FLAT EARTH RANT #4

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  1. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    Really.....prove gravity. Do a demonstration and post it here. Oh......dropping something does not prove gravity. It proves density. We have a medium no matter where we are on earth. Either water or air. They both consist of water, and oxygen can be accumulated with water (gills). If you take a beach ball full of air and hold it under water, it try's to rise. The deeper you can take it, the force becomes stronger to rise. Same thing outside of water, if it's more dense it falls, if it's less dense it rises (helium, hot air). Are you saying hot air overcomes the alleged force of gravity, which holds all the water and you to the alleged planet? Gravity is not needed, it is only needed for a heliocentric model, which has no relation to reality.
     
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    Prove electro magnetism, prove buoyancy, prove pressure.

    Dropping something does not prove anything either density or gravity.

    the heliocentric fact is not a model it is observed reality thus proving you wrong.
     
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    No, it does not prove anything. You are still thinking of the sun in a way that the heliocentric model says. The sun is extremely smaller and closer, thus works in a way you have not even opened your mind to. It's light and heat is limited to a localized area of it's position. It also reflects light and heat off the firmament. The person in this video should of found a more smoother hemisphere of glass. However his presentation does agree with what we see in reality. There are also models of the flat earth being put together now, where the sun is a reflection off a reflective surface. Sort of like taking a flashlight, shining it on a snow-globe (not saying it's a snow globe), now the reflection of light off the glass is not where the source of the light is, yet it is very bright and produces heat. This is another model of flat earth, none are complete yet, but people are clearly thinking outside the box. Because the earth is flat. And it will be known soon.

    When it comes to navigation, just think of a dinner plate, head east or west, north being center and south any direction from center coinciding with east and west, and you end up in the spot you started. Note: nobody has ever circumnavigated north to south over the poles. There are massive areas in "Antarctica" that are admittedly still undiscovered, right there at the alleged south pole.

    The videos and images of all celestial objects are indeed CGI.
    Hang your green screens up and put your wires on....
    This is ground control to Major Tom.....

    Yes these are computer graphic images (CGI) pretty good graphics aren't they, yet it's not real.
     
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    Observed reality....C'MON MAN the deepest you have ever been to space is your imagination, which was provided for you.
     
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    Yes observed reality.

    It was proven to be observed reality long before men ever went into space.

    the images from space are 100 % authentic and NOT CGI if you claim they are show some evidence.

    Do not lie as you have in the past show some evidence. Stop lying which your false god states is a sin.

    A small sun would still be visible world wide if the earth was flat. Light sources can be seen from much farther away than they can illuminate something.

    You have been proven wrong and you know it stop lying and being childish ad face facts
     
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    There are many models being worked on now. The heliocentric has had close to a millennium. All changing as time goes. The distance to the sun has been changed numerous times. But then again, you probably didn't even know that.
     
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    That is because the distance to the sun is not a constant. The orbit of the earth is not a perfect circle. In addition our methods of measurement improves.

    No challenge to the fact that the earth is round and orbits the sun which is an absolute fact
     
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    Hey, stick to your ball earth then. Your rambling is all your doing. For the earths movement has never been proven, every test has results of a motionless earth.
     
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    Wrong it has been proven and you can name no such test of a motionless earth.

    you are lying and merely dreamed up the existence of such tests
     
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    Well give us 1. We have all the dimensions of the oval earth. The size of the sun, the distance from the sun to earth. The distance from the moon to the earth.
    Why hasn't your made up fantasy land come up with numbers yet? To many people to get to agree on how to make those fake numbers without someone squealing it is a lie?
    Please give us all these different distances to the sun. Prove you are not trolling the forum. OH, you can't. LOL.

    Ever see the big dipper constellation? Why does it change positions through out the year? Why does it appear upright at times, and upside down at other times?
     
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    WOW....you truly have no idea what your talking about.

