Fantasy Demolished - U.S. Climate Goals Threatened by "Green" Power demands

Since we are only one country in this world, what gives us the right to alter everyone's atmosphere?
It stands to reason what is good for us may be bad for some other country.
Unless we build a glass dome, we are saying we can affect everyone else's climate because we are the arrogant USA.

 

One day they heard Alex Jones, or Rush or Tucker calling models of probability "doomsday scenarios", and posters like @Shutcie LOVED the word. They mindlessly repeat it because they think it makes them look "informed". But it only makes them look more like Alex Jones, Rush and Tucker: complete ignorant slobs who believe that a scientific model is a prediction.

 

Excellent.
Show one of those "doomsday" predictions that has proven true.

New york under water?
New york under ice?
No ice at the poles?
Coastal cities flooded?
World famine?

 

Is China going to go "green"? I don't think so.

 

They keep trying that American/White guilt thingy.

 

The US:

4% of the world population, but >25% of the world's cumulative green house gas emissions. What give us the right?

https://www.statista.com/statistics...es was the,birth of the industrial revolution.

 

Sure, but it's important to remember that even with all the changes made in the last 30+ years, our carbon output has only gone down like 2% or something.

It's really spitting into the wind, and, even worse, doesn't even count.

If our demand for solar/wind is a 2% decrease in 30 years, and China has had a 400%+ increase in 30 years.....why are we funding Chinese coal plants to build solar panels?

It's really really dumb.

 

What gives you the right? You could give it up anytime you wanted.

 

That's not what he said at all.

The current electrical grid does not support the additional increase, nor are the connections there. The grid is the heart. If the grid isn't in place, then all this EV mandate stuff is nonsense.

EV's are, and will continue to be, niche products. Lack of charging stations, demands on the aforementioned grid, time it takes to charge, and distance limitations drastically reduce their share of the transportation market.

All leftist "green" mandates are as arbitrarily pulled out of their *** as the "6 foot apart" covid nonsense.

What's worse, ****ing China is the primary manufacturer for all this crap.

 

That is EXACTLY what you said and just repeated.

Admitting how ridiculous it sounds then restating the premise is...not a successful argument.

 

When?

 

More correct is to say "the market should..." It can't happen because of government.

 

When our economy crashes.

 

We live in hope.

 

So this is about redistribution of wealth? Got it.

 

Yes it can.

 

Another drive by disagreement.

 

Who do you think put up our infrastructure?

 

Too complicated to answer. There are many different groups that did.

 

The point of "free energy" is to make it everything but free and be metered by those who controls the power grids.

 

Rural electrification, interstate highway system, just for starters.

 

As I said, there are many groups. Thanks for mentioning a couple.

 

Baloney.

No one has suggested that we "stop all renewable research and implementation".

What's ridiculous is leftists thinking a country with DOUBLE the carbon production of the US increasing it's carbon by 400% since 1990...to reduce US carbon production by 2-3% in the same time frame....is something they should clap like seals for.

It's the dumbest thing ever.

 

so you think any effort at pollution reduction is "the dumbest thing ever."

I'll leave that stand.

 

Adding two coal plants per week in China to build solar panels isn't reducing pollution.