Freddie Gray Arresting Officer Edward Nero Found Not Guilty On All Charges

Absolutely she doesn't get to make those calls and violate the defendant's right to due process and be presented with ALL the evidence. When is the State AG going to step in on this and have her removed then summarily fired?

 

Not guilty as in today's verdict where the Judge had to stop to prosecuter in their closing statement to ask "where is the evidence of the charges!!!!!" as in no evidence of guilt.

On what basis do YOU question his innocence?

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Judge to prosecution "WHERE THE HELL IS YOUR EVIDENCE!!"

 

And now her entire case being flushed down the toilet in this verdict, her judicial misbehaviour in spite of repeated warnings by the Judge, she should be disbarred.

 

It wouldn't be the first US kangaroo court where the judge lets the police go, while the government accepts the guild and pays the relatives a multi million amount of money.

 

No she's not she is supposed to do her own which she did NOT before bringing these charges. And then the city settled when the family does not deserve a dime of taxpayer money.

 

Spare me your utter conjecture. What don't you understand THERE IS NO EVIDENCE of police wrongdoing and in fact evidence otherwise. The judge several times pleaded with the prosecution to present evidence to support their allegations and they could not. He even stopped them in their closing statement pleading where is your evidence to support this and they could present nothing. The police did not cause his death.

 

Yeah right. And after this case, she works with the police again, like she did before.

They wouldn't settle it by paying well over 6 million bucks, if it wasn't a sure thing the city would lose.

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What exactly don't you understand the city paying well over 6 million bucks?

 

She works with HER investigators.. You do realize she let loose the charges within 24 hours of getting the autopsy without ANY investigation on her part.

The only thing that was sure was there was no evidence to prove otherwise. You DO realize you are talking out both sides of your mouth here. On the one hand saying the police withheld evidence or the case was lost because they did not invesitgate fully and then on out the otherside that the local official knew it was a sure thing the officers were guilty so they settled for over $6 MILLION.

Care to reconcile that?

I understand they are incompetent fools like the DA. Thankfully after the flak the mayor announced she would not run for reelection.

So what was this evidence the city had to proved it was sure thing the officers murdered Grey but they apparently didn't give to the DA and why wouldn't they?

 

How often do I need to repeat that this person has been working WITH the police for her entire career before this and will be working WITH the police after this? It's obvious who her friends are for her personal career.

Apart that somebody died while in police custody, and failed to bring him to a hospital in time. And that the police always gets away with these things in the past, even when they strangle an unarmed person to death in the middle of the streets who says that he can't breathe.

yeah... you're the expert and they aren't. Or oh wait.. you're the anonymous poster mature and they are the experts. Hence you're opinion must be wrong, and they -and me- are right.

 

If she survives to get another case HER investigators investigate. So now you are claiming she rushed to charge the police in some conspiracy to get them off.

Care to explain how you fit that square peg into the round hole?

Sure they would, you are uttering pure conjecture as if it were fact. What SURE evidence was there that was not presented in this plot you claim?

What don't YOU understand, it was political. They showed their total incompetence by settling when the investigation wasn't even over nor any trials to determine any guilt. It was an appeasement to the thugs who were burning down the city and demanding the innocent officers be sent to prison. And they settled for an amount that was probably 1000% more than Grey would have ever earned had he survived.

 

Do explain why she would take them court if she is in this conspiracy, she could have not charged, she should have not charged them from the getgo. And she has never shown any favor towards police she was hoping to advance her carrier by taking these innocent officers to court and getting convictions, not getting them off.

Wrong as proven in court, the hospital could not have saved him by the time his injuries were discovered.

If he couldn't breath he couldn't speak and the struggle was of his own doing. Fight an arrest with several officers when you have a severe heart problem and you put your own life at risk.

ROFL you don't have to be an expert to see that.

So what evidence are you claiming proved the officers committed a murder, evidence the DA must have withheld according to your claim her goal was to get not guilty verdicts.

 

Normally the people who do the investigating,... is the police. And that is where her loyalty lies. That is my point

People didn't have a vote on it.

That's your opinion as an amateur, vs their experts who didn't dare to go with a sure loose to a court.

 

Because that already was determined. To do a bad job at it to try and prosecute the people who normally help her out all the time, is her own choice.

That is totally irrelevant. He was a person in need and they refused it.

Actually. The police deliberately placed an illegal choke hold to strangle him to death in a public execution. The death was ruled a homicide because it was the result of "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police." Asthma, heart disease, and obesity were cited as just contributing factors.

Yes you do. People go to college to study law.

His broken spine. To claim that is totally self inflicted is just going total retard.

 

The DA has their own team of investigators, they do their own interviews, they work with the Medical Examiners office.

