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Facebook is banning far-right militia The Proud Boys after a violent attack in New York

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  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/30/facebook-proud-boys-mcinnes-kicked-off/

    At the time of writing, Facebook’s ban appeared to affect some Proud Boys groups and not others. The profile of Proud Boys founder McInnes appears to still be functional. Facebook’s decision to act against the organization is likely tied to the recent arrest of five Proud Boys members in New York City on charges including assault, criminal possession of a weapon and gang assault.
    They used FB as a tool for recruiting. Perhaps FB doesn't want to be a recruiter.
     
    dairyair, Nov 4, 2018
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Liberals appear to be the primary culprits on this free speech issue, silencing speech of both the left and right.

    Your voice may be next, so I hope you'll wake up before that happens.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 4, 2018
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Free speech in the NPS must be honored.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 4, 2018
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    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Disgraceful behavior by Facebook.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 4, 2018
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  5. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea, but I would assume Antifa-associated accounts would be in greater danger, as they're less mainstream.

    Some have probably been shut down, but I can't speak with certainty.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 4, 2018
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    It maintains & controls a large part the NPS; hundreds of millions participate & exchange ideas there.
    PF is different; it's MUCH smaller. If it hosted millions...
    See above.
     
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    We're in agreement in principle, if not in characterization of various groups.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 4, 2018
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  8. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not with a barrel of a gun.
     
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  9. dairyair

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    Still not public. They pay taxes, not collect taxes.
     
    dairyair, Nov 4, 2018
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    The *public square* IS still available, even more so than before.

    Were newspapers required to give free publishing to all views in 1790?:
    No, but if you felt strongly enough and had the gumption, you could print your own flyers and distribute them yourself.

    Were radio stations required to give free broadcasting to all views in 1920?
    No, but if you felt strongly enough and had the gumption, you could print your own flyers and distribute them yourself.

    Were television stations required to give free broadcasting to all views in 1955?
    No, but if you felt strongly enough and had the gumption, you could print your own flyers and distribute them yourself.

    Are internet sites required to give free bandwidth to all views in 2018?
    No, but if you felt strongly enough and had the gumption, you could print your own flyers and distribute them yourself. You can even create your own website and directly compete with the big guys.

    You have better access to the public square than you ever have. You're still on your own when it comes to accumulating and maintaining an audience however. No one owes you that.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Facebook has an agenda to make money. If the Proud Boys, the BLM, you , me, ANYONE appears to threaten that in the eyes of FaceBook alone then they will be banned. You can hold Hearings all you want, how Facebook chooses who they think will help it make money is Facebook's business, not yours

    You're talking to the wrong people. Buy some Facebook stock, then go to their next stock-holder's meeting and speak up there (and how DOES FB have stock-holder's meetings anyway? They've GOT to be online.)
     
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    Is the New Public Square an entity that actually exists and has some recognition by somebody somewhere? Are you referring to this?

    https://thenewpublicsquare.com/

    or this?



    both of which seem to be Blogs with agendas and neither of which seemed all that interested in overall free speech on the web

    AFAIK there is no blog which does just that, and the rules on titles are such that I think you could make one and get away with it.

    Why don't you, you think you have identified a market? Go for it.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Nov 5, 2018
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    NPS?
     
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    Not literally, no.
     
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    We can agree to disagree; we usually see eye to eye, but it's not mandatory. :)
     
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    Bad examples & a poor argument - no offense. :)

    The platform is there, and the keepers of the NPS want people to participate; that's how the NPS was made the NPS.

    And free speech must be protected there.

    But your voice may be the next one silenced, so don't come miming tears to me if that happens. :p
     
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    Stop me if you've heard this one, but...

    Free speech in the NPS must be honored and protected.
     
    Antiduopolist, Nov 5, 2018
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    Voting for, advocating, demanding, using the government's power to ensure any private entity behaves in accordance with what is in the public's interest according to majority rule is literally using the gun.
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And who in the hell is the keepers of the NPS, and who in the hell made them the arbitrators of what or what not can be read, written, spoken, or expressed?

    Furthermore, no one can silence anyone without a gun.
     
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    Yes; yes. No. An hour? :eek: I dunno - possibly?

    Okay...

    Okay...

    Huh? Thanks!

    :)
     
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    New Public Square
     
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    Not literally, no.
     
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    Facebook, Google, Twitter, Instagram, etc., and no one; have I gotten through? :banana:

    Sure they can.
     
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    Are liberals hate groups such as antifa, black lives matter, and new black panthers allowed on FaceBook?
     
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