Freedom of Speech? Or respect for Islam?

I can't believe I'm even asking this question, but which is more important?

Freedom of speech for people to say what they wish, which includes making films that insult Islam? Or being 'Respectful' of Islam and banning any speech that deems Islam as bad?

 

Here's another thought to ponder: Is every aspect of Islam and/or muslim culture deserving of respect?
Since Islam is often as much as a political-social ideology as it is a religious one, should all other political ideologies (Communism, Nazism for example) be due the same respect?

 

Other=both

 

Freedom of Speech!

The USA is not ruled by Sharia law. I fiercely support the separation of Church and State. I do not want ANY religion to have undo influence on the Government directly or indirectly... period!

I can think of several movies that have offended Christians over the years... and so far no Christians have burned down Diplomatic Missions and killed the Ambassador.

If some in Islam cannot come to understand that in a Free Society people get to practice Freedom of Speech... well that just sucks for them! I abide to the laws of the Country I am in at any given time. I was born in the USA, have visited Mexico and Japan and am now living in Canada... and in all these Countries I obey the laws and respect the society that I am in.

 

Both works for me...

 

Appeasement is the solution, that is the doctrine of the Obama administration, liberals are dovish and if that means castrating freedom of speech, to avoid violence and putting diplomats and troops in danger then so be it.

It this day and age, free speech is often abused, its not used morally as it was meant to be, like speaking out against tyrannical government etc..

 

If we are talking legally, then the answer is without hesitation, freedom of speech. The First Amendment is so important to America. It is woven into our conscience. Cultures that don't have freedom of speech really have a hard time understanding what it means to us. I believe that freedom is speech is the bedrock on which all other rights rest.

However, just because you can do something legally, doesn't mean you should.

 

freedom of speech OR do not put Americans lives in danger in a theater by yelling "FIRE!"

why do republicans think freedom of speech means freedom from criticism?

I voted "Other"


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When did Freedom of Speech and Respect For Islam become incompatible with each other?

And why do people talk about Islam like it is an individual? So often I see, "Islam does this", or "Islam says this", or something that speaks of Islam as a person or individual who is capable of interacting with other people.

It isn't.

It's a religious belief compromising nearly 2 billion individuals from dozens of different cultures and walks of life.

Islam is not protesting, is not killing, is not doing anything. People are doing it. Yes, human beings protest for many things, and kill for many - if any - reasons they seem to feel is appropriate.

It's sad how people are abusing their rights for wrong reasons.

And if you think these protests are just because of this video, do me a favour. Go to Youtube and search for anti-Islamic videos. You will find hundreds, ranging in level of offensiveness (is that a word?). Where are the protests for all of these videos?

And if you think the American diplomats were killed because of the movie, answer me this: Why haven't other diplomats in the other countries been killed yet? And why is al-Qaida calling for the death of more diplomats across the region?

I might have gone off topic, just had a lot going through my head as I was typing this...

 

Federal officials question California man linked to anti-Islam film...

Calif. Filmmaker: I Won't Return to Besieged Home
September 15, 2012 (AP) - A Southern California filmmaker linked to an anti-Islamic movie inflaming protests across the Middle East was interviewed Saturday at a Los Angeles sheriff's station and afterward decided not to return to his home — possibly heading into hiding, authorities said.

 

There's something of a difference... We allow people to run according to their political ideologies. In my home state (Washington) we have some pretty odd parties - The Rainbow Party, The Legalize Marijuana Party, I think last year or 2008 we had a Communist, we've surely had a Socialist or two, there was one "Arab" Party or somethingorother, etc. More than that, Nazis are allowed to march and demonstrate in places like Chicago.

But in our country, we are more used to political and religious differences. Here, if a Christian decides to marry an atheist, or a Muslim marry a Christian, its not really a taboo. Its not uncommon to have a Baptist church and a Methodist church side by side, or a Catholic church and a Calvinist church on the same block. And we're used to people challenging the religion of Christianity. In Egypt, and the Middle East - they're not so used to it. They react somewhat more like we would've 300 years ago.

 

Respect for Islam is easily applied to the individual but impossible to apply to all citizens of a Country... especially a free Country like the USA or Canada. The person who made this film does not respect Islam nor does he represent the USA and all of its people. You cannot make all Americans respect Islam anymore than you can make all Libyans respect America or Christianity. Respect is a matter of personal choice, perspective, and is by its nature subjective and wide open to interpretation.

 

Both. I can disagree with something someone says, but I can still respect them for their beliefs.

 

Good thread.
I laughed when I read the question because there AIN'T NO FREAKING WAY we're going to let respect for the political system of a pedophile (Sharia Law) be prioritized over our Constitutional right to free speech. Movies, cartoons of Mohammad, naming a teddy bear after Mohammad, they will NOT shut down our right to criticize their 7th century cult. I love Muslims, and hope they come into the 21st century.

 

Always vote "freedom" (writes Freedomseeker, surprisingly)

You are comparing apples to Oranges! If "Fire!" is a LIE then you can't compare that to this film, which tells the TRUTH about Mohammad.

This link shows that Islamically they are JUSTIFIED in trying to kill the film producer, which is what they are clearly rioting/calling for: http://www.webcitation.org/query?ur...M/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm&date=2012-08-25

 

But if you had to pick just one, which would it be? I realize you have an incredibly hard time making decisions of a moral nature, at least I get that from the online discussion we had a few days back.

 

When I have to make that choice I will. Until then, my orginal answer stands.

 

My gut feeling is that Panzer is probably leaning towards "freedom of speech" here (just call it a hunch.)

 

I'll say one thing for you, you're CONSISTENT!
You can't take a moral stand, but at least you're consistent. Have you ever taken a moral stand in your entire lifetime (or would that be "judging", which is a no-no)?
In a previous post I asked if you could condemn the NAZIS, and you couldn't even make that moral decision. Look, you're entitled to your opinion, I just think that sometimes we have to stand up for what's right, and destroying Sharia Law is clearly what's right.

 

I believe I told you to knock off the Nazi comparsion, then add a dew steps and you didn't respond. But it's quite clear that you're not in any postion to be making these calls, and neither am I. I prefer to deal with things I can change, not things that will never happen.

 

Islam has no political election system and mass media (to reach the masses), while 'nazism' (it was imperialism caused by tyrants) had, it was caused via elections (they took the votes of the people via slick politics and propaganda (and mind control as well, the red-white-black flags and banners, and strong symbolism and political rethoric) and created nazi Germany. Islam has nothing to do with tyranny.
You are free to start believing in any religion, while tyranny creeps into our lives via politics and television and by using false flags. Tyrants/rulers try to blame a religion (9/11) and use it in their advantage (false flags, police state, fear mongering, a take over via elections)

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) pisslam, (*)(*)(*)(*) allah (satan) and (*)(*)(*)(*) mohomo ((*)(*)(*)(*) be upon him)

Tell me one good thing about pisslam, come on name one.
pisslam is evil and deserves no respect at all.

And anyone that still thinks ovomit is a Christian is dumber than dirt. Oh, and billary is a commie crook that should be dropped naked into any pisslamic (*)(*)(*)(*) hole with no money, no phone and no id. Tattoo a giant Star of David on her fat,stupid commie ass and let's see if she still shills for koranimals.

 

Sigh. This is what I mean. The (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mosques are their campaign headquarters. They get their marching orders every (*)(*)(*)(*) Friday from the *******s with the dent in their foreheads. pisslam worked together with the nazis to kill Jews, did you know that?

 

It is absolutely essential that the West stands up for its fundamental values, including freedom of speech and freedom of thought.