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  1. Kaleokualoha

    Kaleokualoha New Member

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    Despite conclusive evidence from the State of Hawaii confirming Obama's birth ( http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf ), confirmation by both houses of Congress, and despite rejection from mainstream conservatives, the lunatic fringe still challenges his eligibility.

    Even Fox News reports expert opinion that the BC is authentic. See: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit ).

    NOTE: Fox's expert subsequently took issue with Fox's "authentic" claim, and posted “In my humble opinion, what I see about how the PDF is built does not prove any falsification. If there was tampering, we must look elsewhere and not how the PDF was created.” ( http://www.wnd.com/2011/06/314041/ ) Tremblay's double negative ("does not prove any falsification") may be reasonably interpreted as an endorsement. Coupled with a similar opinion from The National Review ( http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding#), which also found no evidence of falsification, the consensus from leading conservative media is irrefutable.

    Delusion #1 claims that Obama is ineligible because he was not born in the United States, and the State of Hawaii certified birth certificate is a forgery. Delusion #2 claims that Obama is ineligible because his father was not an American. Delusion #3 claims that Obama is ineligible because he lost his American citizenship as a child. Delusion #4 claims that Frank Marshall Davis is actually Obama's father. NOTE: "Davis Birthers" seem to reject the "NBC Birther" arguments because this means both parents would be citizens.

    Such delusional thinking is common among the paranoid denizens of Right-Wing Fantasyland (see http://kaleokualoha2878577.newsvine...31-disinformation-from-right-wing-fantasyland).

    "Falsehoods not only disagree with truths, but usually quarrel among themselves."
    - Daniel Webster, American, Statesman Quotes
     
    Kaleokualoha, Sep 7, 2012
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  2. ptif219

    ptif219 Well-Known Member

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    No he delayed and delayed as long as he could
     
    ptif219, Sep 9, 2012
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    nope. he remains the only president in US history who has ever proven he was actually eligible to hold the office.
     
    rahl, Sep 9, 2012
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    In your opinion. He is the only president it was ever needed because he was so secretive about his life
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    I don't believe politicians
     
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    Yes he did but you will not believe it if it is not an Obama lie
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    Then stop the talk about BC that means nothing
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    Here it is again and I am sure you will still deny it

     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    Yet it took years to produce. That shows me something was made up and we may have had a forgery process. It takes days not years to produce a birth certificate. Why does Obama have to rely on Hawaii? I keep a copy. Is Obama that incompetent he does not keep his own important papers like a birth certificate? Seems fishy to me
     
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    Yet it took years to produce. That shows me something was made up and we may have had a forgery process. It takes days not years to produce a birth certificate. Why does Obama have to rely on Hawaii? I keep a copy. Is Obama that incompetent he does not keep his own important papers like a birth certificate? Seems fishy to me
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    What was he secretive about? Name one thing Obama hid about his past that other Presidents released. Just one.

    Do you understand that it is logically impossible for the birth certificate to be a forgery? Do you understand why that is impossible?
     
    BullsLawDan, Sep 10, 2012
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    He took years to get Hawaii to produce a BC and you act like that is normal. none of this makes sense unless you drink the Obama koolaid
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    You would if a politician said Obama was born in Kenya.

    It is obvious that you reject anything that doesn't say that Obama is not eligible- and accept anything that says Obama is not eligible- regardless of the credibility of either.
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    You didn't answer my question.

    You said, in regard to him being the only President to release his birth certificate:
    So, prior to the first call to release his birth certificate, what was he so secretive about? Name something Obama kept a secret that other Presidents exposed.

    I'm not going to drop this, so if you don't have an answer, say so now.
     
    BullsLawDan, Sep 10, 2012
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    Seriously- why should we believe that you have your birth certificate?

    Contrast yourself and President Obama.

    President Obama, back in 2008, when challenged as to his name and place of birth, published a copy of his official State of Hawaii issued birth certificate.

    His place of birth and his birth certificate were both verified by the Republican Director of Health.

    You? We haven't seen your birth certificate. You won't even accept verification by the people entrusted with keeping Hawaii's birth certificates, and you expect us to believe you have one? LOL.

    Then President Obama requests the State of Hawaii make an exception to their procedures and produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate because the idiot Trump said he didn't have one, and Hawaii gives two to Obama and Obama shows them to reporters and posts them on the internet for everyone to see.

    You? Nothing.

    You don't believe politicians.

    I don't believe you.

    Meanwhile Obama is the only President who has ever proved he was eligible.

    Romney meanwhile has shown America the same type of BC that Obama showed in 2008. And you have no problem with Romney's.

    Birthers lol.
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    Of course he didn't. Hawaii sent Obama his BC when he requested on in 2007. He showed it to us in 2008. All of it makes sense to everyone but delusional Birthers.
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    Maybe it was Indonesia. We will never know
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    His mentor
     
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    I have always kept mine. you need it now for a drivers license. I know of no one that does not keep a copy of their birth certificate
     
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    If that were true we would not be talking about Abercombie
     
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    If that were true we would not be talking about Abercombie
     
    ptif219, Sep 10, 2012
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    No one is but Birthers....and like I said- Birthers are delusional.
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    You will never know. Everyone else does.
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    As if we can believe that......
     
    SFJEFF, Sep 10, 2012
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    it's not an opinion that no other president in US history has ever proven they were eligible. That's a matter of historical fact.

    so secretive, he wrote two best selling autobiographies, and remains the only president in US history to have ever proven he was eligible.

    birthers are retarded.
     
    rahl, Sep 10, 2012
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