For decades, the world's archeological community has been concerned about the significant influence of Zionist Extremist that have been participating in the various Archeological digs in around Israel. The integrity of Canaanite, Egyptian, Phoenician, Amoritic, Arabic & all non Hebrew Archeological sites has been in jeopardy for centuries as Western, Christian hobbyists, archeologists & religiously motivated historians set out to the Holy Land with what some professional Archeologists phrase: “A Bible in one hand and a shovel in the other” This well intentioned & not so well intentioned collection of individuals set out with the primary goal of validating ancient Hebrew Religion / mythology & by extension, Judaeo-Christian Religion / mythology & at the expense of other cultures, ancient & current. I don’t think that it’s unrealistic to suggest that these are not the first or only “Fake Jewish Graves” or similar alteration, destruction & manipulation of Historic "Discoveries" given the fervor & fanaticism of early Zionist Terrorists to secure as much of the Levant as they could get away with. I certainly do not I believe that Archeological tampering is the exclusive property of Jewish & Christians however the Israeli Government has certainly had the near omnipotent authority, ability & motivation to alter Levantine history for well over 1/2 a century. During that time, the Zionist Government has been the occupying power with both the ability & the motive to construct, destroy, alter, enclose via Apartheid Wall etc any part of Palestine, the issue, today are the thousands of “Fake” Jewish graves at the Temple Mount, aka, Al-Haram Al-Sharif, related frauds & the restrictions placed on all worshipers. The reaction of the Netanyahu Regime & its paid network of scripted Hasbarists has been predictable in the face of this & all criminality no matter how heinous: "Blame the accuser (or victim), howl "anti Semite", "Bias" etc etc. In the face of evasion, insults & chronic abusive bombast, however, the thousands[1] of Fake Graves" remain & are proof of a pattern of fraudulent criminality. “‘Fake Jewish graves in Muslim cemeteries’: UNESCO slams Israeli occupation of Palestinian sites” https://www.rt.com/news/340037-israel-unesco-palestinian-sites/ EXCERPT “UNESCO “reaffirms that the two concerned sites located in… Hebron and in Bethlehem are an integral part of Palestine” and “disapproves the ongoing Israeli illegal excavations, works, construction of private roads for settlers and a separation wall inside the Old City of… Hebron, that harmfully affect the integrity of the site,” the statement says. UNESCO slammed Israeli attacks on Muslims in the Temple Mount, which it only refers to by its Arabic name, Al-Haram Al-Sharif, and its holy site, Al-Aqsa Mosque. The organization “strongly condemns the Israeli aggressions and illegal measures against the freedom of worship and Muslims’ access to their Holy Site Al-Aqsa Mosque/Al-Haram Al Sharif, and requests Israel, the Occupying Power, to respect the historic Status Quo and to immediately stop these measures,” the statement says.”CONTINUED [1] “ISRAEL IMPLANTING THOUSANDS OF ‘FAKE’ JEWISH GRAVES AROUND AQSA MOSQUE: PALESTINIAN GROUP” http://islam.ru/en/content/news/isr...h-graves-around-aqsa-mosque-palestinian-group EXCERPT “Al-Aqsa Foundation for Endowment and Heritage said in a report on Monday. “The Israeli occupation of Jerusalem is committing a very ugly crime on Palestinian lands, on Muslim endowment lands, and that is the implanting of thousands of fake Jewish graves in this site,” Abdel Majeed Mohammad, of the Aqsa Foundation was quoted in report as saying. “What we learned from the people of Silwan is that there is limited number of Jewish graves (around Aqsa Mosque). The Israeli occupation is trying to impose a fait accomplice to control Palestinian endowment lands through implanting 3,000 graves.”CONTINUED
Muslims destroyed and desecrated many Synagogues and Jewish gravesites in Jerusalem after the 1948 War
Prior to going on I'd like to see some good faith from yourself in the form of either admitting you lied, were mistaken or proving this idiocy; You said ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" Your proof of this is ""It was, threfore, only natural for him to offer senior positions to Yohanan Ratner...., Fritz Eshet ( a German Army veteran)"" Ratner was a Russian and Fritz Eshet (AKA Fritz (Shalom) Eshet.) served in the Austrian army and came to Israel in 1937. Here's his obit; ""Shalom Eshet, Ex-military by Aide to Ben-gurion, Dies in Israel at 52 Born in Vienna, he was graduated at the Austrian Military College and served as an Austrian army officer before emigrating to Palestine in 1937. He attained the rank of major in the Jewish Brigade."" So, still waiting for some prof that ""so many of its members & leaders"" were SS as the two you mentioned sure were not so that leaves you a few thousand short still.
