Fact Checking the GOP debate

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  1. krunkskimo

    krunkskimo New Member

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2011/sep/07/fact-checking-reagan-library-debate/

    Politifact is fact checking some of the things said yesterday. Here are the pants on fire lies.

    Mitt Romney said his health care bill affected 8 percent of Massachusetts residents. When he made a previous comparison earlier this week that said Obama's affected 100 percent, we rated it pants on fire

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry spoke of his frustration with the federal government failing to approve a request from Texas for health care flexibility. He was likely referring to a request for a Medicaid waiver. When he claimed in December it had languished for two years, PolitiFact Texas rated it Pants on fire.


    There should be more added soon.

    What was your favorite lie of the night?
     
  2. MnBillyBoy

    MnBillyBoy New Member

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    my favorite lie ?

    The fact Check of President Obama.

    FC spent more time on this debate than the entire year of Obama during the campaign.
     
  3. krunkskimo

    krunkskimo New Member

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    of the night?
     
  4. FactChecker

    FactChecker New Member

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    Here are factchecks up to March of 2008

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/25/obama-bashes-clinton-nafta/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/25/fact-sheet-clinton-obama-voting/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/22/texas-two-step/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/13/obamas-present-tension/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/11/obama-alexandria-speech/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/06/obama-abortion-debate/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/01/obama-clinton-too-much-like-mccain/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/22/he-said-she-said/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/mar/07/obamas-20-years-experience/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...7/barack-obama/20-years-is-an-accurate-count/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/29/barack-obama/not-quite-a-blank-check/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m.../if-it-quacks-like-a-lobbyist-its-a-lobbyist/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...obama/he-worked-with-republicans-in-illinois/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-obama/his-record-on-bipartisanship-is-split/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...obama/obama-has-consistently-opposed-the-war/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/09/obama-targets-cayman-islands-tax-scam/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/14/fairy-tale-fracas/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jan/11/attack-e-mail-slams-obama-religion-race/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/sep/25/obama-did-win-health-care-many/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/sep/04/obama-im-magnet-turnout/
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2007/sep/09/does-obama-practice-what-he-preaches/

    If you want more

    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/barack-obama/stories/?page=18

    But I think it's safe to say you're incorrect.
     
  5. MnBillyBoy

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/25/obama-bashes-clinton-nafta/

    Click on your own provided link...
    It is and was about words used when Obama spoke..and Pants on fire lies..for others.

    Even your own deal about Romney is taking stuff and mincing words to extrapolate some un seen value.
    a percentage pt or 2 off on a comment..
    HIS base line.. then you use another.

    You were NOT that forceful vetting Obama before or after.
    Either that or your Facts were not deemed relevant

    Which one ?


    When Romney said that his bill "dealt with 8 percent of our population, the people who aren't insured," he was using as his yardstick the percentage of people in Massachusetts without health insurance.

    When you look back to the period when the bill was passed, Romney’s figure for uninsured residents is basically right. According to Census Bureau data compiled by the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid and the Uninsured and the Urban Institute, 8.9 percent of Massachusetts residents were uninsured in the period 2006-07.


    Meanwhile, Romney said that Obama’s law "dealt with 100 percent of American people." That’s not exactly correct -- the law allows a few categories of people to opt out of the individual mandate, primarily those for whom it would be a financial hardship. But it’s not too far off.


    End.. yes like UNIONS and the 100 % was talking about people effected without a vote.. and your words PRIMARILY are incorrect..Itwas about those who supported this FEDERAL LAW (IMPOSED on others ) while being exempt.
    The 2 laws were not formed or passes in any where near similar fashion.

    which makes this my favorite MISDIRECTION of the night. :)
     

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