Fraser Anning owes us some money!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01...d-by-his-decision-to-attend-protests/10688812

Does anyone think this is OK?

 

He may be an idiot, but I also think she is.

She heads to rallies to support the green agenda, a part of the population that elects her to the senate. And fair enough, that is what she stands for and they are who she represents.

He heads to rallies to support far right points of view, and the type of constituents who elect him to the senate. And fair enough too, that is what he believes in and they are who he represents.

I see no difference.

I support niethers crap, but I do support their right to voice it. If my hard earned pays for her SH!T then it may as well pay for his.

 

We have a pretty good record of agreement, I think. BUT I cannot agree here for several reasons.

First and foremost, he left his electorate in Queensland to attend a rally in Victoria on issues relating to Victoria. He states it is because it is a federal government issue. SO let us get this straight, Is he not a federally elected official of the parliament of Australia??? Now I know many want to claim difference of partisan politics, but all those people elected to seats in state and federal offices are the GOVERNMENT. This round the government is predominantly lead by Coalition majority supported by independents. This does not mean the ALP\Greens coalitions are not part of the government. It just means their policy stance is not the predominant government agenda. SO affectively this fool is demonstrating against himself.

Second, he claims not to be aware of the rest of the movement, yet he stands side by side with one who has been found guilty of racist acts.


Personally, while I do accept his right to freedom of speech, I don’t consider this a freedom of speech action. I think he should be expelled from the senate as he does not represent the values of the nation but his own personal values.

AS you point out Hanson-Young has nothing to crow about here. Her and her parties constantly showing they believe activism should stand above law and order especially on some of the stupid things they stand for..

And then we have Penny Wong, OMG. Let us score political points on the disgraceful actions of a fellow senator. I guess when you rely on the support of those found guilty of committing domestic violence and demeaning women, we expect nothing more. Let us not forget that credible personal attack on another female politician, what a scumbag she is turning out to be.


I expect more from BB in comment but I will say, it appears that the next election will rid the nation of a few bad eggs. Shame, it takes so long for that to occur.

 

He got 19 primary votes

So who is he representing again??

 

Sorry but I think you might have Penny Wong mixed with someone else

And no I do not agree that politicians in our country should be attending racist rallies

 

Firstly I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of SHY, and any other politician for that fact. To be calling out another pollitician for misusing taxpayers funds is laughable.

Would it be different if he took the family on a lavish holiday, or the footy grand final, or harbour cruise? In fact, attending a political demonstration may be seen as perhaps a more appropriate use of the money than a five star getaway with the girlfriend.

Do I agree with the content of the demonstration. Not at all, but are we talking about the content, or the misuse of the money?

 

Both

As has been pointed out he is a Queensland senator (well at least until the next election) and his primary focus should be the people he represents.

This is someone who is too far right for the Katter party

If anyone had read the link in to the ABC website they would have found more than one politician had condemned his behaviour

 

And this is my argument here. The hypocrisy. Not only from other politicians, and in all due respect BB, yourself included.

I don’t see you arguing Penny Wongs countless attendances of Gay Marriage protest Australia wide, even though she is from South Australia? A large swathe of the population disagreed with her, but you didn’t so you ignore it. This is my point.

Using your argument you must condemn PW for the same crime, and most probably every other politician. Misuse of tax payers money to push ones own agenda outside of their electorate. This is your argument is it not?

 

The bastards are all the same..an election gets rid of a few bad eggs, sure....but then we get a few rotten
eggs..nothing changes....dont get me started on SHY and PW....

 

Because Wong was about inclusion of people whereas the far right is about exclusion

 

This level of discourse is rare indeed.

Well done.

 

Doesn’t matter what she was about, your argument is the misuse of taxpayer dollars due to the fact he was demonstrating with zealots in Victoria when in fact he was an elected senator of Queensland. Absolutely no difference to what PW and most other politicians have done.

If indeed your argument was about this biggoted fool demonstrating with these protestors and is that the look we want. You would get no argument from me, but to disguise your real beef under the argument of misuse of taxpayer funds is hypocritical. Sorry but that is how I see it.

If indeed you called out every politician for the misuse of public funds, as Garry does and has done so for many years, I could buy that. But to defend PW, and she is but one example I have plucked from the opposing side to prove a point, for perpetrating the same act, regardless how noble it may seem, is a little bit of cherry picking tribalism in my opinion.

BB I agree with your view in regards to his politics, I just find your argument and many others in regards to misuse of public moneys hypocritical.

 

More evidence to suggest that these things need to be tightened up. Any pollie better have a damn good reason for spending public monies, don't care where they're from. The purpose of the Senate has been lost, I thought it was for Senators to represent their states, not their parties or ideologies. Small wonder we're cynical.

 

There is something wrong with system, terribly wrong. As BB has pointed out, he is there on so little votes, and he has not been the only one over the years.

 

No, she definitely tried to make it political point scoring effort and she made personal attack on fellow female South Australian MP in the same interview.

OR do you mean her reliance on the support for political expediency??? No, she also stands the position she is in due to the same support her grubby leader holds. She simply has not been asked if she condemns it.

As for your part, I don’t believe you agree with this in any form. I just feel we agree on this to a degree and that you would have been far better at comment than me.

 

I am sorry, Penny Wong is inclusive??? Just have to wonder what planet your talking about. Her inclusion does not include the Earth, that is for sure.

 

I use the term elected very liberally here. SInce tossing PM's to the side every other election seems the norm, hard to split hairs on this.

 

Bloody sight more inclusive than the rabid racists floating around this board

 

Agreed

 

I don't know what is going on over there but I am curious....is anyone who sees a problem with immigrant gangs defined as racist and far right extremist??

 

So what are you suggesting...is there any legislation that states I must love everyone...gimme a break....

 

It depends on an individual's point of view. I don't see the critique of gang behaviour as being racist or extremist but then I'm looking at them as criminals regardless of ethnicity. I think some people are expression racist views particularly when smearing a whole community for the actions of a few. I would bet the individuals involved are a relatively small number, a cohesive group and not representative of their community. Get stuck into them for being crooks, not being African.

I've seen the same thing in my city when a floating gang of Aboriginal youths were causing problems with criminal activity over several years. The media came up with a tag "The Gang of ...(insert number from 10 to 40)" and went to town. The gang was actually a sort of clearing house for juvenile offenders rather than a solid team composed of a constant number of individuals. Haven't heard much about them for a while and that could be because the police responded pretty well to the situation and managed it. But for a while there every Aboriginal youth was seen as a member of the Gang of Whatever. Not so.

 

No but first you actually have to have some

 

And so does Cormann...$37K.....but we wont do anything....we're gutless

 

Only if they only have a problem with crime based on the race of the offender. The extremists at the st kilda rally admire Hitler and were doing nazi salutes. I'd be more than willing to deport them to Nauru or the White House