Finally a crack in the wall and we see the light

Why do Semite-Haters who genocided the native Semites of Palestine and their supporters constantly accuse their opponent of supposed Anti-Semitism?

I do not believe that Zionist are Semites, it is idiotic to accuse anybody of "Anti-Semitism", if he does not believe in the "Semitism" of Zionists.

Why do you constantly use this misnomer? You may call me Anti-Zionist, if you want, I do not mind.

You openly said that you think that collective punishment is OK, you believe that it would have been a good thing to drop atomic bomb on Munich and Berlin, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent German civilians.

I clearly said that I think that collective punishment is a crime, I am for individual punishment.

You hide behind group guilt, group punishment and group victumhood, not me.

People who think in group-terms, are usually racists.

I am an individualist, I do not care about group guilt, group punishment or group victimhood,

When I expose the Jewish racists, like Ovadia Yosef, you call me an "Anti-Semite".

If you are a honest and decent person, why do you avoid talking about Ovadia Yosef?

Do you agree that he was a racist?

Yes or no?

Can you answer a direct and simple question?

 

BTW, what has Auschwitz to do with Palestine?

 

The Holocaust shows the necessity of a Jewish nation-state.

We simply cannot trust non-Jews to protect us, when (*)(*)(*)(*) hits the fan.

 

The Nazis also murdered 5 million Gypsies and Roma. They are not perpetually belly-aching and simultaneously ethnically-cleansing other minorities 70 years later.

 

100% FALSE!!!!!!!!!

around 300,000 Roma died in the Holocaust.

you need to open a damn history book before you open your mouth again about history.

 

You cannot build an exclusive "Jewish state" on the stolen and ethnically cleansed land, this is immoral! The expelled Native Semites of Palestine must get the right to return and become equal citizens of Israel!

That is what international right is about!

Zionists are criminals, because they violate the existing law. If you violate the law, then you commit a crime and become a criminal!

As simple as that!

And Palestinians cannot trust the Zionist-controlled self-proclaimed "world government" to protect and to restore the justice, too.

Disraeli, who believed in the superiority of the "Jewish race", talked about "reconquering" Palestine as early as in 1877 (The Jewish Question is the Oriental Quest).

His work "Coningsby" was all about Jews secretly controlling the governments, and he believed that Jews will eventually control the entire world.

He "predicted" in 1877 that Brits will have to conquer Palestine for the Jews within 50 years, and that really happened during WWI, after Zionists promised to the Brits that they will involve USA in WWI (The "Balfour declaration" was a promise of Brits to Rotschild for the efforts of Zionists to involve USA in WWI).

As we see, Zionists were just implementing their plan that existed since 1877.

The Zionist Moses Hess (he was the teacher of Marx ho preached "class struggle" to non-Jews) talked about "Race Struggle" as early as in 1862 (Rome and Jerusalem).

He believed in the superiority of the "Jewish Race", and he believed that the "German Race" is an obstacle that will be removed. Can you imagine, he was a German citizen, but he talked about fighting the interests of Germans?

The early Zionists, like Jabotinsky, openly talked about the land theft in Palestine, he talked about military conquest against the will of the native Semitic population and about ethnic cleansing, and that was in in 1923 (Iron Wall).

Zionists rejected the "Madagascar Plan" and the already existing "Jewish Home" in Birobidzhan, though there was almost no native population in these regions and there was no need of ethnic cleansing and land theft, there was enough land and water for all Jews in the world!

There was a NS memorandum, dated 15. August 1940, which recommended the resettlement of Jews from Europe to Madagascar.

But Zionism was dominated by religious nutters who believed that Ashkenazim are the biological descendants of the Hebrews and that the tribal god of the Hebrews (Yahweh) had "promised" Palestine to the white Ashkenazim (who are mixed descendants of judaized Khazars and Slavs), and that the native Semites who had been living in Palestine since the begin of history are just "squatters" who must be expelled to free the land for the "chosen" white migrants from Europe.

It was clear from the very beginning that in Paleztine there is no place and no water for all Jews of the world, even if you expel all native Semites from this region, but religious nutters favoured Palestine as the only possible option for a Jewish state.

Hitler was seen by some Zionists as a "useful idiot" who will help the Zionists to move the young and healthy European Jews and their money from Europe to Palestine.

According to the Haavara Agreement, about 60 thousand Jews were moved from Germany to Palestine, and they managed to transfer about 140 Million Reichsmark from Germany to Palestine.

