Former President Trump released Top Secret Pentagon documents to reporters

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Prove it happened @truth and justice
    Blow this up someone else's backside... "according to a current and a former American official familiar" "according to the officials" when is the left's garbage reporting going to stop? The unnamed anonymous made up sources is getting old...@truth and justice ONCE AGAIN.... show us these documents.... show any proof or evidence or any verification by Trump or the Israelis this actually happened... anything other than your fake news outlets who circle jerk the same false information amongst themselves...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/world/middleeast/israel-trump-classified-intelligence-russia.html
    https://archive.is/ZGikX#selection-2049.207-2049.233

    The" heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend" hearsay stuff may have worked during the impeachment, but I am not letting you get away with it now... please provide credible sources with verified information..
     
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    Shouldn't you be asking CNN?
     
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    LOL you deny it happened then post the same link that I provided which proves you didn't even bother to read it!

    And shall we see Trump's response?

    Donald J. Trump
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    As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining....

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    ...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.

    And how do you think that we all found out what was discussed and that Israel was the source of The Top Secret information!

    Do you think a "friend" told us this TS information? Trump just cannot help himself. On the day we saw on video McMaster in a panicked state then his press brief that nothing secret was discussed then the following day we see Trump's Twitter post saying he had the right to tell anyone that Israel was the source meaning that McMaster lied and then had to backtrack
     
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    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    You are the one not reading what you posted.... "As President I wanted to share with Russia"...."which I have the absolute right to do" ....
    Hint.....Trump shared declassified information
    Hint.... it is not your call...
    Hint.... the President can declassify at will and does not need your permission.

    It seem the more shocking issue.... you are sharing classified information of a White House meeting... who leaks this stuff and is not held accountable?...
    Looks like we heard it all from a leak first, not from Trump, what say you?...
     
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    Lawyers Unable to Find Document Trump Discussed in Recorded Conversation

    Shortly after learning that former President Donald J. Trump had been recorded discussing what appeared to be classified material describing military options for confronting Iran, federal prosecutors issued a subpoena to his lawyers seeking the return of all records that resembled the document he mentioned, two people familiar with the matter said on Friday.

    But Mr. Trump’s legal team has informed the Justice Department that it was unable to find any such records in his possession, the people said. It is unclear whether prosecutors have been able to track down the document themselves, leaving open the possibility that the material remains at large or that the famously blustery Mr. Trump incorrectly described it on the recording.

    The subpoena, which was issued in March, sought any and all records pertaining to Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and to Iran, including maps or invasion plans, according to the people familiar with the matter. As part of their investigation, prosecutors have been asking witnesses whether Mr. Trump showed people a map he took with him when he left office that contains sensitive intelligence information.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/us/politics/classified-documents-trump-recording.html

    Perhaps the document ended up in a watery grave.

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    Why?.... CNN in the OP has not heard or seen any of it...it would be better to talk to their "secret" unnamed anonymous source.....
     
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    What contingency plan?
     
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    I still have not seen the plan, audio, or any documents.... but it was leaked to the reporters... so where are the leaked plan, audio, or any documents?.... the CNN has not seen or heard per the OP...

    What is so strange.... rules for thee but not for thee... does anyone have the transcript or video of the Biden/Zelenskyy meeting?

    and no one bats an eyes as the messiah is not to be questioned.....

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...8e80cc-e444-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html

    https://archive.is/F1Ppg
     
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    Going from it never happened to this ^

    LOL at you moving the goalpost!
     
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    The goal post is being moved by you... you keep missing the "which I have the absolute right to do" part of it...

    White House officials involved in the meeting said Trump discussed only shared concerns about terrorism.


    "Israel Said to Be Source of Secret Intelligence Trump Gave to Russians" is really "Israel Said to Be Source of declassified information Trump Gave to Russians"
    You are spreading misinformation again...""""Trump blurted out Israeli Top secret information to Russian diplomats at a meeting in The White House"""" is what you claimed.

    Again which came first the chicken or egg.... was the leak before or after Trump's tweet.... and why are we privy to classified oval office conversations? Why are we hearing a leak from WaPo and not Trump?

    """For almost anyone in government, discussing such matters with an adversary would be illegal. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.""" WaPo.
    https://archive.is/MMocD#selection-4227.0-4227.221

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

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    Lol first you post the same New York post that I had already posted after you claiming that it was all made up then you post the same Twitter posts that I had already posted that proved you wrong.
     
