Florida Teen Trans-care Ban Off The Table

You tried, but could not. That's for sure.

 

10% is not vanishingly small.

And the Europeans who invented the protocols are now abandoning them

 

No, I did not try, I told you to look it up yourself since its for you to prove your own claims. Sorry if you are having a hard time following the conversation.

 

Their argument/excuse is that it is rare. Of course, they are trying to make it common. This is one issue worth fighting for.

 

I do deny it, especially as you've provided no evidence. You're merely regurgitating the fear-based hatred and misunderstanding of the far right. Children are not being told they have something wrong with them, nor does any move towards transgenderism, like medications to hold off puberty, happen without parental involvement or, in the absence of parents, at least some form of guidance/guardianship.

 

Links, please.

 

Good. Unfortunately it is still legal in most states.

 

10% kids are transgender?

 

Yup.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out...ntify-gender-diverse-pittsburgh-study-rcna993

 

Except if they're on blockers the whole time they don't generate enough tissue for the actual chop it off surgery to have the amount of tissue required to "work".
So if you're saying they DESPERATELY NEED to get the chop as adults, and not being able to do that or trouble doing that is LITERALLY KILLING THEM, then you need to LITERALLY STOP KILLING THEM with the blockers which prevent them getting the chop in many cases or make it to where even more radical (more radical, not more, radical. the radicalness has increased) surgeries like turning a bit of the COLON into a 'vagina'.

 

They literally cause permanent changes. FFS, you're an 'ally' who doesn't even understand what occurs.

If you go on blockers, your dick doesn't grow large enough to cut open and turn inside out. Your dick not growing to its normal size? That's a permanent side effect.

Numerous other side effects exist. An adult wants to get the chop? Let them. A child does? Not til you're older.

 

Yes, it isn't equal.

If you demand that we DENY HEALTHCARE on the basis who someone is, you need one HELL of a lot of evidence that there is justification for government doing that.

 

OK, but this STILL demonstrates the hate being propagated in that state.

The very idea that they would single out Trans individuals with a ban on their healthcare is just plain STARTLING.

How could a modern US citizen consider that a legitimate direction?

 

Big pharma is also staunchly pro-democrat. As a matter of fact, the Democrats have moved beyond the unions and are now cornering the market on cronyism and shadow money financing, ever noticed how Democrats are now silent on Citizens United? Democrats have now become proponents of shadow money and influence in politics. Just another way the Liberals have lost their way.

 

I think that's the general idea, that they don't develop. It gives them a better choice later. From what I can gather, most patients don't transition in the end. Of those that do, the idea behind blockers is that their transition will be more effective if they don't go through puberty. They will more closely resemble their desired, target sex.

None of that made any sense to me sorry.

 

From your link: "The number of young people who are gender-diverse — including transgender, nonbinary and genderqueer — may be significantly higher than previously thought, according to a new study."

Are the nonbinary and genderqueer actually seeking gender reassignment? If not, we're not really talking 10% as it relates to this thread are we?

 

Well, I'm totally with you on that one but, as in so many other examples in the past, it usually starts with social-conservatives trying to ban everything followed by years of court cases, expanded public awareness and a whole ton of money in legal fees before it ever reaches a resolve.

I spent ten years following the same-sex marriage merry-go-round. This really isn't that much different from a procedural perspective.

 

Those poor Republicans just can't seem to raise money from the unbelievably wealthy. Or, not.

And yes, unions are losing out as the SC rules against working America over and over again. And, why would those justices gaining stupendous and unreported personal benefits directly from the super wealthy not help ensure that?

Who is it you think the SC works for? Wage earners?

 

Just read up about as opposed to regurgitating Breitbart talking points. The meds have been used for decades.

Eehhhh.....what?

 

I have read up on it dude. You don't seem to have.

You weren't aware of this issue? You don't understand what's actually being done to 'create a vagina'?

 

And you're not getting it. They are not ABLE to get the chop properly later and they have innumerable issues with it, some of them that have actually killed people. (They tried turning a bit of colon into a vagina. Surprise, it got infected and the person died horribly over several weeks). Those that decide "wow I don't want this anymore" in most cases have permanent issues from the blockers retarding their physical growth for so long. Puberty occurs when it does for a reason, altering that process presents a profligate level of risk.

Its very simple: The argument you espouse is If they cannot get the chop they're likely to kill themselves. Therefore preventing the chop is a Bad Thing. The blockers? Yeah, they prevent the chop. So they're a Bad Thing.

That simplistic enough for you to grasp now?

 

Whatever makes you happy. Have a nice day

 

So you no longer wish to discuss how it works now that you have to examine the actual physical surgical reality?

Sad.

 

[QUOTE="kazenatsu, post: 1074255733, member: 74540"]Unfortunately there is simply no way to just delay puberty and make it all happen as normal later.
Growth and certain gender-specific developments need to happen during that time or they will never be able to fully happen.

After puberty, there are only limited effects that hormones can have, and it becomes mostly too late for certain types of gender-specific development. Although things like breasts can be grown and hormones change the complexion of the skin, or females can develop male-patterned hair. Hormones can only change some things at that point.[/QUOTE]
What studies on puberty blockers did you get that from?

 

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