    NOTABLE HELIOCENTRIST EXPERIMENTS THAT *FAILED* TO DETECT ANY MOVEMENT OF THE EARTH AROUND THE SUN
    For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
    who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Romans 1:18There was a group of early "scientists" that decided that their heliocentric pronouncements would be proved and accepted. They conducted various experiments to prove that the earth moves around the sun. Unsurprisingly, these experiments FAILED--and they knew it--but they covered this information up. In their corrupt minds, heliocentrism had to disprove the Bible, no matter what the cost--so instead of being scientific and accepting that the earth does not move, they decided to hold the truth in unrighteousness. They suppressed the truth like any liar would. False science could not and can not prove the motion of the earth because it does not move. It is not a planet ("wanderer"). Those early false scientists are the authors of the textbooks that today's "scientists" and authors consult. The students who have learned from them are worse off than they are (Matthew 23:15) because these students actually believe the earth moves whereas the original false scientists knew that they were wrong.[The following is excerpted from The Basic Scientific Arguments for Geocentricity by Malcolm Bowden.]
    SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS. Most scientists know about the Michelson-Morely experiment - that failed to detect any movement of the earth round the sun. This had to be overcome so the Fitzgerald-Lorentz shortening of the apparatus was proposed, and eventually the paradoxical Relativity Theory was invented by Einstein to overcome this problem. However, there are three other experiments that have been deliberately ignored by universities because they support geocentricity -
    (a) The Michelson-Gale experiment (Reference - Astrophysical Journal 1925 v 61 pp 140-5 - I forgot to put this reference in my book!) This detected the aether passing the surface of the earth with an accuracy of 2% of the speed of the daily rotation of the earth! Thus, the Michelson-Morely experiment detected no movement of the earth around the sun, yet the Michelson-Gale experiment measured the earth's rotation (or the aether's rotation around the earth!) to within 2%! This surely speaks volumes for geocentricity.
    (b) "Airey's failure" (Reference - Proc. Roy. Soc. London v 20 p 35). Telescopes have to be very slightly tilted to get the starlight going down the axis of the tube because of the earth's "speed around the sun". Airey filled a telescope with water that greatly slowed down the speed of the light inside the telescope and found that he did not have to change the angle of the telescope. This showed that the starlight was already coming in at the correct angle so that no change was needed. This demonstrated that it was the stars moving relative to a stationary earth and not the fast orbiting earth moving relative to the comparatively stationary stars. If it was the telescope moving he would have had to change the angle. [emphasis BiblicalScholarship.net]
    (c) The Sagnac experiment (Reference - Comptes Rendus 1913 v157 p 708-710 and 1410-3) Sagnac rotated a table complete with light and mirrors with the light being passed in opposite directions around the table between the mirrors. He detected the movement of the table by the movement of the interference fringes on the target where they were recombined. This proved that there IS an aether that the light has to pass through and this completely destroys Einstein's theory of Relativity that says there is no aether. It is for this reason that this experiment is completely ignored by scientists. More recently Kantor has found the same result with similar apparatus.
    All these experiments are never taught at universities, so consequently, scientists, including most Christian creationists, are ignorant of this evidence for geocentricity.

    http://www.biblicalscholarship.net/failed.htm
     
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    Job 38:18 KJB-
    18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.

    31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

    32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?

    33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?

    1 Chronicles 16:30
    He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved.


    The heliocentric model says all the earth does is move. Literally that's all it does is move, it never stops.

    Psalm 96:10
    Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.


    12Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.

    13And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

    14And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

     
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    What is that crap? What does that have to do with my questions? Are you trolling?
     
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    No matter what position the big dipper is in, it repeatedly cycles through them, as if it's moving while attached to a structure that is moving.
     
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    Neil deGrasse Tyson said that in the earths early years as it was forming, it was still spinning, and like pizza dough as you spin it.....it flattens out. And this is the reason for the "oblate spheroid". But not only that, earth is a "little chubbier" at the bottom (because space has a top and bottom), than at the top, sort of like a pear, "the earth is pear shaped".

