Former MSNBC host calls on Justice Sotomayor to step down from SCOTUS

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  1. 19Crib

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    I gotta say it: The quality of our population is crashing.
    People today want what they want and if something is in their way they want to fight. They probably would roll the Constitution up in a big joint and smoke it and complain that it tasted stale.
    Blame it on schools, blame it on mobile phones, blame it on the internet, blame it on TV and TicTok, but for Christ sakes don't do anything about it.
    I don't expect the border hopper to know how our society works, but after K-10 and being told a thousand times, "Abortion is a state issue because it is not in the Constitution." And they still act as if they have to power to shout it into universal law!
    There is no solution other than a constitutional amendment ratified by the states, blah, blah, and no one out there with signs from Soro's Mobile Print Shop is sentient enough to suggest a Constitutional change. Maybe I missed it, but that alone should be a clue that the outrage is purely Astroturf financed by one billionaire or another who wants to remodel the USA as if it were his own personal garden and the people currently living in America are pests.
    Big money sees what I see. A cratering population that doesn't not have what it takes to save the country they live in, because they are flat out stupid.
     
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    The interesting thing is the USSC has absolutely no enforcement mechanism. Previously they enjoyed very high public support which was in itself a pretty effective mechanism to have compliance.

    Since the Republicans have completely destroyed it through their blatant power grabs and targeting of past decisions they don’t like, public support has plummeted.
     
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    This court is following the Constitution. The SCOTUS has been activist for generations. Now that the court is following the Constitution it appears to be crazy. This is how its supposed to work. Same-sex marriage is next.
     
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    The court is overruling prior conservative courts based on inconsistent readings depending on how they want to rule.

    They are doing so as Republicans have staged cases to be able to appear before them. Almost like all of this was planned and they were all handpicked by the federalist society for just said purpose.

    I love that we have so many new magas so close to the election joining the board pushing the same narrative they all do — fascinating how that happens before each major election. Totally feels organic
     
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  5. Patricio Da Silva

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    The creation of a social safety net is not 'pandering'. That's a simpleton's view, a cynical view.
    More simpleton mentality.
    What is? Donald Trump is.

    "Vermin" "communists" "They're bringing rapists', etc. etc., etc.

    That's what real pandering is, helping people in need is doing one's job. Catering to their biases is what pandering is.
     
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    Their claiming that 'stare decisis' was solid with respect to Roe, that was clearly and obviously to imply they wouldn't shoot it down.

    Now, if you are going to say 'they didn't actually say that', that's what is known as 'lawyering the argument'

    We know damn well what they were implying, because they were trying to get the approval of democrats in the senate, without whose vote they wouldn't be appointed to the highest court, all the while they and no intention of respecting stare decisis with respect to Roe. they bamboozled thee senate, that means they lack integrity.

    So, with all these corrupt souls on the court, they are not going to rule from a point on high, they are going to rule from a point on low, hence money is speech, dark money now corrupts politics, voting rights gutted, women's reproductive rights destroyed in 1/3 of the states, endangering women's lives, all thanks to Republicans and their insane agenda.

    Well, the electorate knows what Republicans are all about, and we're seeing more and more Republicans backpedaling on abortion, but you can't change your stripes just to get votes, people are going to know, and rest assured, Dems are not going to let them forgot who Republicans really are.
     
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    Vote Republicans out of office. Pass a national Roe styled bill in congress. ETc.
     
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    What are you talking about? Dems, not repubs, have been winning elections across america.
     
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    Rebalance the court.
     
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    2 opened up. The first won was stolen by Mitch McConnell not honoring the time honored practice of letting a president appoint a supreme court justice. Unfortunately, the framers were unable to see that years in the future, some 200 or so years in the future, men who would not act in good faith would rise to power in congress and the presidency.
     
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    The constitution has areas of ambiguity that can be interpreted in more than one way, through a conservative lens, or a liberal lens.

    So, one man's 'following the constitution' is another man's 'advocacy'.
     
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    Keep winning the Presidency. Good luck.
     
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    Marriage is states issue and so is abortion. Do you know why?
     
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    Don't be sad... Just learn to code and remember that elections have consequences.... ;)
     
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    Oh my God it's like you already forgot the nuclear option.

    You know how they say you're not supposed to Grant yourself power that you're not willing to give your enemy?

    It appears that elected Democrat elites are too damn retarded to understand the concept.

    What comes around goes around and every dog has their day.... It ain't much fun when the rabbit has the gun.
     
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    I've somehow managed to give you the impression that I actually give a flying **** about Harris. My apologies, you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to convince me of your theory.

    Regardless of endless polls, I don't think the Biden campaign has any intention of dumping her on the SCOTUS.
     
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    This is precious coming from the gang that blames all evil in the world on liberals and worships a seditious criminal as their messiah.
     
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    That’s just maga fake news from a Russian propaganda farm.
    The right has been infiltrated by putin and are now shovelling his propaganda.
     
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    Why would I be sad?

    Both of my business are doing well, one not as well as I would like but it’s profitable but the other is making up for it.

    If we get a Republican president I will likely get a tax cut and maybe more free money

    If we get a Democrat president I get to watch the right have a meltdown for the next 4 years

    It’s a win / win
     
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    OH, so no personal freedoms are mentioned in the constitution ?

    SO what your saying is that their is no constitutional right to not take the vaccine ?
     
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    No matter how you try to distort or sugar-coat it, "robbing Peter to pay Paul" is Democrat cast-in-concrete doctrine! The "truth" of that observation is borne out while observing Democrat Party strategy which began with Frankie Roosevelt, swelled enormously under Lyndon Johnson, and grew even more monstrously under Barack Obama.

    "Peter" (a productive, self-supporting taxpayer) is getting damned sick of having to pay "Paul" (a welfare-sucking slacker). Nevertheless, I don't like Trump, and have said so over and over -- but -- the truth of the "Peter and Paul" situation that starkly and accurately describes the axiom about providers and parasites is true, no matter whether somebody like Trump hints at it or not. You can call it "simpleton", but often the truth is really not overly-complicated if you look at it objectively!
     
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    It amazes me how people do not see wasteful federal spending of tax money - green subsidies, erasing student loans, subsidizing EV's, etc. are trying to buy you off with your own money.
    Biden has fubar'ed the economy for a generation. If we still have a country.
     
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    That's a good question. There's a lot of controversy about that.
     
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    When talking about about courts, judges, and the law, and think that is exactly when you would expect to "lawyering the argument."

    What you are saying is that Judges should swear to never challenge and overturn a particular court decision, no matter how poorly decided. To me, that sort of expectation is unethical. How can you say as a judge that you would promise to protect a particular court decision regardless of how bad it is simply because there is a political constituency that wants it?

    You might as well argue that it's OK to bribe judges since the law is less important than a political outcome that you like.
     
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    That's exactly the problem with the left's view of the judiciary. For you guys, it IS about advocacy. The correct response to those areas about "ambiguity" is to do exactly what the court did, throw it back to the states.
     
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