Fox News lied 85 Times!! Benghazi stand-down lies

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  1. banchie

    banchie New Member

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    Fox Claimed ”Stand Down” Order Was Given To Benghazi Response Teams

    Fox Pushed Myth That Forces In Libya Were Given A “Stand Down” Order At Least 85 Times. In the ten months following the Benghazi attacks, Fox News claimed at least 85 times that troops in Tripoli, Libya, were ordered to “stand down” and not assist those under attack that night in Benghazi. [Media Matters, 6/27/13]

    Declassified Transcript: No Stand Down Order Was Given

    LTC. S.E. Gibson: ”I Was Not Ordered To Stand Down” Going To Benghazi Could Have Been “Catastrophic.” Testimony from a declassified June 26, 2013, House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation hearing soundly debunked the notion that a ”stand down” order was given to Tripoli security team leader LTC. S.E. Gibson during the attacks. From Gibson’s testimony (emphasis added):

    Declassified Transcript: No Stand Down Order Was Given

    LTC. S.E. Gibson: ”I Was Not Ordered To Stand Down” Going To Benghazi Could Have Been “Catastrophic.” Testimony from a declassified June 26, 2013, House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation hearing soundly debunked the notion that a ”stand down” order was given to Tripoli security team leader LTC. S.E. Gibson during the attacks. From Gibson’s testimony (emphasis added):


    REP. ROBY (R-AL): At the May 8 hearing of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Gregory Hicks, who was the Deputy Chief of Mission at the Embassy in Tripoli that you have referred to, on the day of Benghazi attacks, he was asked by a Member, and I quote, “You believed help was needed in Benghazi, and there was a SOF unit, Special Operations unit, ordered to stand down, correct?” And Mr. Hicks replied “yes” to this question. Do you agree that you and your team were ordered to, quote, “stand down”?

    LTC. GIBSON: Madam Chairman, I was not ordered to stand down. I was ordered to remain in place. “Stand down” implies that we cease all operations, cease all activities. We continued to support the team that was in Tripoli. We continued to maintain visibility of the events as they unfolded.

    REP. ROBY: And, in hindsight, which we have tried in asking a lot of these questions to make sure that we are looking at this situation based on what you knew at the time, and, of course, looking back on what we know now, should you and your team have gone to Benghazi?

    LTC. GIBSON: Madam Chairman, if we would have went to Benghazi, it could have had catastrophic -- are you talking about the first plane or the second plane, Madam Chairman?

    REP. ROBY: The second plane, when you were told not to go.

    LTC. GIBSON: The Special Forces medic was instrumental in providing the support to the wounded that returned. We would not have been in Tripoli in order to provide that support if we would have got on the plane. The decision by my higher headquarters to not get on that plane was the correct decision, in hindsight. [House Of Representatives Hearing Subcommittee On Oversight Investigations, 6/26/13, accessed 1/14/14]
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  2. smevins

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    If you don't want the press to tell lies then perhaps you shouldn't be an adamant supporter of the WH that seems incapable of telling the truth. "Why that is [ executive privilege protected b) a matter of national security or c) something you'll just have to trust us on it] (choose up to 3 and you can be WH press secretary)
     
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    Strawman.

    You didn't address the question.

    My response to the thread:
    Fox News lying is nothing we aren't accustomed to.
     
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    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    How many times did Obama lie, when after the attack, the Pentagon called him and told him it was terrorism, yet he went on for 2+ weeks claiming it was a silly Youtube video demonstration... that didn't exist?

    I guess you guys think a news network lying is worse than your president.

    And by news network, I mean only FOX.
     
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    When "EXACTLY" was it when the Pentagon told Obama it was terrorism? Links please so we will know the exact time and day he received that information. If you cannot produce that information, then we will know for sure who is lying. Also, what day and time did Obama announce to the rest of us about the lie you are accusing him of, about continuing to tell the american people it was the you tube video instead of terrorism? Times and dates must jive to corroborate your accusation for it to be true, what it is "YOU" are saying about him :smile: By the way, just to give you a heads up; the bipartisan senate committee report did mention that the you tube video could have played a part in why this attack occurred. They aren't ruling it out.
     
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    Talk about strawmen. 1)There is no "question" in the OP to be addressed and 2) you didn't address the imaginary question that you allege to be in the OP
     
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    What is the virtue of one lie justifying another lie?
     
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    Fox News lying again color me shocked. I guess now we can stop with all the fake Bengahzi ourage. Oh wait that will never happen cause a black man is President.
     
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    It can be proven that Fox News is essentially about lies; showing that network lies A LOT... is elementary.

    And if the President had been proven to lie on something like Benghazi... he would already have been impeached.
     