The point you are so desperate to make is the Mosely was in cahoots with the police force in order to get the officers exonerated. That is patently absurd.

What does that have to do with, the people involved were doing it to GET their votes at election time and they put these officers through this without any supporting evidence in order to do it. Moseby should be brought before the BAR and have her license suspended.

No it's the opinion of legal experts and the Judge who has heard the cases, a judge who before he was a judge went after police misconduct. They had no idea how the court cases would proceed but the lack of evidence certainly pointed to no civil liability in the matter and ESPECIALLY not $6 million. They settled for policial reasons not because they were supporting the police or believed they acted wrongly, they had no evidence they did.

What is the evidence you claim they had that made it a "sure thing" they would lose in a civil trial?

 

As another poster posted

“[Baltimore City State’s Attorney Marilyn] Mosby did what she had to do to get the charges, with having an independent investigation, because if she had not, with the police investigating the police, there would be no charges,” Hines added. “I was most proud of her for that. She did what she had to in order to make sure officers would stand trial, and it’s up to a judge or jury to determine guilt or innocence.” - Debbie Hines

Sharon Black, an activist with People’s Power Assembly, said she was cautiously optimistic about the outcome. “We can’t get justice in the courts,” Black said. “So we have to get it in the streets. It’s going to take mobilizing and bigger efforts to make sure justice is served.”

https://www.theroot.com/articles/new...e-grays-death/

Totally relevant to you claim they did not get him care that would have saved his life. And the trial proved your statement wrong.

And at trial that was disproven, his heart condition killed him, he was breathing on the ground for several minutes AFTER they put him on the ground and released him AND the films showed the back of the hand of the officer near his throat and then his arm slipped as the prep was fighting with them. Don't want to be injured during an arrest, don't resist. You lost that case too, just admit it.

You don't have to be an expert to see incompetence in the law.

That doesn't prove murder, he died because of his own misadventure.

 

Right. So whatever the police finds, and detectives work out is never used by the DA to prosecute the bad people.
FFS man... think!

If it's political than it has to do with voting... but it aint so at all.

Dude. The evidence is a broken spine while in police custody.
It's going into full retard to claim you can break your own spine while sitting in a car.
Hence the police is guilty and the city paid up.

 

While normally she gets everything handed over by the police and after this case, if she still has that position, she will be relying 100% on that same police.

My point was that they did not give any care. That they broke his spine in their custody, and you can't fix that is besides the point.

You indeed don't need to be an expert that a broken spine while in custody is a case you can not win.
You do need to be an expert to bargain how much guilt it is that gets transformed in to coin.
A coin worth over 6 million bucks in the case.

Negative. It's impossible to break your spine while sitting in a car on your own.

 

So you didn't listen to her little speech announcing the indictments where she said it was based on an INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION by HER office, yes DA's have highly trained investigators who review police evidence and their own evidence.

WHAT? Where on earth did you pick up that little piece of nonsense? Yeah it's about voting, it's about them getting votes next election.

DUDE that was just the result it is evidence of nothing other than a broken neck.

I agree and just as full retard to think it happened while he was sitting in a car.

So give me your evidence which the prosecution did not have that proved the office driving the van caused his death, the evidence beyond a reasonable doubt that proves it.

And BTW that indictment Mosby did get as she was trying to get them off as you are claiming, well the Boston Sun just turned this up and could get her a term in jail.

Police detective says misleading narrative presented to grand jury in Freddie Gray case, records show

e lead Baltimore police detective in the Freddie Gray investigation said she reluctantly read to grand jurors a summary of evidence provided by prosecutors that she believed was misleading, according to police records reviewed by The Baltimore Sun.

Hours later, the grand jurors issued criminal indictments against six police officers in the arrest and death of Gray.

Detective Dawnyell Taylor said in a daily log of case notes on the investigation that a prosecutor handed her a four-page, typed narrative at the courthouse just before she appeared before the grand jury.

"As I read over the narrative it had several things that I found to be inconsistent with our investigation," Taylor wrote, adding: "I thought the statements in the narrative were misquoted."

But, she wrote, she was "conflicted" about challenging the state's attorney on the narrative in the courtroom. "With great conflict I was sworn in and read the narrative provided," she said in her notes.

When the jurors asked questions, including whether Gray's arrest was legal, Taylor wrote that prosecutors intervened before she could give an answer that would conflict with their assessment.

The claims in her account underscore a rift between prosecutors and police that began in the spring of last year, when the two agencies worked together on parallel tracks to investigate Gray's death.

Some police officials believe prosecutors moved too quickly and have questioned their findings, while prosecutors have raised questions about whether police were seeking to absolve the officers of wrongdoing. Prosecutors have accused Taylor in court of trying to sabotage their case.

