FBI official investigated for allegedly altering document in 2016 Russia probe

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  1. MolonLabe2009

    MolonLabe2009 Banned

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    An FBI employee is now under investigation for altering a FISA warrant against Carter Page.

    This is just the beginning. The John Durham investigation is going to expose a lot of Democrats and deep staters.

    Buckle your seatbelts.

     
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    Examples will have to be made.
     
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    Yeap we're about to start seeing leaks so the dems can get in front of this. Can't wait to get Ego's and T's take I'm sure it'll be a riveting couple weeks. What a sober interview wow, they know it's bad.
     
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    What if multiple deep staters are charged, will the msm cover it?

    Get your popcorn. This will be interesting.
     
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    CNN is reporting this exclusive...so yes?
     
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    It remains to be seen the quality or significance of the alteration or whether the individual remains in the government, so maybe pump the brakes a little?
     
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    No Fox has it as well, probably everyone but MSNBC. The story is the he was interviewed and admitted it and it's substantial. If it turns out to be true this is really really bad stuff and pretty scary when your not only talking about a citizen but a presidential candidate, wow.
     
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    The FISA warrant was against Carter Page, so no, not a presidential candidate.

    CNN was the first to break the story with the exclusive, but if Fox News is adding to that report by saying that "it's substantial," that's interesting.
     
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    Come on T don't start with that BS, you know as well as everyone else in the world everything Paige did was listened in on and then the program listened in on whoever he talked to moving forward as well. Hello Mr Snow the dem hero, already told us how all this works.
     
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    The reporting is that the official is a mid-level lawyer who has been relieved of his position.
     
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    Was he with the campaign at that point?
     
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    what I expect is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. Horowitz and Durham, despite infuriating delays, from my POV, have not been idle.

    I dont think all the digging is going to generate 1 single fall guy.
     
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    To remind you they did four fisa's and yes during the campaign all the way to inauguration. I'm willing to wait until we find out the facts but if true this good threaten the very fabric our country is founded on.
     
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    ...No. Carter Page was not with the campaign at the time of the first FISA warrant, let alone any of the subsequent warrants.
     
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    lol ok T guess we'll find out the truth soon.
     
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    Yea, I pretty much expected a firing at a minimum. Falsifying any aspect of a document to the court is going to get you fired. The significance of the alteration is what will probably determine whether additional penalties are pursued.
     
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    Sorry, my mistake.

    The individual is a low-level lawyer who no longer works with the FBI.
     
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    ...It isn't that hard to confirm. You can check his wiki page. Here.

    Now, if you want to argue that Trump was being surveiled because he continued to communicate with a guy that his campaign communications director said was "never been a part of our campaign. Period." then...well...I guess I would also like to know why Trump is talking to that guy.
     
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    oh yea all on the up and up no problems, I'm sure what's breaking is fake news nothing for you to worry about.
     
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    I'll refer you to my correction: "The individual is a low-level lawyer who no longer works with the FBI.".

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-in-2016-russia-probe.564687/#post-1071184637

    The reporting only characterizes the alteration as "substantive".
     
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    I am not dismissing the gravity of the reporting. I am saying that your assertion or implication that Trump was being spied on improperly because of this reporting is blatantly wrong.
     
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    Appreciate it. The "substantive" description is still very vague. Altering the dates of when evidence was collected or the names of the sources is a substantive alteration, for example. Still a fireable offense, but unclear whether the alteration was a make or break point on the FISA application.
     
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    Yeah, but it's a word that makes it sound bad.

    Lol.
     
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    With the limited information that's been provided up to this point it's speculation to assume anything. I still think this is just the first ball to drop and additional info may make this detail more or less relevant.
     
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    He was associated with Trump, and he was used as a basis to start the Russia hoax.

    I thought rumors of this were just RW conspiracy theories?
     
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