Federal appeals court says Trump is not immune from civil lawsuits over Jan. 6 Capitol attack

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  1. Alwayssa

    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    What Trump allegedly did does not fall under the purview of being President. It was outside his duties as President. However, this lawsuit will take years, and may be delayed if Trump is reelected. But this lawsuit will be interesting if and when it goes forth. I don't see Trump settling this even though that would be the most prudent move.
     
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    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't need to use allegedly in this context.... The Appeals court (and later Chutkan) said what he was doing on Jan 6th were non-presidential activities... Whether said actions are criminal is where you can bring in allegedly...

    Also, there are multiple lawsuits against Trump that can proceed after this ruling, not a single.one.... although I suspect they are all essentially the same and probably should be consolidated at some point.
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    Is everything he does while president part of his presidential duties?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not even that he was president. I would still think this would be just as applicable if he were a political candidate for a high level position.

    I'm not saying him being president at that time is not a factor at all, whatsoever, but the main point is that this was a call for a political demonstration.
    It's a thin line to start holding someone responsible for public words that could possibly be considered "incitement".
    (And even if we do choose to punish a person for such words, surely it is not reasonable to hold them primarily financially responsible for any damages, which were committed by other people)
     
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    This ruling doesn’t say any of those cases will go forward or that they have merit. JUST that being president doesn’t protect him from lawsuits for actions that weren’t part of the official duties.
     
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    Get even more communist!


    Biden admin tracking all Americans who traveled to DC on Jan. 6, 2021: Report
    I'd have went with communist but I'm sure the D folks would have yelled NAZI, if this took place under the last administration..

    The funniest part is they are/were tracking a newborn that that was born after J6, lmao..

     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure -- Absolutely - We had a reality TV star in the White House -- saying the most moronic and stupid things -- fallacies up the Yang .. what else did you expect ? but . why is it so funny that we have Blue one -upping the Trump Gutter ? - just a continuation of "Same as the Old Boss" taking us down the path to collectivist Police state - and economic ruin.

    I missed the humor Joe .. so get up off the floor .. wipe away the spittle .. put your A back on that you lost laughing so hard .. and tell us why you think is so funny about Blue imitating Trump ?
     
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    I do know sophist nitpicking when I see it.
    With our legal system, sometimes civil suits are the only way to hold criminals to account.
     
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    Since you ask so nicely, I'll respond.
    I'm sorry, but the notion that Biden is another trump is a maga brainfart and I don't argue with people's delusions.

    If you can't deal with the fact that trump is a clear and present danger to our country, engaged in a months long criminal effort to subvert and overturn the election he lost, and has been clinging to his baseless claims, poisoning the minds of simple people and attacking our democracy and the rule of law ever since to nurse his malignant narcissism, then I can't pander to your deep denial.
    The truth is that trump's' crimes are still unique in our history.
    We need to keep it that way and not damage our country further by pandering to a malignant narcissist.
     
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    Alwayssa Well-Known Member

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    The word allegedly are the charges Trump is facing in Chutkan's court. That is the reason why I said allegedly.
     
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    It isn't nitpicking to point out the difference between a civil trial and a criminal trial.
     
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    Your are the on e that likened a description of Biden's dirty deeds to that of Trump .. now you say the notion that Biden is another trump is a "maga brainfart and I don't argue with peoples delusions" -

    Considering this is your delusion perhaps you should argue with .. or at least wrestle with this delusion.

    Trump is not the President any more and so the idea that he is some clear and present danger .. to use your words - is the delusion here. .. what is Dirty Donald going to do ? how can he attack the Rule of Law like what Biden is doing .. and we don't have a democracy .. but how would Trump attack it if we did .. Call it the Constitutional Republic .. what is bad old Carrot Top up to know that I have yet to hear about .. and surely the Russians are involved .. right ? or is it the Israeli Donor Class that you are concerned about ? .. Please tell us how Trump is some threat to our Blessed constitutional republic .. but then also address the major Biden Woke Joke Threat .. canceling the Rule of Law and the Constitutional Republic.
     

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