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    Watch most responses Will talk about The president and not Fox News
    I have a friend with Alzheimer's disease And he can concentrate on a subject either
    I wonder about some conservatives on this board
     
  11. banchie

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    The thing is, the video shows Obama the next day in the rose garden calling it terrorism, not that it matters........lol


    [video=youtube;rDANcaPx1xg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDANcaPx1xg[/video]
     
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    Semantics.

    Question / topic, whatever. You didn't address the topic at hand. You inserted your own rant to deflect the focus away from the OP, rather than address the topic.

    Hence: strawman.
     
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    So basically you are saying DCM Hicks, who was in charge of all State Dept employees once Stevens was dead, is lying. He's the one that said people were told to stand down, in front of Congress. I remember hearing it.
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    The GOP has has been BOUGHT by those with money

    They have essentially been convinced by that 'money', to hold the middle class down; that is why nothing they promote actually HELPS the middle class.
    (Their 'talking' or 'words' amount to Right-wing pep rallies. It's all about 'attitude' with them. The GOP hasn't actually DONE anything and don't intend to... unless it leads to a larger slice of the pie for those paying them. They have fooled a lot of voters, by painting fellow patriots as being some "enemy"; divide/conquer.)

    There is a LOT that needs to CHANGE... but notice how the GOP advocates for adhering to OLD ideas, mindsets and attitudes. (It is VERY obvious.)

    There was a time when only Blacks were treated as being 'beneath' all others. Today, the wealthy (GOP) are simply going after ALL OTHERS (those who USED to be middle class and are headed toward being in poverty).

    The GOP does NOTHING for the middle class, they only 'talk' about doing things for the same.
     
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    That's because real timelines have been hidden. They make up the timeline as they go along.
     
  16. banchie

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    Does he know there is a partial cure for him? There is a tape showing the Australian doctor who discovered it, as he treats his patients in Los Angeles.

    Here is a link to several reports http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alzheimer 's disease treatment&sm=1


    SEE THIS!!!

    [video=youtube;5PGKizEl7dA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PGKizEl7dA[/video]
     
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    lol libs
    YOu somehow see the Fox lies about Benghazi and its super duper important!
    but
    BUT
    Obama the guy WHO ALLOWED THE DEATHS TO OCCUR IN THE FIRST PLACE then lied to the nation about it to cover it up and lefties are like no no, nothing to see here. Your minds are fascinating to watch in action.
    Here lets illustrate. Has Obama lied about anything thus far in your opinion? Now keeping in mind we already know he lied about keeping our healthcare Im curious to see if you fingers will let you type facts. Again knowing we already know he lied.
     
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    We'll, I guess that settles the mystery of who is the one "really" lying then. That was quick. Why do they set themselves up so easily do you think?
     
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    No I am the only one to properly address. The whole OP is a strawman in this perpetual Obama is a saint and anyone who opposes Obama is a racist devil nonsense. If the government does not provide reliable. consistent information, then the press must rely on other sources that may or may not be reliable. "What does it matter?" really adds nothing to an investigation into why Americans died. Even the families of the victims got jerked around with the truth, and we are suppose to believe a group whose cracker jack investigative team was beaten to the scene by CNN?
     
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    I find it strange that YouTube vids provoke responses in countries not even connected to the internet. Libya has what, less than 10% of people connected to the internet, and probably less than that immediately following the conflict? 2 days later Bangladesh, parts of northern Pakistan, and other places with less than 5% connected to the internet coming out in mass demonstrations. And why would they be chanting, "Obama, Obama, we are all Osama!" if organized around the offense of prophet Mohammed? Strange....
     
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    Now they'll say, "What difference does it make?"
     
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    That's what someone should have said to Obama, Clinton, and Rice. Someone who has spent time in a country with little internet use. As soon as they mentioned the YouTube video, someone should have asked, "What difference could it make?"
     
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    Are we going to have to set you straight like Micketto? Apparently so! What proof do you have Obama allowed these deaths to occur? The bipartisan senate committee report has not faulted him personally for these deaths. Now it is up to you to prove your case. Also, where and how did you obtain proof that Obama lied to the nation to cover up these deaths, that there was nothing to see? Because, if there was nothing to see and Obama was lying about that, then what was it that we needed to see, since you are saying he is lying about that? In order to make such an accusation, you must have proof. I'll be waiting for you to reveal these mysteries about Obama that no one else knows about but you.
     
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    From EXECUTIVE SESSION, BENGHAZI BREIFING (Part 1, Session 2, DoD), House of Representatives, Committee on Armed Services, Subcommittee On Oversight and Investigations, May 21, 2013:

    General Roberson: p. 52 – He knew for sure at 5, because that’s when he was meeting with the Secretary of Defense and the chairman.

    I think that's 11pm Benghazi, maybe midnight. Attack occurred at 9:42 pm Benghazi.
     
  25. Gatewood

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    Um . . . a bipartisan committee is NOT unequally stacked with more democrats than republicans.
     

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