Florida mom filing suit after child transitioned at school without her consent: 'Happening all over'

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  1. Joe knows

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    https://www.foxnews.com/media/florida-mom-january-littlejohn-lawsuit-transgender-school



    So it seems that it is trendy for these kids to transition, something schools are backing up which their actions of life altering transition procedures. I can’t express how wrong this is. Literally groups of kids transitioning because of what? Peer pressure I’m sure. Schools should not be in the business of child abuse. Feeding transitional drugs to kids who are struggling to learn who they are is horrid. If they aren’t old enough to know what career choice they will make how in gods name can they understand the life changing drugs they are taking? What in the heck is wrong with our schools?
     
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    Would you mind explaining this for me? I read the article but I don't get **how** the child involved was "transitioned".

    Admittedly, I don't know much about it but I assume it can't be an "overnight" process. I agree they shouldn't be having those conversations with minor children without a parent's/guardian's consent, but, the title suggests that something *more* happened. Do you know what that "more" is?
     
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    Sounds like they basically filled out paperwork and asked the student about some "preferences". There was no mention of any hormone treatment or surgery.
    I think the school people were determining what the student wanted and how they wanted to be viewed. It's part of the attempt for teachers and school officials to identify students' gender identification in an effort to make them feel ok about who they are and how they want to identify.
    One has to understand all sides of the story to really get what and why they are doing it. One of the issues is that many of these kids don't feel like they can discuss this with their parents. Some parents would throw a fit and belittle the kid. They don't know how to handle it.
    This parent, to me, falls into that category. Instead of being concerned with her child's mental health, she is going to sue the school.
    It won't do anything but embarrass the poor kid. I sort of get why the parents get upset, but they fail to put the child first...
     
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    The only part of this story that needs to be understood is that schools are convincing entire groups of kids to do things that no school has the right to do.

    The people at the school involved in this deserve nice long prison sentences.
     
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    From what I read its basically a letter which they read to the student so he/she knows what he/she can and cannot do regarding bathrooms, clothing etc. The other options would be to ignore it, or ban it (the 'transition').

    With all the new laws, lot of parents are going to try their luck in the courts and hope they score some taxpayer money. As for teachers, this only makes it worse for them as the "news" sources work full time trying to paint them as the enemy.
     
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    When did this become the role of the school system?

    If the child has a psychological issue, then it's up to the parents to obtain counseling/treatment.
     
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    How will they handle children who think themselves to be a chilean sea bass? Will they let them spend each day in the swimming pool?

    If you look to normalize one mental illness, then you need to for all

    Penis=male
    Vagina = female
     
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    I can assure you that no school official is working to convince anyone of any gender assignment issues. That's creating extra work, and that ain't happening.
    They are responding to two things: State and Federal requirements, and the students asking for guidance/assistance.
    For example, let's say you are a school official, and a student comes up to you and asks for your opinion or help. Say they are confused with gender identity issues.
    If you tell them "Sorry, my job is to teach "subject A" only, you must ask your parents about that" and they say they can't talk to their parents about it, and you still refuse to assist, and they get depressed and commit suicide or commit some type of violent act, then that school official could get in trouble.
    I think one thing that most parents don't get is how much teachers and school officials are put in this situation. The students ask a lot of questions, maybe they don't feel they can talk to their parents, or don't have any, or just want their opinion on something. It happens A LOT!
    It's not necessarily the parents fault, although many don't provide an environment where the student feels comfortable, but many young people look to the teachers and school officials for mentoring.
    And there are a lot of laws regarding the actions of the school people involving these things. Many times, just putting the student off is not an option.
    Depending on what the subject is, they may even be required by law to do something.
    Hard to judge this case, but sounds like a Karen mom to me. Really, we need to know more to make a real determination.
     
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    That would be ideal, but what happens when the parents don't care? Then the kid is **** out of luck,
     
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    It's painfully obvious that you have no experience or training in this.
    Everyone has a right to have an opinion.
    We should also learn that we don't HAVE to have an opinion on something, and, when woefully uninformed, maybe we should resist the temptation to have an opinion until we have more knowledge.
    You should stay away from the mental health issues......
     
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    So . . . was the kid actually given drugs without the parent's consent and without medical advisement? That's what you seem to be claiming, but that's not what the part you quoted actually said.
     
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    Thanks for expounding on this for me, balancingact.

    The issue I have with this is the same one I've always had. Opponents of any kind of efforts of inclusion are demonizing it. There is nothing wrong with teaching tolerance and to deny that is, in itself, intolerance.

    Adolescence is a hard time for everyone. it's a time when young people are most vulnerable and less discerning. It's not fair to vilify teachers and schools for wanting to combat bullying but that can only happen when, society, at large, can understand that nothing good can come from denying these conversations.

    Admittedly, I have the credentials to homeschool my children if I wanted/needed to so I am not specifically trapped in any public school drama. I'm acknowledge that most parents don't have that option and I vehemently defend their right to speak out against whatever they deem best for their child(ren).

    But, at the end of the day, educating oneself has never killed anyone. Willful ignorance has.
     
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    No they were just psychologically groomed and the information that this step ostensibly of psych treatment (if you don't want to admit that its grooming) of their child was 1) started without their consultation and consent and 2) not disclosed to them officially at all.
     
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    That's where I got stuck. The linked article just said the kid was asked some questions.

    Sadly, I think the sensationalism of the article title is enough to get all <we hate everybody not like us> crowd to champion her cause. As @balancing act stated, all that does is embarrass the kid (and creates further isolation). As a person that has endured more than a fair share of tragedy, I can attest to the fact that some of them are absolutely avoidable. This is one of those times.
     
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    Nothing described here so far is "psych treatment." And, no, it isn't "grooming" to acknowledge that trans people exist.
     
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    I think reading some of the comments on this and other related subjects illustrates why there are students asking questions of the school people rather than discussing it with their parents.
     
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    The schools can't go by biology, unless you deem it appropriate to staff pecker checkers now. Which is the sort of thing I thought you were against.
     
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    Its election year, and FOX is "all-in" with culture wars and demonizing the schools is central to that angle, which explains the use of the word "systematic" and "medical intervention", even though there is no evidence of either.
     
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    If I tell you that I believe I am a horse and I genuinely believe that and I want you to believe it too what would you tell me?
     
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    baseless allegations.....
    At best they got evidence of 6 pages containing questions what bathrooms the child would like to use. What the heck if wrong with people to invent crap they can't prove. Specifically, the conservative right wing. Go back to counting votes again. Please.
     
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    Perhaps there needs to be a working definition of the word "transitioned".

    I saw no evidence of transition in the article. How is a teacher supposed to transition a student in the first place? They can't do surgeries or prescribe meds.
     
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    Thanks to you all. I thought I missed something somewhere. I think it's very inappropriate for people to keep throwing these words around haphazardly. It's like "The Boy the Cried 'Wolf'"...eventually the alarms will be ignored. Same immature and very dangerous rhetoric using "grooming". Real targets and victims are going to keep getting hurt and their plights will be ignored while people are looking for demons in classrooms. It's incredibly irresponsible and reckless.
     
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    Nope! Id call you silver!
     
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    What are they 'convincing' them to do?
     

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