I don't make statements & then flatly ignore any civil & reasonable requests for supporting them. Regarding them as "idiocy" is far from civil & would serve as an an excellent excuse for for a Hasbara recommended evasion. However, honest debate doesn't need hasbara ploys & evasions. What do you think I've been doing since my last Post here? Answer: 1. Enjoying something unknown to Hasbara Trolls: aka "A very pleasant Life". 2. Researching the early IDF, early 1950s Israeli - German Military, Defense, Armament Agreements, the post WW 2 lives & military careers of Various Nationalities, the German component in the French Foreign Legion & other military services etc etc Coming from the author of reams of laughable, Hasbara-esque "idiocy", I'd be careful before applying the term "idiocy" to what turns out to be a far more plausible statement than you may realize. I was able to find a handful of names of Wehrmacht - SS members who served in the IDF from a source I would not normally rely on: -Ulrich Shnaft: who later worked for the Egyptians -Shlomo Perel -Karel Heinz Meir -Bob Winter -Siegfried Berndat -Afraim Gelzer -Nehamia Werman -Ginther Klauch However, after about 10 - 15 hours of researching, I found that both the Israeli & German governments were / are very secretive [1] [2] about their late 1940s - early 1950s co-operative ventures. The IDF rarely ever releases names of its members & because of the sensitive time period certainly would not sing the praises of former Wehrmacht - SS members in their ranks. During my time in Germany talking to former Wehrmacht, Waffen SS members, many were survivors of uninspected Soviet / Allied/ Zionist (Polish) Concentration Camps that were unlike Germany's Red Cross inspected C. Camps & few had homes, jobs or families waiting for them. Some simply joined the French Foreign Legion. Anyway, the short answer to my statement, below, is that I can't prove that it is true or false primarily because of the secritive nature of the Governments involved. I'm sure that there's more information out there but 10 - 15 hours was all I felt like spending Re: "the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members. ..." So far, the most informative documentation I could find regarding foreign (incl. Wehrmacht - SS members) was the following brief exerpt from what looks like a good book that may reveal more. In the book: Practical Soldiers: Israels Military Thought and Its Formative Factors By Avi Kober, the author writes: EXCERPT "Although the IDF has never consciously selected its commanders by their social group affiliation, during the States early years a hard core of the IDF commanders and staff officers were foreign language speakers of European origin, who were exposed to British, German, Austrian, or Russian military thought. Some of them served in European armies prior to World War 2 or during that war....." CONTINUED On page 58, he goes on to state: Once a regular army was established with the founding of the State of Israel, Prime Minister David ben Gurion encouraged the integration in the IDF of commanders who had military background of regular warfare after serving in the German, Austrian, British, Russian or American armies. It was, threfore, only natural for him to offer senior positions to Yohanan Ratner...., Fritz Eshet ( a German Army veteran)..... P 58; Ch 2.; CONTINUED Perhaps more valuable than experienced military veterans as soldiers was the early German Governments willingness to manufacture & provide weaponry for free when other countries would not. EXCERPT Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel." CONTINUED Most of us already know that the former USSR, USA, French foreign Legion,[3] etc accepted if not welcomed German scientists & military members. In spite of lingering WW 1 & WW 2 propaganda, the WW 2 German military disciplined cruelty, brutality & Geneva Convention violations as severely as any other military if not more so than most. For example the Allies & Germans agreed that there would be certain cities ("Free cities") without military value that were exempt from bombing. Oxford was one English "Free" city & remained untouched. Dresden, however, was among the German "Free" cities & Medieval villages that were destroyed. So, in retrospect, it may be that very few German WW 2 veterans would have been members of a Military force that eagerly participated in horrific massacres like the following: They used to enter houses and kill women and children indiscriminately: Deir Yasin Massacre,(*)09.04.1948 http://avoicefrompalestine.wordpres...-forget-deir-yasin-massacre-09-04-1948/#_ftn3 "A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor (Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself the mopping up as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the mopping up had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives. Womens bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood. Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive. 52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off. Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated. About 60 other women and girls were also killed and their bodies mutilated. British interrogating officer, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, confirmed that: The recording of statements is hampered also by the hysterical state of the women who often break down many times whilst the statement is being recorded. There is, however, no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews. Many young schoolgirls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested. One story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was literally torn in two. Many infants were also butchered and killed. I also saw one old woman who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts. Women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers and parts of some of the womens ears were severed in order to remove earrings.CONTINUED Unfortunately, I don't have the source for the following quote but I don't doubt that Red Cross doctor, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling would disagree with its veracity Re: the IDF, They didnt know how to fight, but as murderers they were pretty good. ( anonymous colonel in the Israeli army) So, maybe you're right, "Drew Benson", there probably weren't many if any former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members at Dier Yassin & other Israeli "victories". I'll bet not one. _ _ _ _ _ In relation to the topic of this thread, if you consider the enthusiastic degree to which Palestine's occupiers erased the lives of Palestine's native men, women & children, it is not mere speculation that they would erase even more traces of their pre-Zionist culture. _ _ _ _ _ [1] GermanyIsrael relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GermanyIsrael_relations Excerpt Germany and Israel have significant and long-standing military cooperation. From 1959 to 1967 the Federal Republic of Germany was a significant supplier of military equipment and arms to Israel.[19] The German-Israeli military cooperation was shrouded in secrecy for a long period, as such an entente was not seen favorably within Israel. However, this tight relationship, translated through arms deal and intelligence sharing, developed into solid trust and ultimately laid the necessary groundwork for the establishment of diplomatic ties.[21]CONTINUED [2] German-Israeli Armaments Cooperation http://www.bits.de/public/articles/cast06-02.htm EXCERPT Israel profited from cooperation by having a reliable and quick source for spare parts and complete weapon systems even in times of war, when other nations like the United States, Great Britain and France were more restrictive in supplying arms to Israel. Another advantage was the willingness of the German government to pay for these exports to Israel. German-Israeli armaments cooperation can be traced back to 1955/56..... Still, very little is known of the extent of this relationship. The few publicly available details usually surfaced in the aftermath of political scandals. The desire for confidentiality and secrecy seems to have been of paramount importance for both states, structuring the cooperation in this sector accordingly. This article will try to shed some light on the hidden history of the German-Israeli armaments cooperation and to identify the dominant factors guiding political, military and industrial decision-making of both states. The author believes that this special bilateral relationship also reveals all facets of the German approach to armaments cooperation as an instrument of foreign and industrial policy.CONTINUED [3] EXCERPT It is documented that ex-SS soldiers both joined the French Foreign Legion and fought in the French Indochina War" CONTINUED FROM: Par Le Sang Versé - La Légion Étrangère En Indochine, Paul Bonnecarrere, Publisher: Fayard (196, ASIN: B000JVBNI8
I didn't even make a note of it but it was not a Forum. If you & your fellow Hasbarist Israel Advocates are so fascinated about the topic why not start your own thread Or.... Perhaps contribute to the topic at hand I started long ago
No of course not, the Friends of Al Asqa handbook requires you to respond to lies using information from non peer reviewed forums when caught. Ulrich Shnaft (1923 - ?) was a German Waffen-SS soldier and World War II veteran, who immigrated to Israel in 1949 by posing as a Jew, served in the Israeli Army, and was later convicted of spying for Egypt. Employed as a translator and never served a day in the German military. No info. No info. No info. No info. No info. No info. Neither does it require Friends of Al Asqa made up stories as you have provided. Out of all your names one has served with the SS and, hid that information from Israel when he entered and served. Then why on earth would you say something as stupid as; ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" Seems you have proven yourself to be not just a Friend of Al Asqa but a member of Al Asqa itself with this disinformation you pull out of thin air just to spew it on discussion forums. I didn't make the idiotic contention and lie of ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" you did so, the onus is on you to prove it and, you cannot. IOWs no proof to back up this lie; ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" So, you came up with one guy who served in the SS and, hid that history from Israel when he served. Thar leaves you a few thousand short of your comment that there were "so many" when you said ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" It requires truth which you have failed to supply to support your Al Asqa trash.
Well I found it on a forum. If you found it somewhere else you should have supplied it when you provided the information as is normal on a discussion medium such as this. But that is not the Al Asqa way is it. I know it is garbage Grau, and, not worth a thread. I'm just trying to show that the information you spewed is false. no wonder you hide behind an anonymous nickname and then cry 'Hasbara' whenever you are caught. No sense, you lied here, tried to cover it up by calling hasbara and then when cornered came up with some false names from an unidentified source and still wont admit you lied so, how are we to even have a discussion if you won't admit you lied? How are we supposed to carry out discussion when we don't know what you were lying about, what you were mistaken about and what you just pulled out of your Al Asqa Aide de Memoir?
