For all of the American military haters...

heres a non-American war hero;

LONDON (AFP) – A Nepalese soldier in the British army has been given a top bravery award by Queen Elizabeth II for his heroics in Afghanistan, where he single-handedly saw off more than 30 Taliban fighters.

Corporal Dipprasad Pun, 31, said he thought he was going to die and so had nothing to lose in taking on the attackers who overran his checkpoint.

He was awarded the Conspicuous Gallantry Cross (CGC), which is given in recognition of acts of conspicuous gallantry during active operations against the enemy.

Pun fired more than 400 rounds, launched 17 grenades and detonated a mine to repel the Taliban assault on his checkpoint near Babaji in Helmand Province, southern Afghanistan, last September.

Surrounded, the enemy opened fired from all sides and for 15 minutes Pun remained under continuous attack, including from rocket-propelled grenades and AK47 guns.

read more http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110602/wl_uk_afp/britainmilitaryafghanistannepalaward

 

Two questions - who or what is an American military hater. I am not familiar with this category of person.

What has the conspicuous gallantry in the face of the enemy of a British soldier, to do with the American military?

 

one who bashes the american military at any given chance, there are plenty in this forum, the majority of them are liberals. while they will not support the US military, they have no problems praising another countries, thats why i posted this

nothing

 

Oh, that's easy.
There is a group of humans who we call "American military patriots".
To be an American military patriot, one must fulfill all of this:
- Be US Citizen
- Love nuclear bombs
- Be ignorant
- Think that Europeans eat little children

Everyone else in the world is an American military hater.

 

That's just plain ignorant. I'm a patriot yet I deplore war and nuclear weapons. I have a graduate degree from Marquette University and I like Europeans.

 

The Gurkha is famous for his loyalty to the crown and his fighting prowess.

 

So you are an American patriot but not an "American military patriot".

 

No, I support our military personnel and veterans.

 

I also inadvertently support the military, by having a major portion of my paycheck taken by the U.S. gov't to be spent on undeclared wars. Somehow, as a taxpayer who doesn't have much of a say in how my tax dollars are spent demoralizes me from working hard for this country.

 

You might want to look at where your paycheck actually goes then.

FICA supported social programs: Around $1.4 trillion
DoD: Around $670 billion.

And the "major portion"? You are at an income bracket where the Government takes over 50% of your pay?

 

Hmmm, let me see.

1: Yes
2: No
3: No
4: No

Which is funny, because I am in the military right now. And at my first duty station I had to guard nukes.

And what is my wife? She would say no to all 4 of those questions.

 

Who pays over 50% of pay? I'm sure those people know where the loopholes are.

 

what's with all the hating on nukes?

 

I thought that you did. After all, you said "a major portion of my paycheck taken by the U.S. gov't". And a "Major Portion" seems to imply that over half of your pay is taken by the Government.

 

Feel free to move elsewhere. You won't be missed.

 

They all should go.

 

Well said. There is absolutely no need for nukes.

 

I completely agree. The sad fact is that the genie is out of the bottle and the world is forever under the shadow of nuclear war.

 

It'll take time, but it's possible.

 

This is one of the hardest contradictions in the world at the moment.

Nobody likes nukes, unless they do not have them. Then they want them, but they really have no idea why.

I hate nukes, hate them with a passion. But I also admit that they are needed, if nothing else to ensure that MAD does not fall apart. However, I would love to see a drastic reduction of their numbers worldwide.

Like to maybe 1-5% of current stockpiles. Keep enough to deter any thought in another country in useing them as an offensive weapon, and leave it at that.

The problem with total elimination is the same as total disarmament. It will never happen, because somebody somewhere will cheat. And then when all those weapons have been taken away, the cheats will be the only ones left with the weapons and they will feel free to use them to get what they want knowing that nobody can stop them.

 

Are you claiming that Europeans don't each little children?

I'll have to see some proof of that.

 

I have a hard time believing that anyone who shows on paper that they pay 50%tax actually do pay that amount on everything they make. Therefore, the normal people who make modest income and pay 20-30% still shoulder a significant if not the greater tax burden.

When you have a gov't that is so in debt that it threatens to stop functioning, while Corporations cont. to rake in profits, theres got to be something wrong.

 

I work side-by-side with people who earn exactly the same amount of money that I do. Many of them are severely in debt and barely live paycheck to paycheck. I have almost no debt, plenty of money in the bank, and never can seem to spend one paycheck before I've been paid again one or two times. The difference is financial management and decisions.

The reasons many corporations are doing so well, while government is doing so poorly is corporate management is rewarded or punished based on the success of a company, so they have a vested interest in ensuring the company is successful.

Politicians and government managers have no vested interest in its success, so they have no reason to ensure things are run properly. They have a vested interest in garnering enough votes to stay another year to help increase their benefit package. This doesn't require sound financial management, in fact this is often easier to do using poor management practices.

 

Thank you, I can't say it any better then that.

And I love the remark about "Corporations raking in profit". After all, is that now what they are paid to do? Make profit, which is then paid out to their shareholders. Which also often adds money to peoples pension plans and stock portfolios and everything else that makes our economy move.

Most people have pension plans tied to the stock or bond markets. They put money in with the hope that when they retire, they will get more then they put into it. I never understood the problem Socialists have with profit. They treat it like it is evil. But I have yet to meet a Socialist that does not save any money, has no pension plan, owns no stocks or bonds, and their entire retirement plan is to live off of what Social Security gives them.

And if you think oil companies make to much profit, there is a simple solution. Buy stock. The beauty of our free market capitolist economy is that everybody can own a piece of Chevron, Shell, Exxon, GM, Dupont, and every other corporation out there. Just spend some of your money and buy stock. Then you also will profit when the oil companies do. And when their profits go up, so do yours.

Heck, get enough people who think like you that profits are evil, take over the corporation. Get together a huge block of stock, and take over the board. Take over the corporation, and force them to stop taking all profits. Do that with every publicly owned corporation out there.

Then see how long they last.

 

Perhaps I should rephrase, I dont' mind organizations working to make a profit. I do have a problem when you have corporate executives who get bonuses or golden parachutes even as they run their companies to the ground.