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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Boilermaker55, Apr 9, 2018.

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  1. Borat

    Borat Banned

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    Nothing they can find on Trump in confiscated Cohen's documents is admissible in court.... if it was only that easy, when you can't convict someone, raid his lawers office and get dirt. Does not work like that.
     
    Borat, Apr 9, 2018
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    It's obvious that Mueller found out that Stormy's real name is Natasha Vladovostock and she drinks Smirnoff vodka.......so this is all clearly within his mandate to investigate Russian interference in our last Presidential election............
     
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    Trump's cult literally would't care if he was a school shooter.
    Let alone have his lawyer's office ransacked by the FBI for good reason.
     
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  4. The Mello Guy

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    Yes he obtained a warrant because he has nothing, makes perfect sense lol
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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  5. The Mello Guy

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    It does if the lawyer is part of the criminality, it’s also the only way to get that warrant.
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    You have no idea what you're talking about.
     
    Paperview, Apr 9, 2018
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    Post 41 is most assuredly a troll post.
     
    MrTLegal, Apr 9, 2018
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    Nonsense, if a lawyer commits a crime, he goes to jail, but privileged information of his clients remains privileged and inadmissible in court forever.
     
    Borat, Apr 9, 2018
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    Important to note here...this was referred by mueller but it doesn’t sound like it was his team or part of his investigation
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    You can absolutely use information obtained from those confidential communications if they have evidence that Trump ordered Cohen to perform illegal acts.
     
    MrTLegal, Apr 9, 2018
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    Plotting crimes with your clients is not privileged
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    Incorrect.
     
    MrTLegal, Apr 9, 2018
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    Because the attorney-client privilege belongs to the client, the client’s intent determines whether the exception applies. Most courts will apply the exception even if the attorney had no knowledge of, and didn’t participate in, the actual crime or fraud.

    The crime-fraud exception applies if:

    • the client was in the process of committing or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act, and
    • the client communicated with the lawyer with intent to further the crime or fraud, or to cover it up.
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    Exactly.

    This way Mueller is a martyr and can come back later when nothing is done to Trump and say "I woulda got him!"
     
    goofball, Apr 9, 2018
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    This wasn’t mueller
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    The WSJ is reporting that they raided his house, his office, and a luxury hotel that he owns.
     
    MrTLegal, Apr 9, 2018
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  17. The Mello Guy

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    Just a coincidence lol
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    Oh yeah, I forgot that for the right laws don't apply to rich white guys who have been breaking the laws for most of their lives.

    [​IMG]
     
    toddwv, Apr 9, 2018
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    Riiiight.

    ~Stephen Ryan, Cohen's lawyer
     
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    Yep, if Trump told his lawyer that he intended to commit a crime and they put it in writing then the exception applies..... good luck looking for a document like that cause absolutely nothing else is admissible.
     
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    So you think trump appointed a corrupt US attorney in Ny? And I guess the judge must be crooked also? It’s always everyone else lol never trump or his surrogates
     
    The Mello Guy, Apr 9, 2018
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    Rosenstein, a judge, and others had to think there was valid reason for this search...
     
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    that is why they did not give them a chance to destroy evidence
     
    FreshAir, Apr 9, 2018
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    lol.

    No.
     
    Paperview, Apr 9, 2018
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    Well what is that good reason? Otherwise, this is just one more "almost got him" tactic. LOL You lefties are so cute.
     
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