Fast-food workers strike nationwide in protest against wages

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  1. Object227

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    That's an irrelevant question unless one can illustrate that they ever deserved ANY level of purchasing power merely by existing and having a job. That's the whole point isn't it? Workers aren't paid to afford anything. They are paid to perform a job. You do X in exchange for Y (where X = a job, Y = compensation). This is a basic formula illustrating a trade relationship. All such relationships to be valid, must be voluntary and the terms are for the parties to the contract to decide, not an outside party with no skin in the game.
     
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    Your weird opinion. Most posters are complaining because they think workers are not doing enough to improve their value to our society. First time that I heard workers do not contribute to society.
     
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    I didn't say workers don't contribute to society or the economy. I said that workers are not paid by employers to do so. Read what I wrote.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Are you on drugs? I worked for 75 cents an hr stocking shelves in the late 60s. My first office job paid $80 every two weeks... and I was 'skilled' by then!

    In the time you've spent posting on this thread, you could be halfway thru truck driving school. Big demand for drivers and you could make a decent living.
     
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    But they won't get that wage. If you drive up the cost of labor, you drive up the cost to the customer. The customer isn't going to pay that cost. No customers.... no business no jobs..... No jobs.... no wages.

    I'm not going to pay $20 for a cheap fast food burger. It's not worth $20. So all that other crap you spewed, doesn't matter. The customers are not going to enough for a cheap fast food burger, to pay for your mythical 'living wage'.

    It will not break down the system, no. All the other jobs that have labor worth more money, will not be directly affected. But those jobs that don't produce enough wealth to pay out whatever arbitrary number you deem to be 'livable wage', will. And those jobs will disappear.

    Making it even more difficult for people to gain the work experience needed to move up the ladder.

    Further, it will drive up inflation, which will make what you consider a 'livable wage' less livable in your view.
     
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    "deserve" has nothing to do with it. The value of labor is what determines how much you get paid. And the value of labor is not determined by the employer, or the employee. The value of labor is determined by the customer.

    The truth is, an employer would LOVE to deem your labor worth a million dollars a year. Because the employer would get a cut in that million.

    If you owned a lawn mowing service, and I was your employee, you would LOVE to pay me a million dollars a year, because that means you were able to charge the customers $50,000 per cut, and still make a healthy profit, while paying me a million bucks.

    The problem is.... you can't get the customer to pay that much. Which means, that no matter what dumb excuse I come up with about how your evil, and I "deserve" more money and blaw blaw blaw blaw leftist stupidity blaw blaw blaw........ you can't pay me more than how much the customer is willing to pay. "BUT BUT LIVABLE WAGE BLAW BLAW BLAW!" Does not matter.

    You can't pay more than what the customer is willing to pay. Period. Nothing else matters. No babbling about livable wage, or purchasing power or anything else, makes any difference.

    So back to the burger flippers. Do you think a customer is going to be willing to pay $20 for a value meal, because the employee, and a bunch of moronic leftists on a forum, demand a livable wage? Of course not. I can promise you, that I am not going to pay that much for a cheap burger.

    Therefore, the fast food companies will have two options, and neither of them involve paying an employee a livable wage. Either they will close, or they will replace employees with robots, just as McDonalds has started doing throughout Europe.

    Right when Europe needs low-wage jobs desperately, McDs is replacing employees with Kiosks.

    The same will happen here.
     
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    Have you lost your memory? I started at $50 per week. I was in my twenties during the 60s. We lived a lot better on less back then and you know it. $4,800 was the cap on paying SS, not $108,000.

    Keep trying to fool people with how low wages were. The cost of living was much lower back then too.
     
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    Thread Closed ~ Surpassed post capacity
     
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