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    You have proven no one wrong... Trump passed "declassified information" during that meeting... not "secret intelligence"...

    As it was declassified... can you show us what that information was?
     
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    ^ so desperate

    First claim: Trump didn't tell them anything that was Top Secret. Trump's security advisor panics and calls security offices after reading the notes on the meeting. McMaster panics and gives urgent press briefing and says the information was already in public knowledge. Poster claims cnn lied (even though they were not the ones who broke the news)
    Poster's second claim: doesn't matter anyway because he declassified it at the meeting. That means that McMasters must have lied in the press briefing by stating that it was already public knowledge

    So desperate!
     
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    As explained in my original report, the Pentagon has a contingency plan for every hostile nation, and probably a few friendly ones, too.

    As President, even Trump would have known this.It is certainly possible that Trump may have been lying when he said he had the Top Secret Pentagon contingency plan involving Iran. Trump lies whenever it is convenient for him to do so.
     
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    Unless he was having his hair done and make-up put on during that briefing.
     
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    Or when he is running a bluff.
     
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    ... Trump gave credence to the speculation hours after the meeting concluded through an unrestrained, all-caps rant on Truth Social. “HOW CAN DOJ POSSIBLY CHARGE ME, WHO DID NOTHING WRONG, WHEN NO OTHER PRESIDENT’S WERE CHARGED, WHEN JOE BIDEN WON’T BE CHARGED FOR ANYTHING,” Trump railed. “ONLY TRUMP – THE GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF ALL TIME!”

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-loses-lawyers-beg-doj-204833199.html

    trump seems to be very concerned.
     
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    Republicans and others have completely changed the subject. This is what this thread is all about.

    Trump is intellectually marginal. He is a loud-mouth narcissist incapable of learning from the many mistakes caused by his own big mouth.

    The irony is, this is why his fans adore him. In a note of pure irony, while Trump is the party leader and the leading Republican candidate for President, his fans never discuss him. Note: See thread titles by Republicans.

    Trump's mouth got him in trouble again this week. His ignorance defense in the classified documents case is in shatters by his own doing.

    CNN reports, "Former President Donald Trump’s history of making inappropriate or questionable comments on tape got another chapter on Wednesday with fresh revelations from his post-White House life.

    "The latest example emerged from CNN’s exclusive reporting that federal prosecutors have an audio recording of Trump acknowledging he held onto a classified Pentagon document after leaving office. The tape seems unlikely to dent his political position as the frontrunner for the GOP nomination in 2024. But it could have real consequences in the legal limbo where he lives.

    "This latest tape could also end up as part of a criminal case. The recording is in the possession of the Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith, who’s investigating the retention of national defense information. Smith’s investigation has shown signs of nearing its end.

    "The recording of the July 2021 meeting seriously undercuts Trump’s longstanding argument that he mentally declassified material he took with him from the White House. It also adds his Bedminster club to the potential locations where Trump had classified documents after leaving office.

    "Trump causes questions about the exposure of the document since attendees at the meeting included people who did not have security clearances.

    "Smith has focused on the meeting as part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of national security secrets, and prosecutors have asked witnesses about the recording and the document before a federal grand jury.

    At the July meeting, "Trump points to a classified Pentagon document to try to refute the idea that Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley had been trying to stop him from starting a war with Iran. Note: The document is a contingency plan for a U.S. ground assault of Iran.

    "On the tape, he mentions the document, which he said came from Milley."

    Trump was clueless!

    "The Joint Chiefs of Staff has a directorate focused on developing and proposing strategies and plans for the chairman, and another that provides guidance about current plans and operations to commanders throughout the force," CNN.

    They are called contingency plans, and there are contingency plans involving various scenarios for every American rival. The former President did not know that!

    In a chronic need to brag about himself, Trump discussed Top Secret Pentagon contingency plans with a group of reporters!

    It is really difficult to accept that this intellectual weakling was once our President. It is equally difficult to accept that 55% of Republican voters want this mental midget to be our President again.
     
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    And Trump's tweet was 100% totally correct....
     
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    What part of "they were declassified" do you not understand? It was NOT TOP SECRET.

    Humor me...
    Please tell us what declassified information that Trump told the Russians.. Tell us specifically what he told them... yet once again the lefty wing media relies on hearsay and can not produce the actual information he released, so neither can you..
     
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    trump has never been correct about a single thing.
     
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    Oh my... are you alright?
     

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