Perhaps check your sources before you start threads. The article you quoted features a photograph of the Dome of the Rock mosque with the caption "Al-Aqsa mosque". Whoever wrote this is totally clueless.
Why are you pretending that I have not already responded to your obsessive query 4 times except to for you to engage in cheap personal attacks, regurgitate accusations of "lies", distort what I HAVE said and imply that ALL of my Posts are "lies" when you cannot even disprove the speculations I have made? The answer is easy & a cornerstone in Hasbara Training so popular among Israel's network of paid, full-time & trained Hasbara shills who are unable to refute the Ethnic Cleansing agenda of the Israeli Government & its extensive criminality. Ignoring my repeated responses to a speculative statement I made long ago at another thread gives you the fraudulent opportunity to repeat false accusations so you can: ".....give the appearance of rational debate, whilst avoiding genuine discussion." “Zionism and the art of propaganda: downplaying rationality” http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/03/30/zionism-and-the-art-of-propaganda-downpl EXCERPT: Point Scoring Point scoring is a method of communication that prioritises making certain points favourable to the speaker, and attacking opponents of the speaker by trying to undermine their positions. Point scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate, whilst avoiding genuine discussion. How To Score Points Whilst Avoiding Debate Central to point scoring is the ability to disguise point scoring by giving the impression of genuine debate. Audience members can be alienated by undisguised attacks, so all point scoring needs to be disguised. To disguise point scoring, comments need to seem to be logical, and to follow from what was said before.”CONTINUED Among your genuine lies is that when I actually provided 7 names. The fact that you were too focused on your Hasbara chicanery to research those names was your own choice. My statement that: " ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members"" is unable to be proven or disproven because of the Top Secret nature of early W. German - Israeli military & Defense co-operative agreements. The early IDF does not publicize the names & original nationalities of its early members which were Russian, English, German & other well trained WW 2 War Veterans. For that reason & the Top Secret nature of W. German - Israeli co-operation[1], [2] a breakdown of especially how many German WW 2 Veterans ( Wehrmacht & Waffen SS) does not exist at this time. The only information I could find about Foreign WW 2 Veterans serving in the early IDF were excerpts from the following book: In the book: “Practical Soldiers: Israel’s Military Thought and Its Formative Factors” By Avi Kober, the author writes: EXCERPT "Although the IDF has never consciously selected its commanders by their social group affiliation, during the State’s early years a hard core of the IDF commanders and staff officers were foreign language speakers of European origin, who were exposed to British, German, Austrian, or Russian military thought. Some of them served in European armies prior to World War 2 or during that war....." CONTINUED On page 58, he goes on to state: “Once a regular army was established with the founding of the State of Israel, Prime Minister David ben Gurion encouraged the integration in the IDF of commanders who had military background of regular warfare after serving in the German, Austrian, British, Russian or American armies. It was, therefore, only natural for him to offer senior positions to Yohanan Ratner...., Fritz Eshet ( a German Army veteran).....” P 58; Ch 2.; CONTINUED Additionally, since there were about 150,000 Jews that served in Germany’s Wehrmacht, SS, Gestapo & as Kapos [1], it is at least likely that many of those same German, Jewish WW 2 Veterans served in the early IDF. Zionist Myth-makers & Hasbara Hirelings have gone to great lengths to perpetrate the fraud of an independent, “Self-Made” Israeli “Miracle in the Desert” when the record proves otherwise: “ The documents also reveal how dependent both Israel’s security and its economy were on Germany.”[2] The security of the Zionist Project in Palestine was dependent on both Nazi Germany & post War, W. Germany down to the rifles used by Zionist Terrorist Gangs & the early IDF [3] So, as I have said several times before, since W. German & Israeli Military co-operations remain Top Secret, [2]we don't know the extent to which German WW 2 Wehrmacht & Waffen SS Veterans ensured early IDF success against outnumbered, poorly led, fractious Arab Expeditionary Forces that trickled into the Levant(not “7 unified Arab Armies” Since I have seen no other fraudulent, psuedo-concern as thoroughly addressed as I have in entertaining your insulting & dishonest “Point Scoring” spree, I do not intend to spend any more time on your Hasbara chicanery of Off-Topic, “Point Scoring” as you desperately try to avoid Genuine Debate. [1] “Hitler’s Jewish Army” EXCERPT : “150 000 Jews in Hitler’s(*)Army http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/150-000-jews-in-hitlers-army/ [2] “How Israel Tried to Conceal Its Biggest Arms Deal With Germany” http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.576629 EXCERPTS” The topic was “scientific and military cooperation between