French clergy sexually abused over 200,000 children since 1950, report finds

Its absolutely not that I don't believe the facts as established. I do!. Its that I think what's happened is that human nature means the boys don't talk, and nobody wants look at the signs. Parents tend not to want to think about Uncle Joe, or their dear brother Steve, or that great mentor/ baseball coach either. Its no different with Priests and nuns. These are people that they work with every day, dear dear friends, and colleagues about which they hear some whispers. Then this goes into a bureaucratic internal investigation where the investigators identify more closely with the accused, than the victims and decide that privacy in the investigation protects both the victims, the accused, and the faith, ( it also protects the 'brand' and its reputation which protects money, power and authority) This is the way scandals have been handled by the Vatican and the Catholic arch diesis for centuries and that system has worked perfectly, right?

Its about human nature and the institutional nature of bloated and archaic systems inside systems designed to protect the institution from all threats. Its not really about organized religion per se except insofar as we have some very very very old and very very very big bureaucracies in the main faiths and no real reform that cracks all the way through. .

 

Since 1960 is 51 years and it's probably more, that's not recent.. The libertine clergy is a famous figure throughout history

 

many of them were girls, does that mean heterosexuals are to blame?

 

But, of course!

The Imperial Roman Catholic Church is the oldest existing terrorist organization as well as the longest running/existing terrorist State.

The Reign of Terror began in 533 CE when Emperor Justinian of the Eastern Roman (Byzantine) Empire anointed John, the Bishop of Rome, as the first pope and gave him the authority to persecute heretics.

Pope John promptly murdered several dozen bishops of churches in what is now Italy, Greece and Turkey because they wouldn't drink his Kool-Aid® in order to consolidate his power. He then made all other bishops and clergy subordinate to him.

All Catholics are, by definition, active/passive terrorists.

 

Why would you blame others for the actions of another?

 

As a recovering Catholic myself, I am furious with the church, particularly the Vatican who played dumb when they knew full well what had been occurring on their watch for decades.

I am mostly angry for all the devout Catholics -- some in my family -- for whom this is a devastating blow to their trust and confidence in this institution that they have been conditioned to follow unquestionably. They glibly call this "faith." Though I don't share their faith, I can share their silent disappointment.

The Catholic Church, esp. The Vatican, is a global criminal pedophile conspiracy. This is a RICO case on a more massive scale than any mafioso could ever imagine. Were they another kind of oraganization, the leadership and the pedos they sheltered in their midst would have been jailed a long time ago. And peronsally I'd pay good money to watch pedo justice meted out in the bighouse...

But due to the special deference this world pays to religion, these sick ****s and their depraved enablers will skate away scot free and enjoy their taxpayer-subsidized retirements.

One can only hope if their faith is true, they get what's coming to them in the afterlife, that can't come soon enough AFAIC.

 

So 70 year old issue and the one Progressive Pope knew about it? interesting take from someone of your persuassion.

 

You left out one big factor and that is $$$. In the Boy Scout fiasco, I can only guess how many people hoped, prayed and even coached their kid on telling the right story.

 

If there was a god, there is no way he would create a being with a strong sex drive, and require celibacy. Let them have wives and deny them unsupervised access to children.

 

Look up the word pedophilia? Why, did the definition change like the definition of racism did?

When it's said that a man raped someone it's automatically assumed the man is straight even if he's not. I have no problem pointing out a man as being straight when a woman is raped. So where is the bias and bigotry? Not liking FACTS is not bias and bigotry. Same sex attractions are homosexual attractions, why is there suddenly a problem with that. They gotta take the good and the bad just like everyone else.

Earlier in the thread someone mentioned cops. Calling a same sex pedophile a homosexual is factual, just like saying the cop who just shot the black guy is white would be factual. The problem is only one of those descriptions will make headlines and the other will be buried for the sake of wokeness. One guy on this board makes a living bringing up bad cops almost daily and he specifically means white cops.

 

Perhaps, but they are virtually the only organization known to man where people will make excuses to defend it or justify it.

They need to be held accountable

 

The definition did no change. It has always meant attraction to younger people. Their are various other words based on the age and development of that younger person.

Medical science and research this agree with your assessment, pedophilia is not an act of a sexuality or homosexuality. It is an act of pedophilia

Are you really complaining about something not making headlines that is literally making headlines – this is literally the thread that you’re in.

The narrative is clear — If a man is married with children and engages only in heterosexual activity except when he rapes a boy you would label him a homosexual pedophile. This doesn’t make logical sense and is a desperate showcase of cognitive dissonance.

 

Terrible!

 

There is another thread with the same topic:

>>>> http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ally-abused-by-french-catholic-clergy.592918/

 

That's definitely an exaggeration, because virtually all organizations have people making plenty of excuses whenever there is an agenda or incentive to find those excuses, but I honestly cannot think of any organisation, including any govt, monarchy, corporation or union that has lasted so many centuries, acquiring so much power, property and money, without any serious accountability as the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church. They have more agenda and more incentive to find those excuses. Now that is true!

 

Don't I remember you were all over Hillary for "running a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor"?

 

Correlation is not a prerequisite for all Causation. When it comes to the Clintons, the two 'cs' did not date before they married.

 

Wow, my comment sure riled up the usual liberal suspects didn't it? At least 5 or 6 of you commented on my post.

The liberals have no problem blaming the "Church" for what individual church members have done, yet the undeniable link between child molesters and homosexuals is somehow non-existent.

Magically, if priests molest boys it is the church's fault because the molesters are part of the church, but homosexuals are blameless even though they are the ones molesting boys.

 

First, argumentum ad hominem: I am not the topic of this thread. Second, I don't know who "5 or 6 of you are." I'm just one person, association fallacy. Third, regardless of how wrong you are regarding my political disposition, your presumptions are irrelevant, not evidence in support of your argument: fallacy of composition. Fourth, you (unsuccsessfully) ducked my simple question. Please answer that before we move on. Thank you.

Red herring: It is well-documented that the church -- institutionally -- acted as both enabler and protector of thousands of known pedophiles in its midst globally and then refused to take responsibility for its reprehensible actions, instead lawyering up and obstructing justice at every turn. Preying upon the most vulnerable who trusted the church is the height of cynical depravity. There's at least a dozen cardinals and arch bishops in the US alone who should be in a deep dark hole.

Composition fallacy.

 

Frankly, it should be prosecuted under RICO. At least in the US. Interpol has similar provisions.

 

Considering organized religion is based on multiple fallacies with no basis in fact, instead requiring its adherents to suspend logic and take it on blond faith, the comment isn't too far off the mark.

The special deference paid to religion in societies across the globe is responsible for more human suffering than just about any other contrivance of man.

 

Profiling and blaming are two different things. And in this case, profiling is probably not going to work either because priests can't be openly homosexual in the first place.

 

I did not see it, and I don't agree with it.

But that is not attacking a group of people. Religion is not a group of people. Though I don't agree with the assessment, religion can be a plague upon the Earth without religious people themselves also being a plague.

Instead, I would call religion a very mixed bag.

 

you nailed it.

 

Seems a fundamental in catholicism from it's inception.

A state created by the pedophile Roman empire seems to be keeping true to it's roots.

I'm betting this goes back to the very beginning.