dowd.html

    More here...
    https://rumble.com/search/all?q=Ed Dowd


    I'm just a layman and what these people say makes sense and is consistent with what I see happening around me. That's about as far as a layman can go.

    From what I've seen so far it looks like most of the excess deaths at the start of the pandemic were people being killed by remdesivir in hospitals* and the excess deaths they were saying were being caused by long-covid were really due to the vaccine.

    The viewers can look at all the info and your analyses of it and come to their own conclusions.


    *
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...drug-remdesivir.594757/page-2#post-1074717775
     
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    A ludicrous mixture of hearsay and circular reasoning. The same spam about "what you see around you" meh!
    And again with the now "viewers conclusions" 83 times, spam statement.

    Ignored as usual.
     
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    Ignored. Why the hell should anyone "discuss" anything by @Scott when they don't understand what they are posting and ignore every reply with the same excuse. It's "what they are seeing" and "the viewers can decide".

    CLEARLY, if the viewers are like this, they don't even attempt to decide they simply ignore everything in favor of confirmation bias!!
     
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    See batshit, post batshit, ignore every reply, spam same rhetoric as for justification. Make no attempt at all to EVER quantify or analyze a single thing or to attempt to learn any of the subject matter!

     
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    It is totally obviously complete antivax propaganda.
     
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    Have you even read any of that!? It's from a known disinformation antivax website propagating Russian crap to the easily led.

    Pillars of Russia’s Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem (state.gov)
    "Global Research is a home-grown Canadian website that has become deeply enmeshed in Russia’s broader disinformation and propaganda ecosystem. Its large roster of fringe authors and conspiracy theorists serves as a talent pool for the Russian and Chinese websites with which Global Research has partnered since the early 2010s. Its publications also provide a Western voice that other elements of the ecosystem can leverage to their advantage."

    "Introduction Global Research is the name of the website of the Centre for Research on Globalization in Canada.67 It launched in August 2001 and has been a steady source of anti-U.S. and anti-Western disinformation and propaganda ever since. The Economist referred to it as “a hub for conspiracy theories and fake stories.”68 Internet watchdog NewsGuard noted, “[t]his website severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency.”"
     
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    I don't care what it looks like to you. You are using absurd circular logic. You have not made the slightest attempt to verify a single thing about that link, the data, any medical report, any supporting documentation or look into any of those involved.

    You automatically believed this and dumped it on here. It is beyond absurd that no amount of rebuttal will suffice because circular logic dismisses anything that disagrees with it!
     
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    Instead of focusing on where the article came from, why don't you address what those medical professionals say?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...covid-and-the-vaccine.613477/#post-1074990362
     
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    Instead of ignoring where the article came from, concocting a ridiculous piece of circular logic, why don't YOU damn well do the verifying! You ignore every single reply to your endless links to misinformation/disinformation websites. You never perform any scientific analysis or checks. You never verify the credentials of these "medical professionals"! You post stuff from economists, psychiatrists, discredited and alternative physicians and ignore the replies from REAL medical experts.

    Given all that why should anyone engage with you on anything?
     
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    See batshit, post batshit. No verification, no analysis, no commentary.

    All rebuttal ignored. Why should anyone follow these foolish and incessant links?!
     
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    I'm a medical layman so all I can say is that the info makes sense to me. I'm posting it so it can be discussed. Why don't you address it directly? The viewers can look at the info and your analyses of it and come to their own conclusions. This is what forums are for, right?


    What this scientist says makes sense to me.

    Let a scientist speak
    https://denisrancourt.substack.com/p/let-a-scientist-speak

    Here are some comments on what he says.
    https://denisrancourt.substack.com/p/let-a-scientist-speak/comments

    Go ahead and give a comment of your own.
     
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    HOGWASH! For the 50th time, there are many things a layman can do, but your posts show none of it.
    Get some rudimentary knowledge from online courses. Find ways to disprove or prove the content. Pass comments on the damn content and explain why you think they work.

    Please don't spam the horseshit about "what you see around you". I'm pretty sure nobody is dropping dead en masse in Madrid!

    MEH! They involve more than link dumping!

    Explain why you never do any of that!

    But you are a "layman" who ignores EVERYTHING that doesn't fit with confirmation bias. Zero scientific rationale! He is a physicist, a discredited one at that! Why should we listen to his opinion on an area of science he has no experience in?
    YOU FIRST! See batshit, post batshit. No verification, no analysis, no commentary is not debating.

    All rebuttal is ignored. So why should anyone follow these foolish and incessant links and spend time commenting when you just bypass it and stuff up the next piece of batshit?!
     
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    For those who don't want to click on batshit, we hear some imbecile claiming that there was NO pandemic, nobody died from any virulent strain of sars2, and he has "examined the data" and this is his conclusion!

    This is so utterly moronic it should be stickied!
     

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