Israel and Germany.” Classified as “top secret,” the cable reported that a decision had been made to prevent the matter from being reported in the Israeli media The documents also reveal how dependent both Israel’s security and its economy were on Germany.” CONTINUED [3]“German Israeli Mauser K98 K 98 -- 7.62 NATO dot WWII Bolt Action Rifle” http://www.gunauction.com/buy/12806712 EXCERPT “Markings: The import mark on the barrel reads “K98 GERMANY / C.A.I ST ALB VT”. The top of the receiver is marked with the new Israeli caliber “7.62”, the original Nazi factory code “dot”, a German inspection stamp “Eagle over “63”, an Israeli stamping Circled “Y” and “1944”. The left side of the receiver is marked with the serial number, “Mod. 98”, the remains (most has been scraped out) of a Nazi Eagle over Swastika, a faded Star of David and one more faded Israeli stamping.”CONTINUED
Originally you provided two names when you said this; ""It was, threfore, only natural for him to offer senior positions to Yohanan Ratner...., Fritz Eshet ( a German Army veteran)"" I did some research and found that Ratner was a Russian and Fritz Eshet (AKA Fritz (Shalom) Eshet.) served in the Austrian army and came to Israel in 1937. Here's his obit; ""Shalom Eshet, Ex-military by Aide to Ben-gurion, Dies in Israel at 52 Born in Vienna, he was graduated at the Austrian Military College and served as an Austrian army officer before emigrating to Palestine in 1937. He attained the rank of major in the Jewish Brigade."" Neither of the two were members of the SS or even the German army. Then you came up with a list of names with nothing else, no link to where you got them, any proposed history just names. I once again did your research for you and found one out of all of them that was ever SS and that person never disclosed he was SS to Israel and was convicted for spying for Egypt. The remainder of the names were just that, names with no record anywhere save a blog. Hardly proof to back up your claim that ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" So, having one spy for Egypt is the proof you have supplied to back up your claim that ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members."" Either you are lying or very mistaken which still makes you an mutterer of a falsehood as you didn't know there was only one guy, and a spy at that who ever was a member of the SS and was in the IDF as the proof you tried to find to support your contention was not only non existent but supplied long after you said this statement. That shows us all that you make things up and then when getting called up scramble to see if what you said was true to begin with. You pulled it out of thin air to begin with and now say you could prove a negative if only your had access to top secret information? Where on earth did you get your original fantasy from that the IDF had so many Waffen SS members that they made a decisive force, the top secret stash in your behind? Gruo you make me laugh. X 50!
A BIBLE IN ONE HAND AND A SPADE IN THE OTHER While my current Post is related to the topic of this thread & has to do with Archeology, I feel compelled to respond to the above Post #12 in which the Poster has repeatedly attempted engage in relentless, Off-Topic Hasbara "Point Scoring" at this and at least 3 other Threads. His/her insulting deceptions, lies of omission & personal attacks have been entirely unrelated to the Topic of this thread & the 3 others. I have responded 4 times fully addressing his / her Off-Topic insulting & fraudulent Hasbara ploys at the other threads but cannot allow him / her to continue in this obvious Off- Topic, Hasbara chicanery without one, last rebuttal. The nature of this Posters faux concern & rhetorical ploy is best explained below to those unfamiliar with Israel's State sponsored Propaganda Agenda and its extensive network of trained, paid & scripted Hasbara hirelings (aka "Hasbara Trolls"). I do not mean to characterize the Poster but only his / her fraudulent, obsessive & insulting aspersions. Zionism and the art of propaganda: downplaying rationality http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/03/30/zionism-and-the-art-of-propaganda-downpl EXCERPTS"Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. "Point Scoring Point scoring is a method of communication that prioritises making certain points favourable to the speaker, and attacking opponents of the speaker by trying to undermine their positions. Point scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate, whilst avoiding genuine discussion. "How To Score Points Whilst Avoiding Debate Central to point scoring is the ability to disguise point scoring by giving the impression of genuine debate. Audience members can be alienated by undisguised attacks, so all point scoring needs to be disguised. To disguise point scoring, comments need to seem to be logical, and to follow from what was said before.CONTINUED _ _ _ _ _ _ A BIBLE IN ONE HAND AND A SPADE IN THE OTHER An earlier article cited the fraudulent planting of Jewish graves in land holy to Muslims & related activities by politically and / or religiously motivated Zionists to impart a greater, ancient Hebrew / Jewish presence in the Levant than existed in reality. This current one attempts to address the crime against civilization by historic Palestine's existing Zionist Occupier of plundering thousands of