Taylor's case notes were provided to The Baltimore Sun anonymously, and Sun reporting verified their authenticity. Portions of the notes, which span a four-month period beginning with Gray's death on April 19, 2015, were discussed in court during testimony at the trial of Officer Caesar Goodson Jr. Taylor's account of the grand jury proceedings was not discussed.

The trial concluded Thursday with Judge Barry Williams acquitting Goodson on all counts, including second-degree murder. Goodson drove the transport van in which Gray suffered fatal spinal injuries.

State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby must now decide within days how to proceed with the trial of the next officer, scheduled to begin July 5.

Mosby's office declined to comment. Prosecutors, defense lawyers, witnesses and others involved in the case are under a gag order that prohibits them from publicly discussing it.

Taylor testified in the Goodson trial that she turned her notes over to defense lawyers, who objected that prosecutors didn't provide them first. Prosecutors said in court that they didn't have the notes. Taylor later testified that she offered to provide her notes but that prosecutors didn't want them.

Williams faulted prosecutors for not obtaining the notes and turning them over, as required under discovery.

During an exchange in court, Chief Deputy State's Attorney Michael Schatzow accused Taylor of "sabotage" and said that he had sought to have her removed from the investigation last summer.

In the final days of Goodson's trial, Taylor sat in the courtroom — with the defense team.

The city's police union took to social media the day after the Goodson verdict, posting a photo of Leonardo DiCaprio raising a glass and the text: "Here's to the Baltimore 6 defense team, the FOP and Detective Taylor." In another post with a photo of Mosby, the union wrote, "The Wolf That Lurks."

Baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin Davis responded Saturday with a statement: "Inappropriate, insensitive remarks or attacks that serve to detract from our necessary relationships with our community and criminal justice partners have no place in our City."

The Fraternal Order of Police posts have since been deleted.

Prosecutors worked with police investigators as well as the city sheriff's office on the Gray case. But in a court filing this month, a top sheriff's commander, who obtained the warrants for the police officers' arrests, played down his office's role.

The commander said in an affidavit that he had "no involvement whatsoever" in the investigation by the state's attorney's office. He said prosecutors provided him a narrative that formed the basis for the charging documents.

Taylor's case notes shed light on the grand jury process, which by law is secret.

She said that Deputy State's Attorney Janice Bledsoe handed her a narrative on the afternoon she appeared before the grand jury. She thought she would have a chance to talk to Bledsoe before testifying, but that didn't happen.

Bledsoe could not be reached to comment.

Taylor wrote in her notes that she believed some portions of the narrative were misleading, likening the situation to telling grand jurors that investigators had shown a witness a photo lineup but not telling them that the witness failed to pick out a suspect. She didn't specify what evidence she felt was misrepresented.

When members of the grand jury began to ask questions about the case, Taylor wrote, prosecutors intervened and answered from their perspective.

"It was at this time that I realized that she did not intend for me to answer any questions because all of my answers would obviously conflict with what I had just read to them," Taylor wrote.

Taylor noted that she told the grand jury she was only reading the statement and that this was not her investigation.

A grand jury is made up of citizens who decide whether to indict someone suspected of a crime, and the burden of proof is lower than what's needed to secure a conviction in court.

In most cases, the state's attorney's office chooses an uninvolved officer to present the case to the grand jury by reading from charging documents prepared by police, according to former Baltimore homicide detective Joshua Ellsworth, who is not involved in the Gray case.

"I have never heard of the [state's attorney's office] providing an investigator with a prepared statement," said Ellsworth, who is now an associate instructor at Indiana University's department of criminal justice.

In homicide cases, Ellsworth said, the process is far more intensive, with detectives and prosecutors working together to present their case. He said members of the grand jury would often pepper him with questions, with some skeptical of the case and others wondering why authorities weren't seeking more charges.

"The grand jury is a great place to explain the totality of the facts you know, warts and all, and their questions will help you fill in what reasonable people will ask" when the case goes to trial, he said.

Police and prosecutors may differ on their theory of the case, he said, but detectives are there to answer questions in an unbiased manner. He said it's the responsibility of prosecutors to take those facts and "come to some sort of conclusion about whether to seek charges."

Robert Bonsib, a former state and federal prosecutor who has extensive experience with grand juries, said there is "no standard answer" for how witnesses should be handled by prosecutors. He said prosecutors often meet with witnesses before they appear in grand jury proceedings to discuss how they plan to convey what they know and how to handle certain questions.

But Bonsib, who is not involved in the Gray case, said prosecutors should tread carefully.

"Clearly a prosecutor isn't supposed to tell a witness what to say, in the sense of saying anything that isn't true or accurate or a product of their own knowledge," he said.

