Fox News & CNN - Two sides of the same coin?

I heard this quote from that potato head Brian Stelter, opining on Fox News:

"Fox News, despite having a newsroom with reporters and editors, is primarily a conservative entertainment operation and a Republican Party organ. The news doesn’t come first or even second at Fox. "

You know what? I agree with the potato. And as far as I am concerned, a bit of word replacement will get us this equally true statement:

CNN, despite having a newsroom with reporters and editors, is primarily a liberal operation and a Democratic Party organ. The news doesn’t come first or even second at CNN.

Of course, in addition to this, you could also include MSNBC, ABC, the Washington Post, New York Times and others as being a 'liberal operation' as well as being part of the 'Democratic Party organ.' This is the problem with pretty much ALL big media corporations: it's all about the narrative and supporting one party. I just note that it's WAY more in favour of the Democrats, and it's not even close! Other than Fox, what other pro-Republican media giant is there?

 

Cable news, for a very long time I have considered FoxNews as nothing more than the propaganda wing of the Republican Party. CNN and MSNBC being the propaganda wings for the Democratic Party. What they do is give their viewers their news with the proper political slant and bias for whichever party they’re propagandize for. These networks are owned by corporations which are in the news business to make money. The more viewership a network has, the more money they can charge for their commercials, the more money they make. The first task is to keep the viewership they have, hence the left and right, conservative and liberal tilts that their current audience expects and wants from them. Then they want to add more viewers.

The media has taken sides in our political battles. There’s very little trust or confidence in any of the MSM to report the news in a full, fair and accurate manner. You have this:

56% of Americans agree with the statement that "Journalists and reporters are purposely trying to mislead people by saying things they know are false or gross exaggerations."

58% think that "most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology or political position than with informing the public."

https://www.axios.com/2021/01/21/media-trust-crisis

and this

Americans' Trust In Media Remains Near Record Low – 36% of all Americans have a great deal or a fair amount of trust in the media to report the news in a fair, full and accurate manner. 34% not very much trust and 36% no trust at all. Which simply mean 60% of all Americans have little to no trust at all in the media reporting the news in a fair, full and accurate manner.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/403166...utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

It does seem most Americans realize the news they’re getting is biased toward one side or the other. Hence, the three cable news networks being propaganda wings of the two major parties doesn’t bother me much. Most Americans see right through them. FoxNews job is to convert viewers to be Republicans and vote Republican while MSNBC and CNN job is to convert viewers to be Democrats and vote Democratic. Not to report the news in a full, honest, fair, accurate manner. The news is always presented with what ever political slants and biases whichever network is a propaganda wing for.

 

The "they're all bad" defense of Faux has been popular among conservatives for some time now. Using it is not new. Using it following the revelations about Faux's duplicity just makes it a little more pathetic than usual.

 

Great post.

 

Defense? No, this is not in defense of Fox. It's simply point out that Fox is Republican, and the rest of big media is Democrat. Simple.

 

The numbers you give above are different to the Gallup source that you link to. A different source perhaps? The Gallup source that you link to says:

"At 34%, Americans' trust in the mass media to report the news "fully, accurately and fairly" is essentially unchanged from last year and just two points higher than the lowest that Gallup has recorded, in 2016 during the presidential campaign."

Just 7% of Americans have "a great deal" of trust and confidence in the media, and 27% have "a fair amount." Meanwhile, 28% of U.S. adults say they do not have very much confidence and 38% have none at all in newspapers, TV and radio."

The most telling part of that Gallup poll:

• 70% of Democrats, 14% of Republicans, 27% of independents trust media

Gee, I wonder why 70% of Democrats trust media!

 

Monetizing information through selling ads means that popular information is more valuable than accurate information.

The problem is allowing the free market to fund information. It'd be great if the public demanded accurate information and made it popular, but that isn't going to happen.

 

Of course it's a defense of Faux. If "they all do it" then Faux doesn't stand out for being the uniquely lying, deceitful, propagandizing outlet promoting the POT it was revealed to be. Crafting their content to fit the desires of the audience to the extent it acknowledged it was afraid to tell the audience the truth for fear of losing some to other rampant liars like Newsmax and OAN. But Faux is unique.

 

POT?

 

If Fox, OAN and Newsmax went away tomorrow, the next day someone would fill their place. There is a market for it. The market is the problem.

 

You're wrong on the rest of the big media. Some are no doubt.
But there's a plethora of non partisan media.

But everyone should have known that the 24/7 medial shows that push daily stories are out to sell their views to a target audience.
Those are not news media, they are reality tv media based on daily happenings of the world. A National Enquirer type entertainment.

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Fox News (foxnews.com) - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)
CNN - Media Bias/Fact Check (mediabiasfactcheck.com)
Media Bias/Fact Check - Search and Learn the Bias of News Media (mediabiasfactcheck.com)

 

Party of Trump.

 

Yes, but let's be specific. The demand doesn't just come from people who hold conservative beliefs. The demand comes from those who are addicted to faux outrage. Generated by consuming lies and half truths.

 

Yes, but corporations have a fiduciary responsibility to their investors. If selling rage helps the bottom line, a corporation will do it. It is the only reason a corporation exists.

It's a don't hate the player, hate the game situation. The free market will only provide popular information. If accurate information isn't popular, then the free market isn't the best way to fund information.

 

Would you say that pre-2020 election it stood out? Or does it only stand out because of the election denial stuff?

Can you quote someone at Fox saying this?

 

Can you give examples?

 

Many news organizations maintain journalistic standards while meeting their fiduciary obligations and by doing so do not prostitute themselves as Faux has. If you trace Murdoch's history his media empire was built on appealing to the lowest impulses of his audience. His papers always have had splashy headlines meant to entertain, not inform. He took that biz model and applied it to Faux, with a heavy emphasis on misinformation for the sake of promoting his own conservative politics........and his wallet.

 

Spot on. Great post!

What amazes me is that many people will not believe anything until it has been reported on by these propaganda outlets. They instead dismiss it as "conspiracy theory", until there is an official party acknowledgement by their preferred propagandists.

 

New organizations that provide unbiased news are dying out, they are being outcompeted by propaganda networks.

 

Which ones remain?

 

click on the links in the post you responded to and reposted here.

 

Those are links to the mediabiasfactcheck profiles for Fox News and CNN.

 

I don't think there has ever been a completely unbiased news organization.

 

Thr 3rd one lets you search for any news agency you want.

 

You said that "there's a plethora of non partisan media." How do you know?