'Freedom' for Libya - but not for Britain

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by DinoDino, Oct 15, 2011.

  1. DinoDino

    DinoDino Active Member

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    In the Capitalist fascist dystopia of the UK the Police have been attacking anti economic-Nazism protesters:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15324901

    Britain is ruled by Satanic monsters who would kill a billion to protect their wretched wealth.

    DEATH TO NEO-CAPITALISM
     
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    So what is it you are advocating instead of "neo-capitalism?"
     
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    Moderate socialism coupled with a return to the sanctity of the sovereign nation state. Economic Nazism is not the answer.
     
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    How do you define "moderate socialism?"


    Could you elaborate upon this, as well?
     
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    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that what Nick Griffin is called these days?
     
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    He probably means this bull (*)(*)(*)(*).

    IOW, Bastard Capitalism
     
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    "coupled with a return to the sanctity of the sovereign nation state."

    I want this to, and for me it means that UK courts cannot be overuled by foreign courts, particularly the European Courts of Justice and the European Court of Human Rights.
     
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    Why is this? I understand that there is a hierarchy between courts within village districts, then counties, then cities/states, then supreme courts, and it goes on, the next level up is the start of the international courts. For example the international war crime courts declare their jurisdictions over every country, including the UK. How is it a good idea to place a hierarchy limit over a court system? Wouldn't it work against you if it gets "hijacked" by a narrow circle of power and then you can't appeal to an even higher court?
     
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    How does a nation state have a sanctity? By starting wars and socially engineering its neighboring nation states? I guess that you Europeans did not have enough with the ww1-ww2-Bosnia-Kosovo games. I think the right policy to work with European establishents is to throw red meat at them and then watch the "consequences" with popcorn. Your religious belief in your nationality is very nice when it reduces Europe's overpopulation that created that belief in the 1st place (using violance).
     
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    Why not state by voting for a party who state......we will fully investigate and prosecute all previous governments MP's bankers CEO's for any wrong doing.

    We will fully investigate the British banks who have been previously caught for money laundering and use existing legislation to penalise those who profited from corrupt practices regardless where they now live.

    We will prosecute all corrupt politicians who have exceeded there legal powers and pass all those guilty of crimes against humanity to the International courts at the Hague! Regardless of who they are and title or not that they hold, all shall be equal in the eyes of the law!

    There is no need for further legislation...only those willing to implement the current legislation for the benefit of the home nations!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    I presume you were speaking generally because there are no village courts in the UK, but our courts are British and are therefore far better placed to stand in judgement over crimes committed here than any European court is. The European Court of Justice rules as to whatever deepens European integration and it takes every opportunity to extend its reach, having started with quite a limited role. It decided before the UK joined that its ultimate rationale was to enable "the community interests enshrined in the Treaty of Rome to prevail over the inertia of the member states". Obviously as a eurosceptic I profoundly disagree with its holding power over what happens in the UK. And the European Court of Human Rights is a highly political court that is widely derided in the UK, even by our own prime minister, who will nevertheless do nothing to stop it rulings on the UK.

    I'm not sure which international war crimes courts you mean, but the UK government willingly accepted the ICC's jurisdiction (and not every country does). As far as that goes, if it sticks to trials for crimes against humanity and genocide I have no problem with it. Unfortunately, I think it too will try to extend its reach.
     
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    So, am I not the only one who thinks that these war crime trials are rather political than anything else? I think that the war crime trials were invented to exploit people's moral backgrounds for the benefit of a select few power circles, such as the ww2 entente. Proof: you will never see an American defendent there, ever, for example.
     
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    Uncle Ferd wantin' to know if dat Generalissimo Francisco Franco still dead?...
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    Gadhafi killed, Libya's interim leader says
    Thu October 20, 2011 - Gadhafi's son, Mutassim, and his chief of intelligence, Abdullah al-Senussi, were also killed; Al-Jazeera airs a cell phone video apparently of Moammar Gadhafi's corpse; Reports of Gadhafi's capture, death could not be independently verified; Earlier, National Transitional Council fighters said they had taken control of Sirte
     

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