The cooperation of Zionists and National-Socialists was even commemorated with a special coin with a Swastika and a Star of David.

Some Zionists, like the Lehi Group, even proposed to fight on the side of the Third Reich against the Brits, if the NS abandoned the Madagascar Plan and helped to expel the Brits and Palestinians from Palestine and moved the healthy European Jews and their money from Europe to Palestine.

And what about the old Jews?

Well, Chaim Weizmann told there is only money for young and healthy Jews, and that the old Jews are just "dust on the wheels of history" . You can read about it in the work by Ben Hecht "Perfidy".

Yitzhak Gruenbaum was reported to say that one cow in Palestine is more important [to the cause of Zionism] that all Jews who still live in Europe.

The Zionist Emil Ludwig wrote (according to Lenni Brenner) the following:

No comments are needed, and I now that you will not attack my message, you will, as usual, attack the messenger and call him Anti-Semite/Nazi/Racist/Hater/Cannibal etc.



But the readers of this forum can do their own research, find the sources and make their own conclusion.

 

What "messenger" ????

That post is an insane hallucination, all you did was invent a (sick) story to fit world events and your Jew hatred, amuzing to some pathetic to others, not worth a real comment.

I said it before and ill say it again, looking at our enemies we can be confident in our path

 

What is invented?
Can you be more specific?

Just start with one point and I will furnish you all proves that are needed, if you are unable to use Google.



So I am waiting for your first question, just go on and ask a precise question, instead of repeating your mantra about the "wicked Anti-Semites".

 

"The world hates us but I have a brain-wave; let's whine and complain that we're always the victims of anything we can thnk of, steal land and property that doesn't belong to us, and that way the world will begin to love Israel again". Genius!

 

Well that's obviously not true since we dont give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) about what you like..., and for your general education, land can't be stolen - conqured is the word and whining about it wont get it back for you.

 

And as you are well aware International Law clearly states that the acquisition of land by war is illegal. One day Israel will learn that is cannot have it's own way without repercussions. Those repercussions will be legal ones just as soon as Palestine achieves full statehood recognition. We'll see how smug you are then.
http://unispal.un.org/unispal.nsf/0/7D35E1F729DF491C85256EE700686136

 

No, I gave you a chance for an honest dicussion before and you bailed, you ignored my reply only to spring your lies on gene studies in another post, Im not going to spend any more time on your lies, this is your "reality" and you are welcome to stay in it. what poor uneducated souls you manage to pull down with you - had it coming IMO.

 

You couldn't be more mistaken.

 

As long as the Palestinians are having their way we will have ours, when the time comes for an honest discussion with them they will get an Israeli retreat but honest means both sides will get at least some of what they wanted, since your idea for peace is just an Israeli retreat you need to remember it, Israel will not surrender to an enemy but may make peace with a partner.

 

Netanyahu is in bed with out-and-out fascists in the Knesset yet the Palestinians still came to the peace table. Zionist hypocrisy is palpable.

 

Retreat from land which is not Israel's to own and to which they have no rights whatsoever? I have no issue with that.

 

Someone that holds hands with Hamas can't talk about hypocrisy in peace talks.....

 

Accept the Jewish state and bury the fued forever if you want any piece of your land back, we are fine with the rights we have thank you.

 

State of Israel? Ok. A Jewish state with 25% non-Jews and growing? No way.
http://www.israelnsp.org/what-they-say/status-quo-is-dangerous/israels-demographic-challen.html

 

meanwhile you support the Russian Imperialist invasion of Crimea, and Russian Imperialist future invasion of eastern Ukraine.

you speak with a forked tongue.

 

Seems different rules of international law apply for them, whenever Jews are involved.

 

The United Nations approved a Jewish state with an even smaller Jewish majority.

so what's your problem?

 

It isn't my problem but might be Israel's. If, and it's a very real possibility, non-Jews become a majority then how can it possibly be called a Jewish state?

 

no, UN Resolution 181 approved dividing Palestine into a Jewish State and an Arab State.

 

And from the resolution itself

ensure that an area situated in the territory of the Jewish State…..
Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in Part III of this Plan, shall come into existence….
The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State…
establishment of the independence of the Arab and Jewish States…..
the establishment of the frontiers of the Arab and Jewish States….
public organizations of the Arab and Jewish States,….
Government of both the Arab and Jewish States…..
the Jews of the Jewish State….
Arabs residing in the area of the proposed Jewish State

His views are a product of his ideology and the real world really has no effect upon them.