Federal Judge rejects GOP push to toss 127K ballots in Texas

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    thank Goodness some common sense is prevailing.
     
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    Why, do people need to vote in a drive through?

    Why suddenly is going to a poling location and voting on a ballot with appropriate oversight by election workers from both sides suddenly so problematic?
     
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    Everyone (key word is everyone) knows that trump is going to do anything and everything he can to steal this election and no one, including conservatives who still have an ounce of integrity, want to be considered aiding the retard.
     
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    The same reason why your Governor says you need to wear a mask.

    Any more silly questions?
     
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    Why do Republicans want to invalidate the votes of people who were following the rules that were in place at the time they voted?
     
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    Why Trump HAD TO Facebooked that mail-in-ballot extension will induce violence, and guess who will want to prove him right?
     
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    I'm not sure about the drive in ballots but I cannot see how any election can be fair if votes can be accepted after election day. The common sense approach would be to make it mandatory for all mail in ballots to be sent 2 week prior to the election so they are all received before or on the day. No matter who wins, the result will be contested because of this idiotic rule.
     
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    How Trump has communicated his wishes?

    Trump; “I tweet and retweet people’s opinions. I’ll put it out there, and people can decide for themselves. I don’t take a position”

    Yeah, right!
     
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    His right wing peeps, of course. I read that they are painting blue dots on the homes of Biden supporters.
     
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    The earliest a state certifies the vote count in the US is November 11th (south dakota) the latest is the 11th of December (california). So it's not like there is an official winner the day after the elections. We have just gotten very good at predicting the outcome early and calling it using stats.
    Each state has also it's own laws as when a vote needs to be received to be counted. In ALL cases they need to be postmarked before the 3rd of November. Making allowances for the slow delivery in the mail to make sure every vote is counted seems pretty normal to me. Especially since it does not in any way alter the timeline of official certification.

    Note that some states say that it must be received by Nov 3, some up until november 20.

    I do however agree that each state running it's own sh@t show election with it's own sh@t show rules has gotten really tiresome. One federal rule would be so much better
     
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    Out of curiosity, what do you think should be done when people have been waiting for hours to vote in person and it goes beyond the official voting time (ie 8PM) because states invariably don't put in enough manpower to run an election properly?
     
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    We have had that situation here in the UK before and if you were queueing at 10 pm (When our election end) you can still vote. I just think that allowing postal votes to come in after the election date increases the chances of fraud. Is it that difficult to get hold of a postal stamp?
     
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    Well, that was a pretty terrible response. Clearly deflection because you have no rational answer. Thanks for playing.
     
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    I never said I did.

    Care to answer the question?
     
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    I never said you personally did either. But the lawsuit was brought by Republicans.

    So I’ll answer your question and I expect you to answer mine.
    People don’t NEED to vote in a drive through location - but the rules allowed them to do so and 127,000 people took advantage of those rules and expected their votes to be counted.

    Now: why do Republicans want to invalidate those votes?
     
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    I totally disagree with you. Nov. 3rd is election day and I belief if votes are postmarked on this day they should be valid up to three days after Nov. 3rd. This is an unusual election year and flexibility should be used to ensure as many votes get counted. One side is going to yell foul no matter what.
     
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    How does that increase the chances of fraud if the envelopes are post marked on the 3rd of November and arrive 3 days later which is what I believe is a fair approach to this highly unusual election year. You're saying the UK has experienced a virus such as Covid-19 that hampered the election process?
     
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    Think about it pragmatically. With the number of local elections, I doubt seriously that a federal election infra could handle them. I suppose the up side is that it would be much more difficult for democrats the cheat.
     
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    No, it's just that we would never accept results after election day as it has huge potential for fraud. I assume it is rather easy to get hold of a postal stamp. I think 3 days would be a lot more acceptable than a week or weeks. If there was a system to ensure they all had to be in by election day, it would remove the doubt.
     
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    Texas allows curbside for people with health conditions. There are no real security concerns, just fake ones brought up to try to erase votes. There are election works from both sides working the curbside voting just like there is for every other method of voting.
     
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    Let's try this again, those 127k people were allowed to vote in their cars due to the pandemic. The same way you are allowed to vote in person with a mask on due to the pandemic. The difference being of course the Democrats aren't filing lawsuits to have your vote nullified.

    Get it yet? Or do you want me to draw you pictures?
     
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    what does it matter, Trump declared a national emergency, this is the middle of a pandemic, why try to deny them the right to vote?
     
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    Almost half the states in the US have provisions to recount the ballots if the vote is close in a state. Some at the behest of the losing candidate, some get triggered automatically.
    There are in fact no official results on election day. Many states also have allowances for up to when they can receive mail in votes. This has always been the case. The only difference this time around is that the volume of mail in votes is exceptional and it looks like it is going to be a very close election, hence the focus on them
    So this is not new, and election results are only final between a week and 4 weeks from now.

    Only Trump is pretending that this is unusual
     
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    Unfortunately the USPS is under a lot of strain with all the mail in ballots due to the virus. As for post marks I really don't see that as an issue.
     
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