Free Birth Control access can reduce Abortion Rate by More Than Half

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  1. Junior_Beauchamp

    Junior_Beauchamp New Member

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    They already have free contraception. A tablet of asperin.

    Here is how a judge in a paternity case I was a juror for, said it works.

    "Young lady, put that tablet between your knees and keep it there."
     
  2. Dave1mo

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    Pathetically misogynistic.
     
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    Fetus start at around 8 weeks of conception. They can and do survive out of the womb as early as six months. According to you up until the baby is actually outside of the womb it isn't an actual baby which just an idiotic argument to make. Science is passing you by and you are stuck in the stone ages. Thankfully public opinion is starting to also shift as well.

    Where do you get the asinine idea that I don't have any sympathy for the kids of minimum wage people..........I said I don't have any sympathy for the people that are still making minimum wage unless they are in particular categories like students or part timers. I don't expect much in regards to reading comprehension from someone like you but try and keep up OK. By your logic (once again addled and at the level of a 2nd grader) if I said something like "I have zero sympathy for murderes" I guess that you probably would just assume that I meant their kids as well since you reading comprehension is so pathetically low.......but then again this is you so I don't expect much.

    Anecdotes are evidence because of a group of people can show that something can be done then there is no longer any excuse for the rest of the people to not be able to do it. I have seen for myself people on shoe string budgets raise multiple kids just fine. They just coupon clip and do without some things. I would wager than most people know people that are not making alot of money but manage to raise multiple kids in fact.
     
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    1) Most people don't take issue with banning abortions after the second trimester, so I'm not sure where you're going with that one. You're comparing a recently fertilized egg to executing a petty criminal; I'm the one making "idiotic" arguments though?

    2) You said people should be able to make enough money to support their kids...then said "oh, unless they make minimum wage. I'm going to dismiss those people for no logical reason."

    3) Anecdotes are not evidence because they can't be proven. If you want to call them "evidence," they're clearly the most weak form of evidence possible, especially on a message board.
     
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    No you claimed that I didn't have any sympathy for children of people making minimum wage. "It doesn't surprise me that you're pathetic enough to have no sympathy for the children of people making minimum wage"

    You didn't say fetus you said children. I made the comparison of murderers because children are children no matter who has them. I have no sympathy for people making minimum wage who aren't students or part timers just as I have no sympathy for murderers but according to you that means that I have no sympathy for their children as well. Let's go one step further. I have no sympathy for dead beat dads that must mean in your mind that I have no sympathy for their kids as well. You have clearly demonstrated that you are not intellectually capable of dissecting and comprehending even the simplest of arguments. I suggest that you go take a remedial english or communications course and catch up and then come back when you can keep up with the grown ups.
     
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    No, it works. Common sense tells anyone with any that.
     
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    More ridiculous..."conservatives want to take away birth control" BS. Yawn. This is such a pathetic Lie. You do realize that you can get it at walmart for like 5 bucks right? And that every clinic and planned parenthood gives it away for free. Every conservative I know says...the more contraceptives the better, the more you can avoid unwanted pregnancies the better. So, this is such hype by the liberal idiots that all it does is give people a good chuckle.
     
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    Actually what Bristol demostrated was that when abstinence is not used it functions no better than any other birth control method when not used.
     
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    Funny how you chose to address it with absolutely no reference to the role men play in pregnancy. You're pathetic.
     
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    It's shown that abstinence-only education is not effective because it ignores the biological need to have sex; even the most conservative and anti-premarital sex family can't instill enough "control" in their offspring to avoid becoming an unwed mother, which simply illustrates the importance of comprehensive contraception education.
     
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    Maybe we could if we'd actually try. And if there were actually still negative incentives for young men who knocked up young women. Frankly assuming that young men and women are just mindless sex toys and that givng them birth control devices will solve all the problems with under age sex is at best absurd and at worst delusional.

    It might help too if half the adults in there lives weren't worshiping at the altar of sexual gratification on a daily basis as if that were the only important thing in there lives.
     
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    You're the guy trying to give grammar lessons on the other thread, right?

    Hilarious.
     
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    And supposedly the government doesn't pay for abortions, but the liberals want the government or someone to pay for BC?
     
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    Let's cut through the bull(*)(*)(*)(*), leftists
    If "free" birth control cuts abortions by half, paying people to use birth control would surely be better, right?

    (an extention of Milton Friedman's "why not use spoons" comment)
     
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    Really a stupid point. 1. You're arguing Americans endure further injustice n return for fewer abortions. 2. Illegalizing abortion will lead to fewer abortions. Not saying thats optimal, but if youre trying to criticize those who are prolife and oppose free bc, your point is moot.
     
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    Ironically, birth control is actually more evil than abortion.
     
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    When you can get birth control for $9 a month a Wal-mart who doesn't have access? Also Walgreens, Rite-Aid, Target, and free at a host of clinics.
     
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    On the other hand abstinence has a 100% guarantee of not producing any unwanted babies.

    Who needs to read whatever (*)(*)(*)(*) was between the op's post and this post it's all meaningless.
     
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    Is a condom or BC pill more effective if it is free?
     
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    how utterly absurd

    birth control pills work by CAUSING abortion

    b4 the baby can implant in the uterine lining
     
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    The point with the religious right, isn't that you'd have less abortions, they'd be mad that there could be more recreational sex with no consequences! lmfao :roflol:
     
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    Here's a prime example, it's not stopping the pregnancy that they want, they don't want anybody to be HAVING FUN by havng sex.
     
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    "Free" food would drastically reduce the number of Americans going hungry.
    "Free" housing would drastically reduce the number of homeless.
    "Free" electricity would drastically reduce the number of Americans who are too hot, too cold, or reading by flash light.


    To what end, socioeconomic collectivism?
     
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    What about if people want to have sex because it FEELS SO DAMN GOOD? If there's a way to do it with no consequences, even if you don't like it, why do you feel the need to keep others from enjoying fornication that has nothing to do with you?
     
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    40.7% of Babies Born to Unmarried Women

    ... Of course, American culture discourages marriage doesn't it? I like marriage, but most people you ask have nothing good to say about it and most would prefer a "fulfilling career" to a family. I'm male, but my family is super fulfilling to me and my job, not so much, I view it primarilly as something to finance my family, rather than something to live for. How often do you hear anyone advising young people anymore to "find someone and settle down"... you don't, most people today would laugh at that, when say 40-50 years ago it was a primary goal of almost everybody. That's why it's harder to find someone to marry now, it's practically engrained in many young people that it isn't a priority in life to get married likr it was back in the day.
     

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