    My question is, how many times are they going to change the shape of the earth, and still give us perfect sphere images. My other question is, if earth in the beginning was molten liquid lava, why did it not spin into a "flat pizza", and then cool?





    You guys believe this nonsense. Unbelievable!
     
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    Assuming you are "for real"---and actually believe the Earth is flat---then how is this faith in figurative speech in the Bible mentioning the 4 corners and the circle of earth going to win souls for Jesus?

    http://www.popsci.com/10-ways-you-can-prove-earth-is-round#page-5

    If the Earth is really flat, then all your fellow Flat-Earthers need to make a simple flight in any straight direction, and when you come to the end of the Earth, take videos of it. Videos of the other side of the earth would also be nice, if you don't fall off going around the edge.
     
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    I ask you to provide one example of an experiment which shows a motionless earth and you lie about it.

    Why do you keep doing what you know is a sin?

    The Michelson- Morely experiment considered the detection of a substance called aether which scientists at the time believed to exist. It did not fail to detect the motion of earth because it did not even TRY to detect the motion of earth.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Morley_experiment
    You decietfully and dishonestly lied about what the experiment did and what it was about.


    The Michelson-Gale -Pearson experiment also had nothing to do with detecting the motion of earth although you lie to say they did not detect it as they measured the angular velocity of earth and only an object in potion has velocity.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelson–Gale–Pearson_experiment
    So you also lied deceitfully about that experiment.

    Airy's failure also had nothing to do with detecting the motion of earth and does not support your conclusions. You lied about this one as well.
    https://gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Research Papers-Mechanics / Electrodynamics/Download/2029

    Finally the Sagnac experiment also attempted to detect aether which was discarded by relativity. It failed to challenge relativity ( much less destroy it ) and also did not even try to detect the motion of earth.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagnac_effect
    In every case you have deliberately misrepresented what these experiments did, and what they were about.

    You stated baldfaced lies.

    Now one more time as your claims have been massively and irrefutably destroyed.

    Name one experiment which proved the earth is motionless
     
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    No one changed or changes the shape of the earth they simply learn more detail about it
     
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    No, they simply make up more non-sense for gullible people such as yourself. It enables them power over you, for you feel you must go to them for knowledge. When in reality, your God given senses tells you earth is motionless. Without some evil person whispering in your ear that you live on a ball, you would think earth was flat and motionless. You have been deceived into distrusting your own senses. It also shows them the amount of power they have over you. For your easily influenced.
     
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    Wrong unlike you they provide evidence for their discoveries and conclusions.

    I have no god because the concept is a delusion proving you are the one influenced by old texts.
     
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    You still have provided zero evidence of gravity, regardless what you say.
     
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    Science has.

    You simply ignore it in willful fashion. You also failed to prove electro magnetism buoyancy and pressure. Notice I do not doubt they exist but you cannot prove they do. You only cite what you think ( incorrectly ) supports your completely stupid assertions. Of course the RESt of science which absolutely proves you wrong you ignore.And of course you outright lied in cowardly fashion about various experiments. You have failed to provide any reference to any experiment proving a motionless earth .

    BTW stop preaching to people about god you are a terrible sinner who openly and willfully craps on the deity you believe in and his word
     
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    Science has.... is "your" answer. Are you sure your not just playing follow the leader?

    I have already said how buoyancy, density, pressure and electromagnetism work. You must be deaf, but then again your reading, so you must be blind.

    Electromagnetism is kind of like a magnet powered by electricity. Or electricity and magnetism as different manifestations of the "same" phenomenon.
     
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    No.

    Science has proven it which you willfully ignore.

    You have not proven that they exist and how you say they work applies to gravity.

    You have not supported any of your stupid assertions and have only lied like any little satanic person
     
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    Can you tell me where I lied please?
     

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