Archeological sites & secreting the artifacts of countless pre-existing civilizations in an obscure warehouse accessible to a select few. As even casual students of Levantine history know, the Levant / historic Palestine has been long occupied by Canaanite, Egyptian, Phoenician, Amoritic, Arabic & countless other non Hebrew civilizations since pre Historic times. Unfortunately historic Palestines current Occupier exercises complete control over the West Bank & since 1967, the IDF has looted over 6,000 sites & stored all artifacts found in a huge warehouse to which very few privileged individuals have access. EXCERPT Since 1967, the IDF has surveyed and excavated over 6,000 sites in the occupied West Bank, filling military warehouses with artifacts and refusing to publish any data. The curtain was lifted in 2007, when Israeli researchers successfully sued the IDF's Staff Officer for Archaeology to report his unit's activities and discoveries in the region. The artifacts remain hidden away, but this interactive map allows users to virtually explore each site, sorted by time period.CONTINUED [1] Rather than simply copy the entire, compelling article, I will only cite excerpts with the hope that readers of this Post will read the article in its entirety: The Biblical Pseudo-Archeologists Pillaging the West Bank http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...archeologists-pillaging-the-west-bank/273488/ Finding the elusive, unregulated Israeli bureaucrat who lets American evangelicals run amok in the Palestinian territories. EXCERPT The discovery of the scrolls 50 years ago galvanized a resurgent evangelical movement, many of whose members heralded the creation of Israel as evidence of the coming rapture. Since then, the Holy Land has attracted a long succession of academic zealots seeking to tether stories in the Bible to the archaeological record. Price has spent the last ten years searching for remains of an ascetic Jewish priesthood whom he believes settled in the desert wilderness of Qumran to await the coming of the Messiah and the End of Days. Price....never actually received a degree in archaeology, he built a global network around his brand of Near East biblical scholarship with an apocalyptic bent. ... has openly called for the United States to declare war on Islam. ....Price says his own work underwrites Israeli precedence in some Palestinian land Price's politics are unlikely to disrupt his access to the Qumran plateau, however. Located in the West Bank, permits to excavate around Qumran are not issued by the Palestinian Authority, but rather by Israel's Civil Administration. ...allows Israeli officials and religious pseudo-scientists to cooperate in raiding cultural treasures. ...specifically, who has the right to dig, interpret, and store artifacts--is a wedge issue that ties into broader struggles over resource control in the occupied territory. Though Albright's movement was ultimately discredited, it continues to influence new generations of religious scholars who, as one popular adage goes, "hold the Bible in one hand and a spade in the other." - Backed by church funding, today's biblical archaeologists are often under pressure to deliver distinctly biblical discoveries. - William Albright, spent the early 20th century building what became known as the Albrightian Consensus, the convention that archaeology provides physical evidence for the Old Testament--which, conversely, can be used as historical source material in planning and conducting digs. - Raphael Greenberg, a prominent Israeli archaeologist .... estimates the majority of funding for excavations in Israel and Palestine comes from religious sources. As a result, he said, researchers are plagued by financial pressure to produce religiously significant discoveries. - Greenberg said (Qumran) attracts no end of oddballs Over his career, Greenberg said he has observed an unsettling willingness on part of Israel's Civil Administration to grant access to fringe applicants like Price. Many of them are denied permits to dig within Israel, with its strong regulatory system, only to be approved to excavate in Israeli-controlled areas of the West Bank, he said. - the Archaeology Department of the Civil Administration (ADCA) .... is a notoriously secretive organization whose leader, the Staff Officer for Archaeology (SOA) -- an elusive man named Hananya Hizmi -- enjoys a staggering amount of power within his jurisdiction. He is immune from oversight, exempt from excavation licenses for his own digs, enjoys a lifetime term, and is not required to publish his finds, the majority of which reside in storage facilities under his sole control. The West Bank is, in effect, his personal sandbox, and he is loath to divulge information about his operations."CONTINUED AT: The Biblical Pseudo-Archeologists Pillaging the West Bank http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...archeologists-pillaging-the-west-bank/273488/ So, when you listen to individuals cite that ancient Palestine is "the Land of the Jews", it is important to remember that the artifacts of many civilizations whose "Home" it was for much longer & much earlier are stashed away under the control of yet another temporary tenant of the tumultuous, ancient & ever-changing Levant
I like this response very much, I suspected he worked for the Arabs... Maybe he is a paid writer for them