Taylor's notes indicate that she had concerns about prosecutors early on. She complained that in meetings before charges were brought, "it was clear that [Bledsoe] did not need to listen to any of the evidence as she had made up her mind to charge these officers."

The Sun, which was given exclusive access by the Police Department to observe its investigation last spring, reported that police believed unanswered questions remained in the case when they were caught off-guard by the prosecutors' decision to charge.

The day after the Police Department turned over its preliminary investigative findings to prosecutors, Mosby announced the charges against the officers.

The medical examiner had ruled Gray's death a homicide, and prosecutors alleged that officers disregarded their duty to keep Gray safe by failing to secure him with a seat belt and seek prompt medical attention after he was injured.

Goodson faced the most serious charges. Prosecutors said he deliberately drove the van in a reckless manner, causing Gray's injuries. Williams said he found no evidence of a so-called "rough ride."

So far, Goodson and Officer Edward Nero have been acquitted after bench trials, while jurors deadlocked on charges against Officer William Porter. In a rebuke of the state's case, Williams said Thursday that prosecutors were asking him to make assumptions and lacked evidence for their conclusions.

Taylor's notes became an issue in Goodson's trial because she wrote in them that the medical examiner had told police that Gray's death was an accident — a claim that the medical examiner disputed on the stand.

When Taylor took the stand, Schatzow questioned whether she wrote the notes only after her falling-out with prosecutors. He then asked her to confirm that she was removed from the Gray investigative team upon his request.

She said that never happened. "You made the request, but you don't have the authority to remove me."

According to her case notes, Taylor ceased contact with the state's attorney's office in August. But she said on the stand that police commanders kept her on as the lead investigator in the case.

Baltimore Sun reporter Kevin Rector contributed to this article.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...r-grand-jury-freddie-gray-20160625-story.html

So the prosecutor whom you are claiming got them off lied to the grand jury get them indicted in the first place.........care to reconcile that? They already got her three times withholding evidence from the defense, whom you are claiming she was trying to help.
You got a lot of round pegs to fit in those square holes.

Hence no that aren't guilty, he died as a result of his own misadventure.

 

The prosecution you are claiming present only the police evidence handed the lead detective their own typed narrative full of misrepresentations of the police evidence and the evidence they claimed to have developed.

Yes they did when they discovered he was injured which occurred just before the last stop NOT as the prosecutor tried to claim during the second or third stop. And THEY didn't break his spine, it happendd because of his own misadventure.

They have won it three times.

Specious he wasn't sitting in a car.

 

I dont care about THIS case...
My point is that in OTHER case she works WITH the police.
My point is that AFTER this, she works WITH the police.
Hence... she is aligned WITH the police.


How often do I need to repeat this before this sinks in?

 

That is totally impossible to do.

Kangaroo court.

Oh he wasn't in the car?
That's new.

 

Nope it happened, he stood up in a moving vehicle while his hands were bound behind him and his feet were bound. He then fell hitting his head most likely on the bench breaking his neck in the fall.

Well respected judge who went after police abuse as a prosecutor. Your baseless smear of him notwithstanding.

He was in a van, a paddy wagon, that is not new. Get up to speed if you are going to come here and debate it.

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Then go away and stop posting your foolish nonsense.

And your baseless conjecture carries no weight.

As far as I'm concerned I hope you stop repeating your specious nonsense and baseless conjecture.

 

Except that is impossible, so say the experts.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...t-break-your-own-spine-like-freddie-gray.html

Just like any other kangaroo court at the moment.

It is factual correct that in all other cases she gets her things handed over by the police and works with her friends in the force to get others convicted. That is were her loyalty lies.

 

Actually your link says that is how it happened
"The other way, more pertinent to Gray’s case, is by trauma, where the bones are fractured and the ligaments are torn as a result of force or impact."

When he fell there was the force of impact. There is no claim he did it in purpose, that is a strawman. It was caused by his own misadventure.

Your highly subjective and unsupported attack on the fort does not refute the facts.

She has shown not a scintilla of friendship nor loyalty to the police and in fact the relationship is quite contentious as I have shown. Suppositions and conjecture do not substitute for evidence.

 

Of course it happens as a result of force or impact, since it can't happen magically on itself
But it doesn't say he did it by himself at all, not even with what you quote. In fact the source says:

But if Freddie Gray was trying to break his own spinal cord in the back of a van, according to experts in spinal trauma injuries, it might be the first self-inflicted injury of its kind. “I have never seen it before. I’ve never seen somebody self-inflict a spinal cord injury in that way,”


So what I say is founded by experts. And you're making it up.

The fact is that the city accepts they are guilty. Guilty by a heck of a lot, considering the amount of money they are going to pay. It is a joke of a court that nobody is personally responsible. Them are the facts.

None the less she works with her friends of the police all the time to fight crime.