Father slit throats of three daughters in 'honour killing' after they were raped

How about the moral equivalence of doing it for gender reasons? With the millions of rapes & sexual assaults worldwide every year perpetrated by every group across the globe, I find it hard to accept the premise that as there is ideological association within some Islamic communities to 'honour killings', that violence against women is primarily an Islamic 'thing'.

Standing back a step it looks like it always has looked, predominantly male violence against women. Accepting that Western cultures condemn these behaviours is all good and well but how often would you still run across the memes of 'scantily dressed = scant morals' and 'physical attraction = provocation of uncontrollable impulses'. Those may not be written into our ethical codes as binding justification but for all intensive purposes they are a reality for many in the civilised West.
Not that that should necessarily invoke isolationism but I'm interested in the logic behind apportioning a moral high ground to different groups sailing in an ocean.

 

Why are you so rude? No one is laughing.

 

I dont know, seems they do a pretty good job of sucking off the welfare themselves...

 

Wow. That is disgusting. I really don't understand the whole honor killing thing but I definitely do condemn it. Anyone who is willing to murder their child because they were the victim of rape has done a very evil act in my book.

 

Yet, we have people today clamoring on this website to allow Sharia Law to be used here in America.

 

50,000 US males died in suicide attacks on German cities with the intent to burn to blast & death as many of their Christian German relatives to death as they could.

USA has been at war with Christians in Kosovo, Bosnia, Iraq, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, & Syria.

Millions have died at the hands of Shieze Kopf US kill crazy military personell and politicians. And some bozo wants to whine about some guy killing 3 girls.

US military policy since Lincoln:
"extermination, not of soldiers alone, that is the least of the trouble, but the people" ....

Sherman elsewhere declared "We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

Around 1902 in another attempt to "clean" for "world order"

US General Jacob H. Smith tells the commanding officer of the Marines assigned to clean up the island of Samar, Philippines:

"I want no prisoners.

I wish you to kill and burn;

the more you kill and burn the better it will please me."

He orders that the entire island of Samar be converted into a "howling wilderness." He specifically orders that all males over the age of ten are to be shot. Step one is to burn the town of Balangiga to the ground.


We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.
Ayn Rand

 

1902?

 

Apparently Ivan-88 needs some help with the definition of "today" Here ya go, Mr. 88:

 

Such a work of a coward and narrow minded person,
Instead of crying for justice and trying to get one for the sake of her daughters he resorted
towards killing them.
Actually he became a part of that evil process after the consumption made by the wolves
he disposed the carcass so that no one could see it, no one would laugh at him deriding that he is so stupid
unable to protect his own.

 

I don't think there is a verse in the Quran which specifically requires that honor killings be done against rape victims. There is a verse which says that killing a family member to preserve a family's honor can be done, but the context of that verse appears to be referring to a slain son and doesn't appear to be sexual in nature.

I have been studying Islam some lately and so I thought I would share this. Possibly someone else knows more about it than I do.

 

Really?

Got some examples of anyone expressing desire for Sharia Law requests to allow "honor killing" and such here on PF?

 

He is no different than us. We did the same sort of stuff towards Germany, Japan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Katanga, Panama, Guatamala, Native North Americans and many others.

You can't honestly blame others when you do even worse things than they.

 

No it's the other way around,
they consider the victims during that era as not a part of them.

 

Yes, that is a standard dodge. But they also have tons of excuses for their current viciousness.
Like kids, "I won't do the wrong my parents did. I'll do my own wrongs."

 

Actually it has the same bottom line,
different ways same effect, same result.