Feminist Pornography

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  1. ryobi

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    1. ACTOR Ellen Page has been embraced by everyone from sex workers to web enthusiasts after calling for more feminist pornography.

    The Juno and Inception actor today participated in an Ask Me Anything Q &A session on Reddit. Acclaimed feminist pornographer Courtney Trouble asked Page whether, as a feminist, she had any thoughts on misogyny and the feminist porn movement.

    Page replied "I think we are in a very scary time right now.

    "The rhetoric from the right-wing is terrifying to me. I think feminist porn is crucial. To only have porn from the male perspective is damaging. Women are sexual creatures, as much as men and that needs to be embraced."

    This reply was met with celebration and glee from most users.

    However Dr Helen Pringle, a researcher at the University of NSW, told news.com.au she's still baffled by the idea of "feminist pornography" and said the term itself was an oxymoron.

    "I've never been able to understand what it is about feminist pornography that makes it different from conventional porn," she said.
    Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/a...ty/story-e6frfro0-1226668945500#ixzz2X8hm6J00

    “Tristan Taormino, is a sex educator, feminist pornographer, and co-editor of The Feminist Porn Book who defines Feminist pornography as, feminist pornographers who are dedicated to gender equality and social justice. Feminist pornography is porn that is generated in a fair manner, signifying that performers are paid a reasonable salary and most importantly treated with care and esteem; their approval, security, and well-being are vital, and what they bring to the production is appreciated. Feminist porn searches to expand the ideas about desire, beauty, gratification, and power through unconventional representations, aesthetics, and film making styles. The overall aim of feminist porn is to empower the performers who produce it and the people who view it”.
     
  2. ryobi

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    So I assume the male performers get paid as much as the female performers in feminist porn-surely right???

    ....because in mainstream porn female performers get paid 5 to 10 times more that their male counterparts.

    and feminist pornographers are dedicated to equality or so it says :roll:
     
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    Turns out feminists were wrong. Some women actually like sex. Even some feminists like sex!!! So much so that some feminists actually make, 'feminist pornography.' :roll:
     
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    Having never even heard of "Feminist Porn", I am trying to imagine what it might be.

    Is it lesbian Porn, or possibly Women spanking men while calling them names?
     
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    I think it might involve a, 'harness'
     
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    So much ignorance in this thread......
     
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    You realize there are feminists who believe all penis in vagina sex is rape right. They even have an acronym for it, 'PIV'-:smile:
     
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    Yes there are SOME....but sex positive feminism is the norm. The Andrea Dworkin feminism is a thing of the past for the most part. What modern feminist struggle against is the structural Misogyny of the heterosexual paradigm that is quick to label woman sluts and men heroes for the same behavior.

    As for feminist porn, it is designed to not make the female character a tool for the man's pleasure nor a degraded character. Candida Royale started doing that about 20 years ago as I recall.
     
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    Who would seek out "feminist porn"? Sheesh, some people.
    Who does things like that?
     
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    Feminists apparently?
     
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    I've never understood why some men and (some women) call some women sluts for being sexual. From a man's perspective you'd think this was a good thing? From my perspective it is, but I've never been the jealous type.

    ...and some women (and some men) like to be degraded. I know it's difficult to fathom, but it's true. I only think it's wrong when someone degrades someone who doesn't want to be degraded.

    I think it's great there are feminists who embrace porn. The more porn people watch the less unwanted pregnancies there will be and as a result there will be less abortions, not to mention less STD's. As someone who's pro-life I think porn is a good thing, but I'm not a Christian so....

    I just think it's ironic feminist's demonize men for watching porn when some of them make porn themselves. The fact that it's a good thing when feminists do it, but it's a bad thing when men do it, is just another instance of female privilege and matriarchy.
     
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    Imagine how different the world would be if Bill Clinton were to of looked at porn instead of hitting on an intern in the white house? America would've elected Al Gore. It would've never invaded Iraq. Thousand of American soldiers would not have died. Tens of thousands of Iraqi children, women, and men would not have been killed......
     
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    When it comes to lesbianism maybe.
     
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    This is basically one of the biggest lies told by feminists.

    When one calls oneself a feminist it is often because one has learned the philosophy in college. In virtually all colleges the Steinem, Dworkin, ensler, Moss brand of feminism is the norm it is pretty much all that is studied. Such extremist feminists write all the text books which moderate feminists learn from.

    Modern " moderate feminists may well struggle against the assumed and unprovable herterosexual paradigm you describe but that is merely the tip of the iceberg.

    Modernb modreate feminists oppose any and all challenges to the special rights granted to women at the expense of men. They routinely fight for more such special rights based on easily proven false myths such as the pay gap or the inflated stats on rape or the ignored numbers of falsified rape.

    Any intelligent question or examination of feminist doctrine and one is labeled as a misogynist. Any question of such inequality for men which feminists have achieved and still defend is misogynist.
     
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    I picture "feminist pornography" as looking something like some National Geographic footage of rhinos mating
     
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    I really don't know why this is controversial.

    I have seen a little bit of feminist porn and it is boring. To be fair I find most other mainstream porn boring as well but feminist porn even more so.

    Having said that Ms Page is correct make more of it. The more the better. The only thing stopping the feminists from doing so is probably lack of any costumers.

    Invest in it and produce it all they like. If it sells good and they make a profit kudos to them. If it crashes with no audience well too bad for them Thats life in the patriarchy. Unless some feminist producer of porn pulls a Gloria Steinem and marries some rich guy to bail out their bankrupt business as she did with Ms magazine.
     
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    The one fact over looked by feminists is men are labeled in a negative way just as women are. I've been called a man ho for having sex with more than one woman in a year and by more than one person.

    Suddenly I find that if I converse with a woman out of sincere desire to be nice and nothing more others instantly tell her behind my back that I am only being nice for one reason which of course is to get in her pants.

    Doesn't bother me only pussles me more than anything else.

    I am sure someone will say I am being naive if I do not recognize the IDEA that women get labeled more than men. They are simply wrong.
     
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    The women who do it are usually just ugly, overweight and dykey and can't get laid with a sober man, so it's just sour grapes - ex. them trying to turn a positive into a negative out of envy, and make their crappy lives feel more validated

    The men who do it are usually just creeps, porn addicts, and regiestered sex offenders who couldn't get more than 5 seconds of a attention from any woman (who isn't handing him a restraining order) - so again, it's for the same reason listed above.

    The ones who do that are mainly just the ugly/butch ones who're just envious that they don't look good enough to ever even get in porn, (other than maybe as a stand in for Jabba the Hutt in some "Star Wars"-themed porno).
     
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    fem porn is no different to regular porn - it just shows women having orgasms etc..and that can often be seen on any mainline porn station.
     

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