A 'Furious' revelation Feds sold guns to drug gangs Last Updated: 5:10 AM, September 29, 2011 This just might be the smoking gun weve been waiting for to break the festering Fast and Furious gun-running scandal wide open: the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives apparently ordered one of its own agents to purchase firearms with taxpayer money, and sell them directly to a Mexican drug cartel. Let that sink in: After months of pretending that Fast and Furious was a botched surveillance operation of illegal gun-running spearheaded by the ATF and the US attorneys office in Phoenix, it turns out that the government itself was selling guns to the bad guys. Agent John Dodson was ordered to buy four Draco pistols for cash and even got a letter from his supervisor, David Voth, authorizing a federally licensed gun dealer to sell him the guns without bothering about the necessary paperwork. Please accept this letter in lieu of completing an ATF Form 4473 for the purchase of four (4) CAI, Model Draco, 7.62x39 mm pistols, by Special Agent John Dodson, read the June 1, 2010, letter. These aforementioned pistols will be used by Special Agent Dodson in furtherance of performance of his official duties. On orders, Dodson then sold the guns to known criminals, who first stashed them away and then -- deliberately unhindered by the ATF or any other agency -- whisked them off to Mexico. People were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, including at least two American agents and hundreds of Mexicans. And the taxpayers picked up the bill. So wheres the outrage? Theres none from the feds. Attorney General Eric Holder has consistently stonewalled Rep. Darrell Issa, Sen. Chuck Grassley and other congressional investigators. In a constantly evolving set of lies, Holder has denied knowing anything about Fast and Furious while at the same time withholding documents from the House and Senate committees looking into the mess while muzzling some witnesses and transferring others. Justice calls the allegations about Dodsons operation false. But Grassley says thats a lie, as he told Greta van Susteren the other day. The ATF ordered this ATF agent to purchase these guns and in turn sell them, and supposedly track them, he said. But he was a lone wolf in the operation -- they wouldnt give him any help for 24-hour surveillance. So now the wheels have come off the official explanation for Fast and Furious. Of course, that explanation never made much sense in the first place. For one thing, the ATF had no authority to track the guns once they were in Mexico; for another, nobody bothered to inform the Mexicans of this intrusion on their national sovereignty. Further, we now know that a host of federal agencies (including the ATF, the FBI and IRS, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Drug Enforcement Administration and, very probably, top officials at the Department of Homeland Security) were all in the loop at various levels, as was the White House. So calling Fast and Furious a cockamamie operation gone wrong just isnt going to cut it anymore. There are two possible explanations. The first is that the anti-gun Obama administration deliberately wanted American guns planted in Mexico in order to demonize American firearms dealers and gun owners. The operation was manufacturing evidence for the presidents false claim that were to blame for the appalling levels of Mexican drug-war violence. If this is true, then Holder & Co. have got to go -- and the trail needs to be followed no matter where it leads. For the federal government to seek to frame its own citizens is unconscionable. A second notion is that the CIA was behind the whole thing, which accounts for all the desperate wagon-circling. Under this theory, the Agency feared the los Zetas drug cartel was becoming too powerful and might even mount a coup against the Mexican government. So some 2,000 weapons costing more than $1.25 million were deliberately channeled to the rival Sinaloa cartel, which operates along the American border, to keep the Zetas in check. Of course, theres a third explanation -- that both scenarios are true, and that those in charge of Fast and Furious saw an opportunity to shoot two birds with one Romanian-made AK Draco pistol. Time for a special prosecutor, whos both fast and furious. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...velation_OhK6TBqPlEpRglHjsSbiBI#ixzz1ZOI2Uclm http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinio...velation_OhK6TBqPlEpRglHjsSbiBI#ixzz1ZKCGnptv I've wondered if this was really a way for the Feds to take sides in the drug war in Mexico for foreign policy reasons. It's possible. Why else would the Obama admin be so reckless? We need a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of this. _
I think it's a combination of both scenarios mentioned in the article. I have to wonder what business we have interfering in Mexico's internal affairs. But I keep going back to that conversation TheOne had with Mrs. Brady, last spring and what he told her about gun control "under the radar." There are a lot of 2nd amendment supporters who really believe this was all done to discredit the gun owners, gun shop owners and gun show vendors, in order for them to get stronger gun laws passed.
And now the BATFE says Cancer patients can't own weapons...if they have a card which says they can smoke pot to help their condition. George Washington's doc told him to smoke pot to help his ill condition. Today, our First President, George Washington, would be disarmed and possibly arrested by our current "government" Which happens to be owned by the same powers George Washington fought at our birth. Today, they are protecting and growing opium in Afgan, with our money and children. Killing many people too....and destroying our troops for their agenda. But that can't happen, this is America and we are free and people love us, because we are free. If something was wrong corporate special interests news with ties to military interest would tell us. Because after all, this is the USA, and people love us because we are good because TV tells us so.......and if something was wrong someone would.......
Granny says, "An' now we got all dem Hispexicans comin' up here, tryin' to get away from the drug war... ATF Fast and Furious guns turned up in El Paso September 29, 2011 Washington — They were being stored for shipment to Mexico, documents show. It's the first case of vanished weapons from the surveillance program showing up on this side of the border outside the Phoenix area.
Meet the Draco Pistol. The Obama Administration was buying these and selling them to drug cartels. No wonder there are dead bodies all over Mexico.
I've been wanting to get my hands on one of those for years. Not to sell but to own. None of my legal connections knew how to get one. Now I know that all I had to do was ask Obama to get me one!
Okay, so the feds are looking for innovative ways to increase revenue. They do have warehouses full of seized drugs. Hmmm?
Odd, normally that would make a liberal pee his panties. Now, their prince is selling them to drug lords. It's certainly a queer world under Obama's rule. _
Gee, where would anyone ever get the idea that the Obama regime could stoop to such levels in order to further some pet leftist agenda item???
Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu doubled down last night on CNN. The sheriff implicated the ATF, Eric Holder and the Obama Justice Department as accomplices to murder involving weapons used in Operation Fast and Furious. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC2C2lIwNSA"]Arizona Sheriff Explains Fast And Furious - YouTube[/ame]
Your government has armed narco terrorists. When the (*)(*)(*)(*) comes knocking on your door, do not be out gunned. (my two favorite '2nd amendment solutions' )
