FDR and his policies prolonged the Great Depression by 7 years

And you regurgitate right wing lolbertardian talking points - what is your problem with book learning?

It's none of your business what I do in my personal life.

 

No, I have life experience.

In your world, everything works on paper.

And if it doesn't then you say things like "you are voting against your own interests."

 

No, in my world we weigh options on paper so as to assess the pros and cons of a particular course of action before taking it, rather than blindly tramping in because of "life experience" or "instinct".

Anti-intellectualism is one of the reasons why this country is going to pot. You have failed to learn the lessons of history or understand why the sciences are important.

 

Again, a subjective view of what people should be buying and where they should be working based on your preferences. As for exploitation accusation, it's a ridiculous, unsupportable charge. If anyone is being exploited, it's those trapped on welfare and those who cannot overcome the minimum wage requirements and thus cannot find work and must turn to the black market and the prospect of spending time in a cage in order to provide for themselves. No doubt that is "social justice" to you.

In other words, mercantilism. It's still controlling the preferences of others. You just want to do it in such a way that your victims are less likely to know about it, or perhaps even eat up the protectionist propaganda and vote for more of it.

 

We should be reading more Marx, perhaps, in order to understand that anyone buying low quality goods and working for employers you don't like are morons and exploited victims?

No, but you are all too happy to see violence done on your behalf in order to have the personal lives of others controlled to match your preferences.

 

So you have no life-experiences.

My country is going to pot because we have a President who believes what is written in your books and has failed over and over again in government.

That's not intellectual.

 

Good, as it should be. Social programs should be "help", not "support".

 

No, the country is going to pot because the common person is not learning their lessons and are not making educated decisions at the polling booth. The People are the problem, the government is merely a symptom.

 

I have no problem with book learning.

I did that already.

The longer you live, the more you understand nothing works the way it does in books.

 

Yes, but they think they are making educated decisions.....after all, the media is telling them everything they need to know.

 

Oh, you're the ruling-class-knows-best-zombie.

I forgot.

 

I don't hold much stock in Marx beyond that he identified a number of problems to be redressed.

I seek to minimize risk, detriment, and ensure that the information is available for the people who seek it.

 

You clearly didn't read enough or very well, because it tends to turn out the way it has before - what America is going through is a replica of what happened in Europe in Late Antiquity and again in 18th century France.

 

Yes, and undoubtedly the same sort of partisan fool who is backing Obama, no matter what the damage, was standing behind FDR when his mistaken wrongheaded policies made the Depression drag on long after it should have been stopped.
Doomed to repeat the failures of history....our "friends" on the left.

 

Lol, so because you have "real life" experience, you feel that you are qualified to effectively manage our $14 trillion, 310 million people economy?

That's the problem with the uneducated... they think they have it all figured out because they "lived" through it. Well, no one really learns monetary policy in the real world, or how to control inflation.

That's why Ron Paul is so dangerous!!! He believes the majority can regulate themselves. That has been tried and is being done right now... in 3rd world country's!

As Winston Churchill put it...
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."

 

No, the little puppy dog can't manage that.

I have nothing to add to the assertion that people who have lived a long time can't act in their own self interest and have to defer to a ruling class.

That's all you need to know about these people.

 

You are very correct, Yosh Shmenge.

The misguided liberals who supported Lyndon Johnson and his wasteful "Great Society Program" now support Barack Obama. Here is what we can continue to expect from the policies of Barack Obama.



This is what the liberal Democrats often do when they foolishly tax and spend and drive the middle class out of the central business districts of the urban cities.. America's Beautiful, Horrible Decline courtesy of the foolish, tax and spend and very misguided liberal Democrats!

http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...850982,00.html

Lee Plaza Hotel
Once one of the most luxurious residential hotels in Detroit, Lee Plaza closed in the 1990s.

 

Took a few decades to figure out the crap I was spoonfed was, indeed, crap.

Write me when you catch up.

 

Maybe you just never figured out what they were saying.

 

Eh, eh, one time my in-laws needed to purchase an umbrella for their 40 year old table outside near the pool.

These people could afford anything they wanted. They drove around ALL DAY until they found an umbrella for 14.99 at Boscov's.

The rich don't spend. They keep everything they bought 40 plus years ago and don't even buy cars until the ones they have are dangerously falling apart.

They don't re-decorate, they don't purchase one thing that isn't an absolute necessity.

That's how the rich stay rich...they don't spend money like the rest of people do.

They have cast iron porch furniture from the 1960's that could break your back if you weren't careful.

They buy atrocious junk from QVC, and the cheapest stuff at that. They don't buy one extra portion for anything at the food store. If an extra person shows up at dinner time, they will tell you, "it's dinner time, see ya later".

My mother-in-law still makes receipes from the great depression and WWII, recipes that use mayonaise instead of rationed butter.

I could go on, but you get the idea. One time I had a job and the owner of the company was a doctor's wife who dripped in sapphires and rubies, but when she bought regular soda instead of diet, she returned the soda and got the diet soda.

Rich people don't spend an extra penny, that's the sad thing about trickle down economics. Nothing at all trickles down, if you expect anyone but noveau riche to spend money, and the noveau's are strapped for cash now.

Old money is as tight in good times as they are in bad.

 

There was also the matter of rationing and savings. Personal savings rates were at a historic high during the transition from depression to boom.

 

GDP includes government spending, so it's no surprise that GDP would increase during FDR's Presidency.

The unemployment rate was a much better indicator of the actual state of the economy and it remained persistently high until WWII, when rationing was implemented, savings rates were high, and capital was flowing to sound investments.

 

Poor old people trickle down even less.

 

Don't show up the book smart people in this thread with no life experience, mkay?

 

AshenLady,

I hope you don't think all wealthy people behave as your in-laws do!

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (D), however, may be an notable exception!

Check this out.